Should Heupel have pushed to cover up Hooker’s injury?

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volfan_28 said:
If Hooker being out played a role in the rankings, should we have downplayed the injury and not given any specifics until after final CFP rankings? Could have just said “it’s a knee injury. We hope to get him back for post-season”. And left it at that.
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Yes. Yes. And yes.
 
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LittleVol said:
No.

No because we still would have had to play with Joe Milton.

So you want Tennessee vs Ohio State with Joe Milton QB?

Or Clemson, North Carolina, Tulane with Joe Milton at QB?

No.
A THOUSANDS TIMES NO...
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Yes. We play to win championships. and we want to be one of the handful of programs that's been in the playoffs.
 
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Im gonna say yes, in hindsight he should have just said knee injury and its hopeful he will be back for the playoff, its just playing the game, they all do it, Its no worse than telling the media someone is a gametime decision so the other team will have to prepare for him and with they weight the committee claims they put on Hooker being out it very well could have swayed the decision making if they thought he could be available.
 
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Vanhalo said:
There was no hiding that injury.
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He was walking around on the sideline like nothing was wrong a few days ago.

Just this year there have been multiple guys writhing in pain on the field like they’ve been mortally wounded, only to come back and play later in the same game.
 
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Flipping through the Butch Jones handbook:

If you clearly continue playing a guy with a concussion, you call it a lower body injury....if a punch breaks an orbital bone it's tripping over a helmet....nothing in here about a blown knee, so I guess you just tell the truth on that one.
 
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It probably wouldn't have mattered and this is the only scenario I can think of where you might keep it under wraps for another week but I cant see what it would have hurt to sit on it another week, like I said earlier its no different than the games they played with Bryce Young this year when he was injured and they would never say for sure if he was playing or not until you saw him run out on the field.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
The biggest factor isn't the Hooker injury, it's losing to a team we should've beaten into chicken nuggets and giving up 63 points to an offense rated well out of the top 25.

We didn't do our job as a team and to suggest we play tricks with injuries to try to get in the CFP is as weak as it gets.

WE BLEW IT AGAINST SOUTH CAROLINA!

Stop looking for "backdoors" and BS theories that the CFP Committee hates us and man up to the fact that we had it...... and we didn't finish.
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Of course we should have beat USCe. I've seen this argument a lot and haven't seen many people push back on it. But WTH are you talking about "backdoors"?

Did we do enough to be considered for the playoffs? No. But that's not why people are upset. We accomplished more than Alabama did and yet they are still ranked higher than us. And it's not just our fanbase that's confused. Everyone from RJ Young to Dan Mullen and dozens of others in the national media agree. We were snubbed in the rankings. Everyone knows it. I have no intention of letting the committee off the hook easy.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
You a Bama fan, boy? This is Tennessee, not those lying, cheating, not really caring about players once their usefulness is gone, Alabamans, boy! We don't mind playing in a sandbox, but we don't play at the bottom of an outhouse. Got it?
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Haha, yes sir. I got it. It won't happen again sir.
 
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volfan_28 said:
Of course we should have beat USCe. I've seen this argument a lot and haven't seen many people push back on it. But WTH are you talking about "backdoors"?

Did we do enough to be considered for the playoffs? No. But that's not why people are upset. We accomplished more than Alabama did and yet they are still ranked higher than us. And it's not just our fanbase that's confused. Everyone from RJ Young to Dan Mullen and dozens of others in the national media agree. We were snubbed in the rankings. Everyone knows it. I have no intention of letting the committee off the hook easy.
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Let's look at it from a business perspective.

You have an employee who has performed well, often at the very top of production, for the last several years.

You have another employee who has performed inconsistently over the last several years but has done really well recently.

When you're ranking those employees, who gets the favorable eye from you?
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Let's look at it from a business perspective.

You have an employee who has performed well, often at the very top of production, for the last several years.

You have another employee who has performed inconsistently over the last several years but has done really well recently.

When you're ranking those employees, who gets the favorable eye from you?
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If I'm awarding yearly bonuses I award the largest share to the employee who performed best that year.
 
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volfan_28 said:
If I'm awarding yearly bonuses I award the largest share to the employee who performed best that year.
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I'm not arguing that it's fair, life isn't fair, but I'm arguing that consistency gives you the benefit of the doubt when things are close. That's how humans behave.

Alabama has been consistent, often golden (actually cut glass,) in college football.

Asking humans not to be human doesn't give good results.
 
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volfan_28 said:
If Hooker being out played a role in the rankings, should we have downplayed the injury and not given any specifics until after final CFP rankings? Could have just said “it’s a knee injury. We hope to get him back for post-season”. And left it at that.
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No
 
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volfan_28 said:
If Hooker being out played a role in the rankings, should we have downplayed the injury and not given any specifics until after final CFP rankings? Could have just said “it’s a knee injury. We hope to get him back for post-season”. And left it at that.
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NO!!!!!!
 
#46
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I guarantee if Saban thought not disclosing a injury would get him in the playoffs he wouldn’t disclose it. He isn’t the only one. And this is exactly why it should never factor in a decision. Next man up, let the field of play dictate who makes it and who doesn’t. Not how a injury may impact or heaven forbid a coach have impact which they in the wording as well. Players step up, teams step up and they shouldn’t be penalized as a team if they have earned the right to their spot. Maybe they will get killed maybe the won’t that’s beside the point. They had earned their spot.
 
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volfan_28 said:
If Hooker being out played a role in the rankings, should we have downplayed the injury and not given any specifics until after final CFP rankings? Could have just said “it’s a knee injury. We hope to get him back for post-season”. And left it at that.
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Geez
 
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#50
I don’t think CJH’s integrity would allow that. He’s not like any of those ding dongs we had at the helm for the last 10 years.
 
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