Should the Senate Allow Witnesses Be Called During the Impeachment Trial?

[Mick]

Actually, the House is guilty for a false impeachment. "Abuse of power" is not a crime even if it were true. "Obstruction of Congress" is a fantasy because the President can use executive privilege. Perfectly legal. This was a political opinion impeachment, nothing more and
Trump will not be convicted.

Sorry sport, the House of Representatives really did impeach Trump. When you wake up from your dream, Trump will still be impeached.

 

[Velo Vol]

Actually, the House is guilty for a false impeachment. "Abuse of power" is not a crime even if it were true. "Obstruction of Congress" is a fantasy because the President can use executive privilege. Perfectly legal. This was a political opinion impeachment, nothing more and
Trump will not be convicted.

You do know that Clinton was impeached for "Abuse of Power," right?

H. Rept. 105-830 - IMPEACHMENT OF WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

 

[Velo Vol]

 

[tvolsfan]

“I don’t know Rudy. He was only my lawyer for a brief period of time.”

 

[Orangeslice13]

That's a fair assessment.

But, of course, what evidence is there to offer that Trump is innocent? I mean, Trump could have Tweeted out proof of his innocence at any time. Trump could have permitted the release of all the requested documents. Trump could allow his cabinet members to testify at any time.

But he hasn't.

Not the actions of an innocent man.

my advice to you is if you ever talk to the police for any reason get a lawyer. Just like in this case they are not really that interested in the truth.

 

[0nelilreb]

Sorry sport, the House of Representatives really did impeach Trump. When you wake up from your dream, Trump will still be impeached.

I actually believe if anyone is dreaming it would be the left . They are thinking just because a Democratic controlled house impeached a president , a Republican controlled Senate will follow suite .

 

[Orangeslice13]

I actually believe if anyone is dreaming it would be the left . They are thinking just because a Democratic controlled house impeached a president , a Republican controlled Senate will follow suite .

“impeached forever” Is such a joke. Bill Clinton is also impeached forever and nobody ever thinks about that nor do they care.

 

[Mick]

I actually believe if anyone is dreaming it would be the left . They are thinking just because a Democratic controlled house impeached a president , a Republican controlled Senate will follow suite .

That is absurd, everyone knows the Republican controlled Senate will not remove the leader of their Party and I can't think of a single poster that has said otherwise. Wake up lilreb.

 

[0nelilreb]

That is absurd, everyone knows the Republican controlled Senate will not remove the leader of their Party and I can't think of a single poster that has said otherwise. Wake up lilreb.

Then why the hold up of the articles by Pelosi , trying the quid pro quo ? Unless... she was stalling for time waiting on those custom pens to be delivered .

 

[Mick]

Then why the hold up of the articles by Pelosi , trying the quid pro quo ? Unless... she was stalling for time waiting on those custom pens to be delivered .

Because she could. If it pissed off Trump, Redhats, and the GOP, it was well worth it.

PenGate! lol

 

[0nelilreb]

Because she could. If it pissed off Trump, Redhats, and the GOP, it was well worth it.

PenGate! lol

I don’t think it pissed anybody off . She gambled on the quid pro quo , Mitch told her where she could stick that , then she waited on the pens to arrive . The whole Pelosi is a mastermind theory the media was trying out , didn’t play out so well when she gave out pens for prizes . Made them all look like partisan hacks .

 

[Mick]

I don’t think it pissed anybody off . She gambled on the quid pro quo , Mitch told her where she could stick that , then she waited on the pens to arrive . The whole Pelosi is a mastermind theory the media was trying out , didn’t play out so well when she gave out pens for prizes . Made them all look like partisan hacks .

Like I said, if it pisses off the Redhats. It doesn't take much.

PenGate!

 

[37L1]

I don’t think it pissed anybody off . She gambled on the quid pro quo , Mitch told her where she could stick that , then she waited on the pens to arrive . The whole Pelosi is a mastermind theory the media was trying out , didn’t play out so well when she gave out pens for prizes . Made them all look like partisan hacks .

They didn't need pens to look like that.

 

[hUTch2002]

I’d hate to be a plate of ribs around those gentlemen.

 

[0nelilreb]

Like I said, if it pisses off the Redhats. It doesn't take much.

PenGate!

You missed the I don’t believe it pissed anyone off . It was just bad optics on Pelosi and the group . They literally had to stop screeching about the Rs being partisan in the senate to the media , while they did their pure partisan pen signing . Smh . The fact that you don’t see this is not surprising .

 

[Mick]

You missed the I don’t believe it pissed anyone off . It was just bad optics on Pelosi and the group . They literally had to stop screeching about the Rs being partisan in the senate to the media , while they did their pure partisan pen signing . Smh . The fact that you don’t see this is not surprising .

I see it and don't care. How you like those apples. You're the one screeching about it like it "doesn't" bother you.

 

[0nelilreb]

I see it and don't care. How you like those apples. You're the one screeching about it like it "doesn't" bother you.

One day maybe I can be as PRINCIPLED as you are . You see the hypocrisy and the intellectual dishonest that they are showing to the public and still say you don’t care , interesting . Duly noted .

 

[Mick]

One day maybe I can be as PRINCIPLED as you are . You see the hypocrisy and the intellectual dishonest that they are showing to the public and still say you don’t care , interesting . Duly noted .

I have never once cared how many pens politicians use to sign stuff. You probably didn't either, but now its the smoking gun for hypocrisy and dishonesty of the Democrats. If I was Nancy, I would send one to Trump.

 

[0nelilreb]

I have never once cared how many pens politicians use to sign stuff. You probably didn't either, but now its the smoking gun for hypocrisy and dishonesty of the Democrats. If I was Nancy, I would send one to Trump.

It’s not about the “ pen” it’s about the hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty of screeching about how bad the Rs are with partisanship while doing the exact same thing . The golden fountain pens are just an example of over the top political extras . The fact that you said you’d send one to Trump proves the point of partisan games .

 

[Mick]

It’s not about the “ pen” it’s about the hypocrisy and intellectual dishonesty of screeching about how bad the Rs are with partisanship while doing the exact same thing . The golden fountain pens are just an example of over the top political extras . The fact that you said you’d send one to Trump proves the point of partisan games .

Of course it's not about the pens, its about that thing she signed with 'em. I would like to have one of those pens though. Historic, one will be in the Presidential library.

 

[0nelilreb]

Of course it's not about the pens, its about that thing she signed with 'em. I would like to have one of those pens though. Historic, one will be in the Presidential library.

Then contact Jerry Nadler , he’d probably swap his to you for one of those Popeyes chicken sandwiches and a milkshake .

 

[vols40]

Wrong. It's up to the House AND Senate to hold a fair and complete trial.

Look, it's obvious why you and other Trump supporters don't want to know the facts. You're a bright guy. You know Trump's actions were corrupt.

As of this morning, 58% of the voters hear agree that facts matter.

This is quite possibly the most incoherent drivel ever spewed. And just because your incapable of providing for yourself and family it does mean that I should. And do you think asking a general question about whether facts matter means anything other than the people polled are stupid? Why don't you ask them if they believe that someone accused in this country bears responsibility for proving their innocence. Please do me a favor and do not move into my neighborhood. If you do I promise you won't like it. I have no problem calling you people out

 

[C-south]

Sorry sport, the House of Representatives really did impeach Trump. When you wake up from your dream, Trump will still be impeached.

And he’ll still be your president at least 5 more years.

 

[vols40]

Of course it's not about the pens, its about that thing she signed with 'em. I would like to have one of those pens though. Historic, one will be in the Presidential library.

If it wasn't about the pens why didn't she just sign the articles with an ordinary pen? Sign it with whatever you want. It just ensures that throughout history people will be reminded how partisan and stupid she is. And Nancy do yourself a favor and see an orthodontist. Wow those horse teeth are spectacular!

 

[vols40]

And he’ll still be your president at least 5 more years.

9 more years. 9 more years