Should Players Get Paid?

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99gator said:
Like most things, it's far more complicated than people like to believe.

How much?
Does every school pay every player in every sport the same amount?
If all anyone gets is a few hundred bucks, are they still "exploited"?
Does one school pay a player more than another school?
Do the players pay taxes on this income? Why not pay taxes on their scholarship income?

There are seemingly endless problems when opening this can of worms
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This absolutely right. Does the 2nd string left tackle get the same as the starting QB? Does the women's softball catcher get as much as the men's basketball starting point guard?

Can of worms that doesn't need to be opened. The deal being struck right now is the best one. You come play for my university and we'll pay for your very valuable education. Btw, you'll also be much more likely to get that job offer here in town/state/region because of your heightened visibility/profile that you now have because you played college athletics at our university.

The only thing I would change is letting athletes get a job in the offseason so they can earn some spending cash like other students. That restriction is dumb IMHO.
 
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whocaresgobobcats said:
yeah, but your kid isnt bringing in millions for the school.

how would you feel if you did something for your job that allowed your company and bosses to make millions of dollars in revenue yet you saw $30,000 a year.
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If they formed a minor league and played in the minor league, the players would make jack in the minor league and the schools would still make millions on the players who decided not to go to the minor leagues
 
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whocaresgobobcats said:
yeah, but your kid isnt bringing in millions for the school.

how would you feel if you did something for your job that allowed your company and bosses to make millions of dollars in revenue yet you saw $30,000 a year.
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Who pays the travel expenses when a football team goes on the road? Who pays the millions paid to the coaching staff and buys all the uniforms? Who pays the insurance and medical expenses for the players and staff? I could go on and on but hopefully you guys can get the picture and quit puking out the same old tired "the schools are making millions off the players" crap. Not to mention every company anybody works for doesn't pay the CEO and the average employee the same wage. Man.
 
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Give them what an average college student makes at a 20-hour-per-week part-time job. I would bet that many players would work if they could. They bring in a ton of money and should at least be able to go to the grocery store or go to the movies.
 
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hmanvolfan said:
Who pays the travel expenses when a football team goes on the road? Who pays the millions paid to the coaching staff and buys all the uniforms? Who pays the insurance and medical expenses for the players and staff? I could go on and on but hopefully you guys can get the picture and quit puking out the same old tired "the schools are making millions off the players" crap. Not to mention every company anybody works for doesn't pay the CEO and the average employee the same wage. Man.
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Who pays for all that?

TV contracts and advertising.

And why are there huge TV contracts and advertisers spending millions? The college athletes.


You really don't understand the company analogy. These aren't "average employees". There are the CEOs making the company (university/NCAA) millions of dollars. Yet they are compensated less than an average employee.

Coaches arent the CEOs, ADs aren't. People dont pay money to see them. They pay money to see the athletes. They deserve to be compensated fairly.
 
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99gator said:
If they formed a minor league and played in the minor league, the players would make jack in the minor league and the schools would still make millions on the players who decided not to go to the minor leagues
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so?


that just proves the point that the NCAA is a cartel and exploiting the athletes.
 
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whocaresgobobcats said:
Who pays for all that?

TV contracts and advertising.

And why are there huge TV contracts and advertisers spending millions? The college athletes.


You really don't understand the company analogy. These aren't "average employees". There are the CEOs making the company (university/NCAA) millions of dollars. Yet they are compensated less than an average employee.

Coaches arent the CEOs, ADs aren't. People dont pay money to see them. They pay money to see the athletes. They deserve to be compensated fairly.
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This is the problem.

What is "fair compensation"? Who determines that?

And the title Ix folks will want to chat.

Does the 3rd string left guard get paid what the starting qb makes?

Does the starting qb at western Michigan get paid the same as Johnny football?
 
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whocaresgobobcats said:
Who pays for all that?

TV contracts and advertising.

And why are there huge TV contracts and advertisers spending millions? The college athletes.


You really don't understand the company analogy. These aren't "average employees". There are the CEOs making the company (university/NCAA) millions of dollars. Yet they are compensated less than an average employee.

Coaches arent the CEOs, ADs aren't. People dont pay money to see them. They pay money to see the athletes. They deserve to be compensated fairly.
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Do you have a real job or are you a student?
 
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Your right making them earn something is just so terrible. You don't have to agree with what I said but there is no need to be a d!ck head. I just made a suggestion.
 
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99gator said:
This is the problem.

What is "fair compensation"? Who determines that?

And the title Ix folks will want to chat?

Does the 3rd string left guard get paid what the starting qb makes?

Does the starting qb at western Michigan get paid the same as Johnny football?
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maybe you missed my post answering this.

the NCAA can set a monthly/yearly/semester stipend applicable to all student athletes that are currently on a roster, on scholly or not.

then, players, with help from the compliance department, can negotiate deals for fees based on their image, number, appearances, endorsements, autographs, etc. the market can then choose how much to pay them and players are fairly compensated based on their play, popularity and performance.


there will need to be a new staff in compliance. kind of like agents for players to help with negotiations. that is one key factor that would need to be addressed.
 
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whocaresgobobcats said:
Who pays for all that?

TV contracts and advertising.

And why are there huge TV contracts and advertisers spending millions? The college athletes.


You really don't understand the company analogy. These aren't "average employees". There are the CEOs making the company (university/NCAA) millions of dollars. Yet they are compensated less than an average employee.

Coaches arent the CEOs, ADs aren't. People dont pay money to see them. They pay money to see the athletes. They deserve to be compensated fairly.
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hmanvolfan said:
Can you come out of your pocket to pay for your kids to get a degree from Duke?
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So you don't believe getting a college degree is a valuable commodity? Then I say universities should get out of the sports business and concentrate on education. Anybody that wants to play sports can form their own sports corporations and earn the millions to pay themselves. Win, win.
 
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No!
I think it would ruin college sports. The reason I love college sports more than I love pro sports is because I know they are giving it their all for something I love for nothing more than a scholarship and PRIDE!
They get money on every road trip and I don't want to get into economics and what not but many of these kids would not have the opportunity to get these top notch educations if it wasn't for these sports scholarships. I know many of these kids assume they will get paid one day but most do not and these scholarships set them up after college to make money in other ways. They are already getting paid enough. I know what it's like to pay for an education and it's worth a lot in my opinion.
 
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V O L S said:
So completely fill their schedule with stress and squash their social life?
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I'm not sayin make them work 80 hours a week. Maybe if they had a part time job they wouldn't have time to rob kids at the pilot or beat them up and take there debit cards j/s.
 
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hmanvolfan said:
So you don't believe getting a college degree is a valuable commodity? Then I say universities should get out of the sports business and concentrate on education. Anybody that wants to play sports can form their own sports corporations and earn the millions to pay themselves. Win, win.
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its valuable (never said otherwise), but not fair compensation for the revenue many athletes bring the school.
 
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whocaresgobobcats said:
maybe you missed my post answering this.

the NCAA can set a monthly/yearly/semester stipend applicable to all student athletes that are currently on a roster, on scholly or not.

then, players, with help from the compliance department, can negotiate deals for fees based on their image, number, appearances, endorsements, autographs, etc. the market can then choose how much to pay them and players are fairly compensated based on their play, popularity and performance.


there will need to be a new staff in compliance. kind of like agents for players to help with negotiations. that is one key factor that would need to be addressed.
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You don't think a player's marketing value is exponentially higher by going to Ohio state as opposed to Toledo?

Would that be used and misused as a recruiting tool?

Whoever could funnel the most cash to players wins. The univ of Texas would love this
 
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I've got to tell you that on a side note, I am tired of hearing how broke some of these kids are while they have thousands of dollars of tattoos on their body.

No date, pizza or condom money.

But, my arms and back are inked up. Every inch
 
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