Should Heupel rotate QBs Spurrier style?

#51
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Hooker is completing nearly 70% of his passes and has 8 total TDs this year while essentially only playing 2 full games (and is still averaging 281 yards per game). I'm pretty sure he's fine. He's been high on a couple passes early in games, but so far has always settled down and been phenomenal.

In short, no.
 
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BigOrangePaddy said:
That's debatable imo but the fact remains that Hendon is consistently over throwing the ball every time. I'm amazed his stats look as good as they do because the eye test tells me he is off big time this year. It just shows you how good that he can really be when he is fully dialed in.
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Its not every time. He's missed a few throws here and there, but every QB does. He's been lights out for the most part.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Some of our fans are really, really not intelligent.
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You think that's bad? Ha ha, the real problem is that that like so many in society today, they're dumb by choice, you know, not wanting to be intelligent. You see the evidence daily on local and national news.
 
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NO, just No, just plain No, just plain ol' No, just plain ol' HELL NO

Trying to rotate QBs in this offense, with this pace, is a sure fire way to kill any kind of rhythm.
 
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BigOrangePaddy said:
What's wrong with rotating them if one is off? QB position is highly mental and emotional based and these guys are still all relatively young kids out there. Hendon is older than your typical student athlete though to his credit. Let's see how he starts off against Florida. Knowing him, he is going to be incredibly nervous. I say open him up with a play action deep route first play of the game to Hyatt or Tilman. If he misses, call a design QB run or two to loosen him up more.
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That's exactly why you don't do this. Hooker's problems this year have been greatly exaggerated, and that's an understatement. I mean, how well does a QB have to play to prevent people from clamoring for the backup? And I'm being serious. Milton has looked great, and I'm thrilled about that. But to even consider that Hooker is being pushed in his role as QB1 is silly.
 
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Shadynasty5 said:
We are 5th in the nation in passing. Hooker’s stats are even better than last year. Hooker threw high all the time last year, he’s just raised the bar on what you expect.

Try to sit back and enjoy it.
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Don’t forget that his TD to INT ratio is like 12-1 since being the starter.
 
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Not gonna lie I noticed it the first game and the high throws have continued. Milton has looked good coming in with zero pressure while we have big leads but that has no bearing on how he would play in a game with pressure on him to make plays.He needs to stay on the bench and can prove himself should HH get injured. What does concern me is with all the QB gurus we have on the staff why this hasn't been corrected becuse at some point these are going to get a WR injured. He's also made a few throws that easily could have been picked off, seems to be deciding where to go with the ball pre snap at times. There have been some throws into the flats that could have easily been a pick six. Don't know what has happened but he looked much better last year than this year to this point,hope it gets back to normal this week.
 
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BigOrangePaddy said:
That's debatable imo but the fact remains that Hendon is consistently over throwing the ball every time. I'm amazed his stats look as good as they do because the eye test tells me he is off big time this year. It just shows you how good that he can really be when he is fully dialed in.
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Ohhhh there’s something definitely off here.
 
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Right….. let’s rotate one of the most efficient QB’s we’ve had in a while because of a couple high throws.

What could go wrong? 🙄
 
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It’s easy to see how fan bases can’t be pleased and coaches get ran as fast as they do when you see takes like this. Sure put him in for a wildcat or two. Maybe even fake a wildcat and go deep. But anything more than a couple of snaps would be idiotic to say the least. Lord help us
 
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BigOrangePaddy said:
Spurrier was the only coach who i saw do it successfully.

I saw this because we have a huge NFL level talent on the bench in Milton who has been hitting his receivers in stride on deep routes like it's nothing so far this year.

Now hear me out please. I'm not saying to start Milton over Hooker..But Hooker has a mental problem with his throwing going on this year. Pretty much every pass is high and that's why Tilman got injured. Even short routes he is throwing it high. That's how we got into a 10-0 hole against Pitt as well.

If Hooker is over throwing recievers to open up against UF and we go a few three and outs, i say rotate Milton in there for a series of two. Hopefully this doesn't happen but i could actually see a QB rotation with these guys working out as they are such close friends in real life.
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I think we previously heard of HH’s mechanics being tweaked preseason and his previous ability to play loose. I think either way he is doing an amazing job but there is certainly room for improvement.

I think there is a different question to be asked of the board instead of the scenario you asked.

If we are in a game and for whatever reason that he is struggling, my scenario would be at what point in a game would Volnation think it is appropriate for Coach to give Milton another shot other than Mop Up?

21 down going into second half? Maybe 14 down going in Q4? Never? Is there a point that people on the board think it would be appropriate to try Milton again or is it ride HH to the end no matter what?
 
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I wouldn't mind seeing both in at the same time. Behind the line pass and pass downfield... Could be interesting.

Go VOLS
 
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BigOrangePaddy said:
Spurrier was the only coach who i saw do it successfully.

I saw this because we have a huge NFL level talent on the bench in Milton who has been hitting his receivers in stride on deep routes like it's nothing so far this year.

Now hear me out please. I'm not saying to start Milton over Hooker..But Hooker has a mental problem with his throwing going on this year. Pretty much every pass is high and that's why Tilman got injured. Even short routes he is throwing it high. That's how we got into a 10-0 hole against Pitt as well.

If Hooker is over throwing recievers to open up against UF and we go a few three and outs, i say rotate Milton in there for a series of two. Hopefully this doesn't happen but i could actually see a QB rotation with these guys working out as they are such close friends in real life.
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Hooker is the starter. Milton is the backup. That is the order. Stick to the order. Rotating QBs fails 99 times out of 100. Diminishes the confidence of both QBs and chemistry with WRs since they don't know who will be throwing them the ball. Guys, it's been working pretty well with Hooker, why would you want to screw that up?
 
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BigOrangePaddy said:
Spurrier was the only coach who i saw do it successfully.

I saw this because we have a huge NFL level talent on the bench in Milton who has been hitting his receivers in stride on deep routes like it's nothing so far this year.

Now hear me out please. I'm not saying to start Milton over Hooker..But Hooker has a mental problem with his throwing going on this year. Pretty much every pass is high and that's why Tilman got injured. Even short routes he is throwing it high. That's how we got into a 10-0 hole against Pitt as well.

If Hooker is over throwing recievers to open up against UF and we go a few three and outs, i say rotate Milton in there for a series of two. Hopefully this doesn't happen but i could actually see a QB rotation with these guys working out as they are such close friends in real life.
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Yeah against MAC teams when the game was already well in hand. I'm glad he's looked good but he had zero pressure in those situations.
 
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BigOrangePaddy said:
Spurrier was the only coach who i saw do it successfully.

I saw this because we have a huge NFL level talent on the bench in Milton who has been hitting his receivers in stride on deep routes like it's nothing so far this year.

Now hear me out please. I'm not saying to start Milton over Hooker..But Hooker has a mental problem with his throwing going on this year. Pretty much every pass is high and that's why Tilman got injured. Even short routes he is throwing it high. That's how we got into a 10-0 hole against Pitt as well.

If Hooker is over throwing recievers to open up against UF and we go a few three and outs, i say rotate Milton in there for a series of two. Hopefully this doesn't happen but i could actually see a QB rotation with these guys working out as they are such close friends in real life.
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I get that Hooker hasn't been quite as crisp. Although he has had a lot of drops that were 100% on the WR as well. Right now UT is 3rd in total O/ and 5th in passing O. He is also tied for 3rd with 6 passing TD's. Why would anyone want to rotate QB's? I feel like I am watching the scene on "Billy Madison" where he just rambles. At no point does it make sense to rotate 2 QB's unless one just doesn't have it. So far that has not been the case.
 
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I really like Joe Milton, and think that he has a much higher ceiling than hooker. That being said Hooker is the guy, until he gets hurt or benched for poor play. While he hasn’t been extremely sharp, Hooker is much better when he gets some designed runs called for him, like in the Pitt game. Sometimes I feel like he doesn’t look as good against inferior competition because the coaches don’t want him taking extra hits he gets from the designed runs. Saturday Heupel will throw the kitchen sink at Florida, and I look for Hooker to have a great game both running and passing.
 
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UT has an experienced heavily tested QB in Hooker. This is a huge advantage. Milton when tested has failed. I consider that a scrimmage game last weekend, zero pressure and the runners 20 yards behind the defense. Yes, he did look sharp, but I would have to see him perform under pressure before even thinking about adding him to the lineup. Doesn't matter who the QB is, if the run game doesn't improve neither QB will look good.
 
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VolMarine1371 said:
I’m gonna tell you like I have told the rest of the people that thinks that Hooker got Tillman hurt. Hooker did not get him hurt, actually it was even a pass play when he got hurt. Go back and watch the 1st speed option where Sampson was tackled into his legs from behind whole Tillman was blocking. If you had seen that play you would have noticed right then that Tillman struggled to get to his feet and then limped off the field. That’s when the Initial happened. But to answer the rest. Hooker is our starter unless he gets hurt and he has rightfully earned that spot. Milton will get his chance to start next year.
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Good post. He was hurt on two different plays.
 
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Allvols1996 said:
I’d do it every play. Let’s really break some new ground here.
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That’s not imaginative. I’d switch them mid-play! No one will see that coming! Run Milton off the sidelines and then Hooker can either go out for a pass or go to the sidelines.
 
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BigOrangePaddy said:
Spurrier was the only coach who i saw do it successfully.

I saw this because we have a huge NFL level talent on the bench in Milton who has been hitting his receivers in stride on deep routes like it's nothing so far this year.

Now hear me out please. I'm not saying to start Milton over Hooker..But Hooker has a mental problem with his throwing going on this year. Pretty much every pass is high and that's why Tilman got injured. Even short routes he is throwing it high. That's how we got into a 10-0 hole against Pitt as well.

If Hooker is over throwing recievers to open up against UF and we go a few three and outs, i say rotate Milton in there for a series of two. Hopefully this doesn't happen but i could actually see a QB rotation with these guys working out as they are such close friends in real life.
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LOL
 
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