Should Commitments be binding?

#27
#27
They should have enough people around them (if they choose to listen) to help discern facts from hype. Between 8-10 coaches, 8-10 teachers, 2 (hopefully) parents, usually some uncles/grandparents, you get the idea. Most do, whoever it may be. And its not like a less than perfect fball situation @ Louisiana State Univeristy or another SEC school is the worst situaion the said kid could/ often WOULD be in.
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#28
#28
TideWarrior said:
Actually I agree on two things here. Once a kid is offered they are offered. This conditional offer crap is just that. Basically leading a kid on hoping someone higher on the board commits first.
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You'd still have coaches just stop recruiting the unwanteds, or explain to them that they now have several guys better and thus you'll never see playing time, etc. Coaches would find ways around that.
 
#29
#29
I think the way it is is fine except for a couple of things.

1. I want to see a early signing period, as Eric has said. However, I do want there to be one little catch to the early signing period, and #2 will address this.

2. If a coach leaves the school, the kids should be able to decide whether they want to void the LOI they just signed, if they signed during the early signing period.

Those are the only two things I can add. I like most of the ideas thrown around in here.
 
#30
#30
I am thinking UT would not of had as strong of classes the past two years if the rules were based off of your logic Eric. I do see your point but making it too strict hurts a team like us that's unproven and has to recruit nationally. Because kids make irrational decisions before weighing all of their options and going on their visits.
 
#31
#31
nickknx865 said:
2. If a coach leaves the school, the kids should be able to decide whether they want to void the LOI they just signed, if they signed during the early signing period.
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Any coach? Head coach? Coach that recruited you? Position coach? What if your coach pulls an Urban Meyer fake retirement move? Or makes some announcement about not wanting to come back after his contract runs out in 2 years?
 
#32
#32
nickknx865 said:
I think the way it is is fine except for a couple of things.

1. I want to see a early signing period, as Eric has said. However, I do want there to be one little catch to the early signing period, and #2 will address this.

2. If a coach leaves the school, the kids should be able to decide whether they want to void the LOI they just signed, if they signed during the early signing period.

Those are the only two things I can add. I like most of the ideas thrown around in here.
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I agree, but it should be a case by case basis, and we should allow them to officially visit, even if they already have.
 
#33
#33
We have a binding action already; the LOI. Get them to sign it earlier, I'm in. Other than that, its all a product of the net, rivals,scout, and US. If you can't hang on till FEB 3, your gonna drive yourself crazy.
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#36
#36
kptvol said:
Any coach? Head coach? Coach that recruited you? Position coach? What if your coach pulls an Urban Meyer fake retirement move? Or makes some announcement about not wanting to come back after his contract runs out in 2 years?
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Head coach...
 
#38
#38
It would have to be HC. Anything else would create a dumpster fire of the transfer appeals office.
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#41
#41
No commitments until NSD. That way no fans will get their feelings hurt and kids can make all their visits and take their time to make an informed decision.
 
#42
#42
It sounds to me like the problem isn't the commitments of these kids, but what some are led to believe the commitment means. Obviously a commitment is more than just 'a leader,' but there's no reason to think of it as set in stone unless they sign.

I'm open to more discussion for an early signing period, though that was probably hurt us more than help us considering our in-state talent.
 
#44
#44
kptvol said:
Meh. If you're QB Justin Worley and commit to UT and Jim Chaney takes a head coaching position somewhere else and is replaced by Randy Sanders, you've been screwed. Hard.
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That's a fair point. Not really sure. Haven't thought about this too in-depth just yet.
 
#46
#46
nickknx865 said:
That's a fair point. Not really sure. Haven't thought about this too in-depth just yet.
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To me there are just too many variables and kids are naturally too indecisive. With a decision this important they should be given as much time and leniency as needed.
 
#47
#47
kptvol said:
Meh. If you're QB Justin Worley and commit to UT and Jim Chaney takes a head coaching position somewhere else and is replaced by Randy Sanders, you've been screwed. Hard.
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It's not perfect, but at least a change of head coach would take care of some of the problem. Are you arguing that there should be less regulation on transfers or getting out of your LOI?
 
#48
#48
nickknx865 said:
That's not a bad idea.
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:hi: It's just the first thing that came to mind. Do away with verbals altogether. Let kids name their leaders all throughout the recruiting process but the only time a recruit commits is NSD when they have to sign the papers.
 
#49
#49
lylsmorr said:
No commitments until NSD. That way no fans will get their feelings hurt and kids can make all their visits and take their time to make an informed decision.
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and then it would be absolute chaos. players wouldn't know where to go cuz they don't know where everyone is going. coaches don't know who to take cuz they don't know who they may be getting.

my recommendation is that if you really get so tore up about a 17 year old kid changing his mind over the course of a year, then don't follow recruiting. simple as that.

"can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen."
 
#50
#50
tvolsfan said:
It's not perfect, but at least a change of head coach would take care of some of the problem. Are you arguing that there should be less regulation on transfers or getting out of your LOI?
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Transfers I can kind of see the problem. The University has already sort of invested in you. LOI's should be relinquished if there's a staff shakeup.
 
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