Should Mike Hamilton be let go?

Should Mike Hamilton get fired?

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#26
#26
vol_in_il said:
absolutely
the primary reason being the state of our football program
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This quote says it all.:rock:
Let's Get the football program back n the top ten and get our b-ball program doing things legally as far as the ncaa goes. I wish our programs were on top in all the major sports and I believe we have taken some steps in the right direction and some steps in the wrong direction. That is all the A.D.'s job to oversee all our athletics. Get the right guy for the job!!!! For Christ's sake.....:good!:
 
#28
#28
yont sum iss? said:
Honestly, college baseball is irrelevant. Any sport that SC can win a title in is pretty meaningless. If Hamilton gets fired, it will have NOTHING to do with baseball.
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Regardless of the stature of the sport, the Raliegh hire should be held against Hamilton. Raliegh in no way deserved the job in the first place and he certainly should have been canned after this past season.
 
#29
#29
etmccreary said:
I don't disagree that he should be let go regardless of the NCAA findings, I just think it would be insanely difficult to find a good replacement with those questions in the air.
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I agree as well. If MH were fired who does the University look at for a replacement? I have seen some on this board say Pat, others have said Phil.
 
#30
#30
dblutfan said:
I agree as well. If MH were fired who does the University look at for a replacement? I have seen some on this board say Pat, others have said Phil.
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There's the whole root of the problem. An out of control football program that will have a book or movie made about it if the truth of what went on is ever uncovered.
How much Hamilton knew of what went on under The Warden's tenure remains to be seen.

Phil as AD would be laughable. It is amazing how some people actually think he represented the university admirably. This is the stuff the NCAA needs to dig into.
 
#31
#31
Hamilton should have been fired as soon as he signed the 8 wins = raise and extension for Fulmer. Long overdue.
 
#32
#32
DeepSpringsVol said:
Yeah the thing that bothers me though is that all those bball coaches taking paycuts and Hamilton is Pearls boss and was Kiffins. What Im getting at is why doesnt he have to surrender some cash. If nothing else charity should soak up the money that UT isnt going to save on payroll. I just feel if Bruce loses $$$ so should Hammy because he is ultimately responsible for not policing it.
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Bingo, Can we say Golden Parachute! Hammy hires second tier FB coach for two million less a year. Just cut half a million a year in basketball coaches salary. The Athletic Dept. turns a 2.5 million dollar profit because of all the cuts and Hammy gets a raise because the AD is one of few that is turning a profit. In a few years when it falls apart, Hammy walks away with millions and retires early.
 
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#34
#34
I still say the only really good decision he has made is hiring CBP. Even with what recently happened, I'm still 100% behind CBP.
 
#35
#35
Vercingetorix said:
Tennessee leads the world in embarrassing Sportscenter stories. Our football program is potentially at its lowest point in 30 years. Our basketball coach just got got off the stage after admitting he lied to the NCAA. Both football and basketball are being investigated. The athletic department is an embarrassment. Hamilton's got to go.




The structural problems may never be fixed. I don't think it matters. You don't wait to leave your cheating horrid hag of a wife until you get your car paid off and that big promotion finally comes through. You kick that bag to the curb and get your life fixed.
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I agree. But this issue I'm torn with. It's obvious he needs to go, but until there is a small resemblance to structure, we're putting someone in place that has no one to answer to. That just spells disaster to me.
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#36
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DeepSpringsVol said:
Yeah the thing that bothers me though is that all those bball coaches taking paycuts and Hamilton is Pearls boss and was Kiffins. What Im getting at is why doesnt he have to surrender some cash. If nothing else charity should soak up the money that UT isnt going to save on payroll. I just feel if Bruce loses $$$ so should Hammy because he is ultimately responsible for not policing it.
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Does ur boss know every phone call u make from work?

Would your boss know if u had someone go buy a cell phone for you?

Does your boss know every "rule" you break in the office (vn on company time, personal calls/texts)?

I'm guessing no. At theemd of the day bp knowingly broke NCAA rules multiple times, and fromwhat I can gather, with more than one recruit. That's on bp.

Were u calling for bp's head in January over the I-40 drug bust? Were you calling for dd's head over the bar knox brawl? It's the same thing, except this is worse. BP is one oc the faces of ur university and apparently he doesn't respect it enough to keep it's name above reproach.
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#37
#37
wildnkrazykat said:
Does ur boss know every phone call u make from work?

Would your boss know if u had someone go buy a cell phone for you?

Does your boss know every "rule" you break in the office (vn on company time, personal calls/texts)?

I'm guessing no. At theemd of the day bp knowingly broke NCAA rules multiple times, and fromwhat I can gather, with more than one recruit. That's on bp.

Were u calling for bp's head in January over the I-40 drug bust? Were you calling for dd's head over the bar knox brawl? It's the same thing, except this is worse. BP is one oc the faces of ur university and apparently he doesn't respect it enough to keep it's name above reproach.
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It only matters if the Board of Trustees expected Hambone to know what Pearl was doing or to create a culture and environment that coaches know that creating NCAA issues and sanctions against the University of Tennessee is unacceptable

I agree Hambone can't know every phone call BP makes, but he can certainly create the culture where that's not tolerated at UT
 
#38
#38
has it not always been tolerated to some extent at UT? was fulmer not the whistle blower for years all throughout the SEC while allowing the inmates to run the prison? you surely know i'm playing devil's advocate and while i am not, nor have i ever been a bruce pearl fan (heard too many stories from those in the loop concerning him) i do know the benefits of a competitive ut bball program.
 
#39
#39
NYYVol said:
I agree. But this issue I'm torn with. It's obvious he needs to go, but until there is a small resemblance to structure, we're putting someone in place that has no one to answer to. That just spells disaster to me.
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i agree. that's the one problem. the structure is set up fot tn alum so to speak. outsiders mess it up because that is how we always have done things.
 
#41
#41
wildnkrazykat said:
has it not always been tolerated to some extent at UT? was fulmer not the whistle blower for years all throughout the SEC while allowing the inmates to run the prison? you surely know i'm playing devil's advocate and while i am not, nor have i ever been a bruce pearl fan (heard too many stories from those in the loop concerning him) i do know the benefits of a competitive ut bball program.
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no, it hasn't been tolerated
That's why UT's stayed out of the NCAA spotlight
 
#42
#42
DeepSpringsVol said:
Yeah the thing that bothers me though is that all those bball coaches taking paycuts and Hamilton is Pearls boss and was Kiffins. What Im getting at is why doesnt he have to surrender some cash. If nothing else charity should soak up the money that UT isnt going to save on payroll. I just feel if Bruce loses $$$ so should Hammy because he is ultimately responsible for not policing it.
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:post-4-1090547912: gr8 avatar...
 
#44
#44
I bet most of the complete idiots in this thread calling for his ouster do not have a clue what his primary job is or has been...

I also would venture to guess that they would not know within 30 million dollars how much money Dickey raised in his last 5 years (which were better times for our largest revenue producing sport and the economy) compared to how much money Hamilton raised in the last 5....

Every coach in every program has seen dramatic improvements related to $ because of Hamilton.
 
#45
#45
l3rewski said:
Hammy needs his leash shortened and he needs to be given an ultimatum where any future illegitimate activity results in his termination.

Who would be the one to give him this ultimatum? I guess that's the whole issue.
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He should be on a short leash, but until we get a President, not alot can be done. My only problem with everyone saying he should be gone, is noone is taking into consideration the this MH has accomplished behind the scenes. No one has considered the money that he alone is responsible for bring into the AD. As I said in a different thread, the AD revenue has went up almost 40% over the last 7 years. The only major mistake he made was the Kitten hire. Pearl has been, and will continue to be a "bullseye". The ONLY things that most people are considering are 4 things.
1.Kitten
2.Fulmer situation
3.Pearl
4.DD

I wish someone inside the AD would post on here all the positive things MH has brought to the table.
 
#46
#46
Regardless of the positive that MH has done for the program, having the NCAA investigating both of the major programs because of his compliance incompetence is unacceptable. I don't deny that he has done good things for the programs financially, but the NCAA being on our doorstep is grounds for him to be gone.

Just my two cents.
 
#47
#47
iuvol2012 said:
Regardless of the positive that MH has done for the program, having the NCAA investigating both of the major programs because of his compliance incompetence is unacceptable. I don't deny that he has done good things for the programs financially, but the NCAA being on our doorstep is grounds for him to be gone.

Just my two cents.
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The AA is on the doorstep of 50% of SEC schools ATM. And who knows how many across the country. I agree this is embarrassment to the university, but it's just nature of the beast IMO.
 
#49
#49
Yes he should be let go. Our football program is in the crapper thanks for keeping Fulmer a few years past his due date and then hiring the imbecile Kiffin. Only thing he could hang his nuts on was the Bruce Pearl hire and Lord knows how things are gonna turn out with that....
 
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