Should the Senate Allow Witnesses Be Called During the Impeachment Trial?

[PointGuard]

Are they? So what you're saying is that the testimony and evidence provided to them by the House is insufficient for a conviction?

All additional relevant information that has come out after the conclusion of the impeachment vote should be admissible. Why would you not want to be informed?

 

[Vol Main]

No, 37, your implied threat to my life did not get under my skin. But if you did not intend it to be noticed, you would not have posted it. So, you posted an implied threat, and there's nothing wrong with that, according to you. But if I notice your implied threat, you think there is something wrong with me. Duh

 

[FLVOL69]

All additional relevant information that has come out after the conclusion of the impeachment vote should be admissible. Why would you not want to be informed?

It’s real simple there isn’t any..

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

National polls are not looking good for Moscow Mitch on this

Ok, now do it for the voters in red states only if you want fairness.....

 

[FLVOL69]

Ok, now do it for the voters in red states.....

You think they would’ve learned their lesson by now when it comes to polls

 

[evillawyer]

Ok, now do it for the voters in red states only if you want fairness.....

Do people actually live in red States? I thought places like Wyoming were mostly sheep and the two senators and one representative who vote on their behalf.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

You think they would’ve learned their lesson by now when it comes to polls

Survey says 99.5% of those surveyed have no idea of what they're being asked....

 

[37L1]

No, 37, your implied threat to my life did not get under my skin. But if you did not intend it to be noticed, you would not have posted it. So, you posted an implied threat, and there's nothing wrong with that, according to you. But if I notice your implied threat, you think there is something wrong with me. Duh

How do you know I was going to murder you? How can you assume it was a threat? Perhaps I was going to show you my new acquisition, which isn't a crime. I used the crime of murder as an example of your ignorance regarding the difference of proving a crime and committing one. Motive, means and opportunity doesn't always equate that a crime has or will be committed. I probably should have used a different example since it rustled your jimmies so. You should have gotten the point, though it appears not, Mr. Forest for the trees.

How's this: I play baseball, I have a bat, I want to hit the pitcher because he beaned me. I don't. Motive, means, opportunity and yet no crime. Go figure.

 

[hog88]

All additional relevant information that has come out after the conclusion of the impeachment vote should be admissible. Why would you not want to be informed?

Why would the Dems hold an impeachment vote without all relevant information?

 

[VolStrom]

Do people actually live in red States? I thought places like Wyoming were mostly sheep and the two senators and one representative who vote on their behalf.

When I see crap like what you just posted, I just shake my head and hope someday you have to step foot inside of middle America and see how most Americans treat each other.

 

[37L1]

Why would the Dems hold an impeachment vote without all relevant information?

Because they could. "He's impeached foreverrrrrrr."

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

National polls are not looking good for Moscow Mitch on this

Is there a poll where they ask if anyone gives a crap?

 

[C-south]

All additional relevant information that has come out after the conclusion of the impeachment vote should be admissible. Why would you not want to be informed?

Then start the process over. They rushed their partisan sham job and they’re gonna have to live with what the senate lays out. They don’t make the rules this time.

 

[KrazyVolFan]

It's a waste of time ,money and frankly I'm sick of all of it. No way they ever remove him from office so get this crap over with and for heaven's sake move on....... Nobody will though cause it makes too much sense that swamp needs to be drained same old politician wind bags IMO

 

[Vol Main]

Those aren’t examples those are hyperbole. Your feelings are not facts.

I posted about the banker in charge of Trump's loan accounts dying by hanging. That is a factual post. I won't even ask how you think that is about my feelings. I can tell you, since you seem uninterested by that factual report, that more of the story is already being reported. But let's not neglect the more relevant fact, reports that Deutsche Bank of Germany has loaned Trump over two billion dollars, underwritten by a state owned bank in Russia. Will you please restrict your comments to that? Or you can say you think it is unimportant that a.U.S. President is in hock to Russia for over two billion dollars. I would have posted more facts and sources if it weren't for all of the infernally pesky posts which waste everybody's time.

 

[37L1]

I posted about the banker in charge of Trump's loan accounts dying by hanging. That is a factual post. I won't even ask how you think that is about my feelings. I can tell you, since you seem uninterested by that factual report, that more of the story is already being reported. But let's not neglect the more relevant fact, reports that Deutsche Bank of Germany has loaned Trump over two billion dollars, underwritten by a state owned bank in Russia. Will you please restrict your comments to that? Or you can say you think it is unimportant that a.U.S. President is in hock to Russia for over two billion dollars. I would have posted more facts and sources if it weren't for all of the infernally pesky posts which waste everybody's time.

So where is the crime?

Where is the treason?

If it is true, provable and so important, where is this charged in the articles of impeachment?

Only one hanging? The Clinton's say "Hold my beer."

 

[0nelilreb]

Do people actually live in red States? I thought places like Wyoming were mostly sheep and the two senators and one representative who vote on their behalf.

Why yes they do . It’s the ones that all the liberals are flocking to because the taxes are lower and the left hasn’t screwed them up with litigation and restrictions yet , trying to make them into their version of utopia .

 

[evillawyer]

Why yes they do . It’s the ones that all the liberals are flocking to because the taxes are lower and the left hasn’t screwed them up with litigation and restrictions yet , trying to make them into their version of utopia .

I was wrong about Wyoming. I apologise. It's not sheep, it cows, that far surpass the human population.

If cows staged a revolt against humans, these 9 states would be udderly screwed

 

[C-south]

I posted about the banker in charge of Trump's loan accounts dying by hanging. That is a factual post. I won't even ask how you think that is about my feelings. I can tell you, since you seem uninterested by that factual report, that more of the story is already being reported. But let's not neglect the more relevant fact, reports that Deutsche Bank of Germany has loaned Trump over two billion dollars, underwritten by a state owned bank in Russia. Will you please restrict your comments to that? Or you can say you think it is unimportant that a.U.S. President is in hock to Russia for over two billion dollars. I would have posted more facts and sources if it weren't for all of the infernally pesky posts which waste everybody's time.

It is unimportant. In the grand scheme of things two billion is a drop in the bucket and hardly an amount that the president would sell out for. Maybe he can send them a small pallet of cash as that seems to be an ok thing to do.

 

[0nelilreb]

I was wrong about Wyoming. I apologise. It's not sheep, it cows, that far surpass the human population.

If cows staged a revolt against humans, these 9 states would be udderly screwed

From just what I’ve seen personally , I’d say pronghorn sheep out number the people so you could be technically correct . Lol

 

[Vol Main]

How do you know I was going to murder you? How can you assume it was a threat? Perhaps I was going to show you my new acquisition, which isn't a crime. I used the crime of murder as an example of your ignorance regarding the difference of proving a crime and committing one. Motive, means and opportunity doesn't always equate that a crime has or will be committed. I probably should have used a different example since it rustled your jimmies so. You should have gotten the point, though it appears not, Mr. Forest for the trees.

How's this: I play baseball, I have a bat, I want to hit the pitcher because he beaned me. I don't. Motive, means, opportunity and yet no crime. Go figure.

Because they could. "He's impeached foreverrrrrrr."

The House heard testimony from a number of highly respectable witnesses, who provided evidence of bribery, extortion, felonious campaign violations, and unlawful abuse of power. A big problem with Trump is that he is involved with so much illegal and unconstitutional behavior, that investigations could go on for years. The cases presented against him are clear and there is evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. But Republicans don't care about the evidence. They are conducting a cover-up, not a trial.

 

[vols40]

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Vote still stands at 57% to 43%.

And a poll 44 people on this site will have no bearing on witnesses called.

 

[vols40]

I was wrong about Wyoming. I apologise. It's not sheep, it cows, that far surpass the human population.

If cows staged a revolt against humans, these 9 states would be udderly screwed

If cows weren't so delicious they would be extinct.

 

[Vol Main]

It is unimportant. In the grand scheme of things two billion is a drop in the bucket and hardly an amount that the president would sell out for. Maybe he can send them a small pallet of cash as that seems to be an ok thing to do.

You might think two billion dollars is insignificant, but try owing two billion dollars to the Russians. If you think they don't hold people accountable, then you don't know wtf you're talking about. I am getting the impression that this forum is a collecting place for the stupidest dishonest people in the world.

 

[37L1]

The House heard testimony from a number of highly respectable witnesses, who provided evidence of bribery, extortion, felonious campaign violations, and unlawful abuse of power. A big problem with Trump is that he is involved with so much illegal and unconstitutional behavior, that investigations could go on for years. The cases presented against him are clear and there is evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. But Republicans don't care about the evidence. They are conducting a cover-up, not a trial.

So if it so evident and widely available in the public domain, why weren't they in the articles of impeachment?

The Democrats had to rig the investigative process and denied the opposition requests for witnesses and the ability to conduct their own inquiry that could provide exculpatory evidence for Trump.

Now the tables get turned and they're crying, "Unfair", "cover up".

Why weren't "bribery" (a criminal act), extortion (a criminal act), felonious campaign violations (a criminal act) listed as articles of impeachment? Why?

If the evidence is so clear and "beyond a reasonable doubt", how can you explain that not a single Republican voted to send these articles of impeachment forward and, in fact, a Democrat or two voted against sending them forward? The Republicans have never been this united and you can thank Schiff, Nadler, Pelosi and Schumer for doing that.