Should the Senate Allow Witnesses Be Called During the Impeachment Trial?

[Mick]

White House violated the law by freezing Ukraine aid, GAO says

Sorry wrong thread.

 

[luthervol]

No

I must have misunderstood what you were implying.
It almost sounded as if you were saying that they work for their constituents so will do as their constituents wish.

 

[hog88]

In theory, not in practice. At best, they’re working for a portion of their constituents.

Even those that didn't vote for them are constituents.

 

[hog88]

I must have misunderstood what you were implying.
It almost sounded as if you were saying that they work for their constituents so will do as their constituents wish.

No, that's not how it works.

 

[Tennesseefan2019]

Nancy Pelosi's Articles of Impeachment will go down in flames in the Senate

 

[luthervol]

No, that's not how it works.

Oh, I see. My bad.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I think they should drag this out until September

 

[C-south]

My mind was made up within a week of Trump entering the race.

So you admit it’s all a waste of time.

 

[luthervol]

So you admit it’s all a waste of time.

Not at all. It is imperative that the record is as clear as possible as to why Trump should not be president.

 

[Hunerwadel]

as long as they start with Eric Ciaramella, bug eyed schiff and crack head baby Biden

I agree with you for the first time ever. No holes barred. Pull the curtain back and let the American people see and hear it all.

 

[Hunerwadel]

Devin Nunes now remembers talking to Giuliani associate Lev Parnas after previously saying he couldn't recall his name

"I don't know nothin' about that. Oh, I was in the olive oil business with his father. But that was a long time ago. That's all."

 

[MontyPython]

If the evidence and testimony gathered by the House and sent to the Senate is sufficient for a conviction, why are witnesses needed?

Well, to quote Trump himself, it's all a witch hunt and bogus. So, per the Defendant, there is not only not sufficient evidence, there's no evidence. In any trial, the jury deserves to hear the whole story, does it not? Both sides should be allowed to put on (most any) witness they feel strengthens their case.

 

[luthervol]

Well, to quote Trump himself, it's all a witch hunt and bogus. So, per the Defendant, there is not only not sufficient evidence, there's no evidence. In any trial, the jury deserves to hear the whole story, does it not? Both sides should be allowed to put on (most any) witness they feel strengthens their case.

One would think.

 

[hog88]

Well, to quote Trump himself, it's all a witch hunt and bogus. So, per the Defendant, there is not only not sufficient evidence, there's no evidence. In any trial, the jury deserves to hear the whole story, does it not? Both sides should be allowed to put on (most any) witness they feel strengthens their case.

You mean the House isn’t giving the Senate the “whole story”?

 

[happy-go_vol]

Your mind was made up before this latest form of Michael Avenatti came in to your life

Yeah, luther doesnt like trump. Luther still believes trump and the Russian are a team. Does luther recycle his tin foil hat or does he use the same one.

 

[happy-go_vol]

Not at all. It is imperative that the record is as clear as possible as to why Trump should not be president.

He has more right than your muslim did to be president. At least trump was born here.

 

[MontyPython]

You mean the House isn’t giving the Senate the “whole story”?

That's a fair assessment.

But, of course, what evidence is there to offer that Trump is innocent? I mean, Trump could have Tweeted out proof of his innocence at any time. Trump could have permitted the release of all the requested documents. Trump could allow his cabinet members to testify at any time.

But he hasn't.

Not the actions of an innocent man.

 

[hog88]

That's a fair assessment.

But, of course, what evidence is there to offer that Trump is innocent? I mean, Trump could have Tweeted out proof of his innocence at any time. Trump could have permitted the release of all the requested documents. Trump could allow his cabinet members to testify at any time.

But he hasn't.

Not the actions of an innocent man.

There is no need for him to prove his innocence. It's up to the House to prove his guilt.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Not at all. It is imperative that the record is as clear as possible as to why Trump should not be president.

You lose.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

There is no need for him to prove his innocence. It's up to the House to prove his guilt.

They have to trump up some charge worthy of removal first. Create 'witnesses' etc etc etc.

 

[luthervol]

There is no need for him to prove his innocence. It's up to the House to prove his guilt.

There is no need for him to do anything as long as the senate refuses to hold him accountable.
There will continue to be increasing evidence that solidifies his guilt in the eyes of the majority and makes the continued turning of a blind eye by the rest that much more obvious and costly.

 

[volinbham]

SIAP but the witnesses deposed in the Clinton version had already been witnesses in the process. (Starr investigation) Their testimony from the Starr investigation was used in the House impeachment proceedings. No new witnesses were used in the Senate trial.

The House had their chance and punted.

I'm fine with or with out them but this is comparing apples to hand grenades

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Has this not been discussed, ad nauseum, in another thread?

 

[VolStrom]

There is no need for him to do anything as long as the senate refuses to hold him accountable.
There will continue to be increasing evidence that solidifies his guilt in the eyes of the majority and makes the continued turning of a blind eye by the rest that much more obvious and costly.

Well there you go, impeach him again if you have rock solid evidence, but you better do it this year because you'll never own the house ever again.

 

[volinbham]

That's a fair assessment.

But, of course, what evidence is there to offer that Trump is innocent? I mean, Trump could have Tweeted out proof of his innocence at any time. Trump could have permitted the release of all the requested documents. Trump could allow his cabinet members to testify at any time.

But he hasn't.

Not the actions of an innocent man.

More of the "prove your innocence" crowd. Sad