Should Wilhoit have gotten the nod?

#26
#26
No way Wilhoit kicks a 63 yd FG.

Kickoffs are from the 35, I have seen kickers put those in the back of the end zone, I haven't seen Wilhoit do that very often.
 
#27
#27
How did a thread asking about a 63 yard FG attempt last more than 2 posts?
 
#28
#28
oklavol said:
No way Wilhoit kicks a 63 yd FG.

Kickoffs are from the 35, I have seen kickers put those in the back of the end zone, I haven't seen Wilhoit do that very often.
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Are you serious??? I've seen him nearly put a kickoff through the uprights three times this year. Are you SURE you've been watching the games Okla?!?! Wilhoit has consistently put the ball out of reach on the kickoff this year.
 
#29
#29
rwemyss said:
Are you serious??? I've seen him nearly put a kickoff through the uprights three times this year. Are you SURE you've been watching the games Okla?!?! Wilhoit has consistently put the ball out of reach on the kickoff this year.
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Didn't he put one out of the endzone in the UF game? Or a least come close to it?
 
#30
#30
OWB said:
Didn't he put one out of the endzone in the UF game? Or a least come close to it?
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Yes. That was one of the three kicks I was refering too... although that may have been the one kicked from the 50, thanks to a personal foul on the gators.
 
#31
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rwemyss said:
Are you serious??? I've seen him nearly put a kickoff through the uprights three times this year. Are you SURE you've been watching the games Okla?!?! Wilhoit has consistently put the ball out of reach on the kickoff this year.
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Haha. I don't remember the kickoffs traveling through the air out of the back of the end zone. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I just dont remember it.
 
#32
#32
oklavol said:
Haha. I don't remember the kickoffs traveling through the air out of the back of the end zone. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I just dont remember it.
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Fair enough. The most likely thing is that you were too busy celebrating the reason we were kicking off. :lol:

But yes, he has been doing a great job of booming them out of the endzone... now that one that went out of bounds on Saturday...
 
#33
#33
rwemyss said:
Yes. That was one of the three kicks I was refering too... although that may have been the one kicked from the 50, thanks to a personal foul on the gators.
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That's a 75 yd FG if he's kicking off through the uprights isnt it?

Used to be kickoffs were from the 40 yd line and would be a 70 yd FG in college. A few guys could do it. Now I think its from the 35 same as the pro's.
 
#34
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rwemyss said:
Yes. That was one of the three kicks I was refering too... although that may have been the one kicked from the 50, thanks to a personal foul on the gators.
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No, that one was short (on purpose) Remember? That's when our coverage team actually pinned another team behind the 10 on a kickoff.
 
#35
#35
Former UT signee, Dirk Birgonone, kicked one in HS supposedly 68 yards or something like that. Unfortunately he had a dead leg when he arrived in Knoxville.:cray:
 
#36
#36
OWB said:
No, that one was short (on purpose) Remember? That's when our coverage team actually pinned another team behind the 10 on a kickoff.
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You're right! So the three I am thinking of really were boomers like that.

Yeah if he somehow made the upright it would be the equivalent of a 75 yard field goal. Of course, the mechanics of the two look very different. I'm not a kicker, so I wouldn't know for sure.
 
#37
#37
rwemyss said:
You're right! So the three I am thinking of really were boomers like that.

Yeah if he somehow made the upright it would be the equivalent of a 75 yard field goal. Of course, the mechanics of the two look very different. I'm not a kicker, so I wouldn't know for sure.
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You are right that the mechanics are different. Kicking a ball off a tee is drastically different than kicking one with a holder. I saw Jeff Hall drill one on my high school field during a football camp from 70. I think Jeff would be the first to tell you that he couldn't do that with a holder.
 
#38
#38
Seriously, I do think that when Wilhoit kicked off at the 50 yard line after the Florida roughing the passer penality on our TD, that a coach with any balls would have asked Wilhoit to kick an onside kick. As it turned out Florida wound up punting from inside the 10 and we got the ball in Florida territory. When we failed to score on that possession the game was slipping away.
 
#39
#39
rockydoc said:
Seriously, I do think that when Wilhoit kicked off at the 50 yard line after the Florida roughing the passer penality on our TD, that a coach with any balls would have asked Wilhoit to kick an onside kick.
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Please tell me you're joking..:crazy:
 
#40
#40
rockydoc said:
Seriously, I do think that when Wilhoit kicked off at the 50 yard line after the Florida roughing the passer penality on our TD, that a coach with any balls would have asked Wilhoit to kick an onside kick.
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What is going on in this thread that is causing people to lose all concept of strategy? Why with an opportunity to pin your opponent deep after a momentum changing play like the Flea Flicker would you do something that has literally a 90% chance of giving Florida the ball near midfield?
 
#42
#42
rockydoc said:
Seriously, I do think that when Wilhoit kicked off at the 50 yard line after the Florida roughing the passer penality on our TD, that a coach with any balls would have asked Wilhoit to kick an onside kick. As it turned out Florida wound up punting from inside the 10 and we got the ball in Florida territory. When we failed to score on that possession the game was slipping away.
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I think you just pushed me to critical mass... seriously, my head may explode.
 
#43
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OWB said:
Please tell me you're joking..:crazy:
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No joke. Tommy Tuberfield(sp) probably would have. The worse senario would have been Florida getting the ball at the Tennessee 40 instead of the 20 as usually happens. I understand that there is a 30-40 % chance of getting an onside kick when the other team expects it and higher when the onside kick is a suprise, as would have been the case in this incident.

BTW, did anyone second guess TT when he went for it on fourth and one inside his territory against LSU in the fourth quarter? Who won the game?
 
#44
#44
That call by Tuberville was ballsy, but onside kicking in the second quarter with all the mo' on your side would be retarded.
 
#45
#45
rockydoc said:
No joke. Tommy Tuberfield(sp) probably would have. The worse senario would have been Florida getting the ball at the Tennessee 40 instead of the 20 as usually happens. I understand that there is a 30-40 % chance of getting an onside kick when the other team expects it and higher when the onside kick is a suprise, as would have been the case in this incident.

BTW, did anyone second guess TT when he went for it on fourth and one inside his territory against LSU in the fourth quarter? Who won the game?
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No offense rockydoc, but when that onside kick failed, you probably would have been one of the first people on here questioning the call.

An onside kick in that situation would have been a very desperate move and it wasn't even close to being needed at the time.
 
#46
#46
There's just no way you do that in that situation. Why hand them field position like that?

Trust me, neither Tommy Tuberfield nor Tommy Tuberville would have done that.
 
#47
#47
GAVol said:
There's just no way you do that in that situation. Why hand them field position like that?

Trust me, neither Tommy Tuberfield nor Tommy Tuberville would have done that.
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:lolabove: :lolabove: :lolabove:

How did I not notice that the first time I read it?:birgits_giggle:
 
#48
#48
OWB said:
No offense rockydoc, but when that onside kick failed, you probably would have been one of the first people on here questioning the call.

An onside kick in that situation would have been a very desperate move and it wasn't even close to being needed at the time.
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I agree with our defense, but with LSU's Auburn's, Florida's , Georgia's and possibly's Alabama's defense the would not be a huge gamble. If the kick was not sucessful, giving the other team the ball on their 35 or 40 yard lin is not a great gamble. (Wilhoit's out of bound KO gave Florida the ball on the 35). Remember in the above situation he was kicking off from THE 50 YARD LINE!
 
#49
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rockydoc said:
I agree with our defense, but with LSU's Auburn's, Florida's , Georgia's and possibly's Alabama's defense the would not be a huge gamble. If the kick was not sucessful, giving the other team the ball on their 35 or 40 yard lin is not a great gamble. (Wilhoit's out of bound KO gave Florida the ball on the 35). Remember in the above situation he was kicking off from THE 50 YARD LINE!
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Do you realize that you just ripped on the defense when the exact series we are talking about, they held UF to a 3 and out, Florida's third down play came from their ONE. :wacko:
 
#50
#50
Work with me guys and think about it. The onside kick would have been so uncharacteristic for Fulmer/Cutcliffe it would have been sucessful. The the first play after getting the ball woud have been a post pattern to Swain. Pardon the cliche "go for the jugler".
 
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