SI re UT Bubble

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he says one of UConn's bad losses is @Tennessee. That's a bad loss??
 
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Here's hoping the selection committee is getting a whiff of all of this pub for UT.

they don't sequester them, right...like a jury? heh
 
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golfballs03 said:
he says one of UConn's bad losses is @Tennessee. That's a bad loss??
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Unfortunately yes, 17-13 team beating you isn't a good loss no matter if UT is a tournament team or not. But it was a good win for us! :rock:
 
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golfballs03 said:
he says one of UConn's bad losses is @Tennessee. That's a bad loss??
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It's UConn, and we're 17-13 overall witha 10-6 conference record. Given their recent history and talent on the roster, yes, it's a bad loss for them.
 
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UTjonez said:
Unfortunately yes, 17-13 team beating you isn't a good loss no matter if UT is a tournament team or not. But it was a good win for us! :rock:
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What? We are a bubble team and finished 2nd in the SEC. It might not be a "good loss" whatever that is, but it's not a bad loss.
 
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LynxVol said:
It's UConn, and we're 17-13 overall witha 10-6 conference record. Given their recent history and talent on the roster, yes, it's a bad loss for them.
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Sorry, you're wrong. Because they also list Seton Hall as a good win for them. If Seton Hall is a good win, we are definitely not a bad loss

UConn also lost to Central Florida, but apparently, that's not a bad loss.
 
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golfballs03 said:
What? We are a bubble team and finished 2nd in the SEC. It might not be a "good loss" whatever that is, but it's not a bad loss.
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At no point did any sane person think we were going to beat UCONN it was an upset by any definition at that point in the season. That my friend constitutes a bad loss.

If they played us today, and we won, no one would call it a bad loss. The team they played back then is not the team we have now. That win was the first glimmer of what we have now.

Now I shall proceed to step out on a whisper thin limb and say this. I hope we don't make the cut. I hope we get 2 wins in the SEC tourney and get snubbed and instead go to the NIT.

I hope this for 2 reasons. The NIT offers more chances for games to a young team. In the AA's we are most likely 1 and done the NIT we have a legit shot at moving far. Secondly getting snubbed will piss off the players and put a terrible taste in their mouths.

For the same reasons I think the UK loss in FB was a blessing in disguise (there I go out on those limbs again) I think knocking on the door but not getting into the dance will make us a much better team next season.
 
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pimo1 said:
At no point did any sane person think we were going to beat UCONN it was an upset by any definition at that point in the season. That my friend constitutes a bad loss.

If they played us today, and we won, no one would call it a bad loss. The team they played back then is not the team we have now. That win was the first glimmer of what we have now.

Now I shall proceed to step out on a whisper thin limb and say this. I hope we don't make the cut. I hope we get 2 wins in the SEC tourney and get snubbed and instead go to the NIT.

I hope this for 2 reasons. The NIT offers more chances for games to a young team. In the AA's we are most likely 1 and done the NIT we have a legit shot at moving far. Secondly getting snubbed will piss off the players and put a terrible taste in their mouths.

For the same reasons I think the UK loss in FB was a blessing in disguise (there I go out on those limbs again) I think knocking on the door but not getting into the dance will make us a much better team next season.
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Wow, you can't be serious :wacko:
 
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Golf, I think it's relative to the quality of ball you're playing at any given point of the season. So, for a team like UConn to lose to us at that point in the season, I'd say bad loss is apt. But I completely understand your argument too, and you do have a point, but I think it's all relative to how well the teams are playing at that point in the season.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
Golf, I think it's relative to the quality of ball you're playing at any given point of the season. So, for a team like UConn to lose to us at that point in the season, I'd say bad loss is apt. But I completely understand your argument too, and you do have a point, but I think it's all relative to how well the teams are playing at that point in the season.
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UConn was only a 2.5 point favorite :ermm:
 
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Pretty sure "bad loss" is generally based on RPI and home/away. It isn't supposed to be completely subjective, and it generally remains quite fluid since it's difficult for any one person to remember/reconstruct the season narratives for all 300+ D1 teams.

Don't see how that would be considered a bad loss. UF losing to us at O'Connell, perhaps.
 
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golfballs03 said:
he says one of UConn's bad losses is @Tennessee. That's a bad loss??
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Just like Florida's 2 losses to UT, UConn was outplayed and outclassed for 40 minutes.

Not so much a matter of by whom, but a matter of how decisively.
 
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pimo1 said:
At no point did any sane person think we were going to beat UCONN it was an upset by any definition at that point in the season. That my friend constitutes a bad loss.

If they played us today, and we won, no one would call it a bad loss. The team they played back then is not the team we have now. That win was the first glimmer of what we have now.

Now I shall proceed to step out on a whisper thin limb and say this. I hope we don't make the cut. I hope we get 2 wins in the SEC tourney and get snubbed and instead go to the NIT.

I hope this for 2 reasons. The NIT offers more chances for games to a young team. In the AA's we are most likely 1 and done the NIT we have a legit shot at moving far. Secondly getting snubbed will piss off the players and put a terrible taste in their mouths.

For the same reasons I think the UK loss in FB was a blessing in disguise (there I go out on those limbs again) I think knocking on the door but not getting into the dance will make us a much better team next season.
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Bum Phillips thought the same way when he coached the Houston Oilers and you see how many super bowls he went and played in.
 
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golfballs03 said:
he says one of UConn's bad losses is @Tennessee. That's a bad loss??
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Those bracket projections and bubble team write ups are huge. And often times, not all information is updated in a timely manner. A lot of cutting and pasting going on at this time of the year.

A "bad loss" is usually to anyone outside the RPI 100, which UT was for most of the season. UT is now solidly in the 70s, and on most sites is simply now a "loss". I am sure someone will update their site soon, they are bond to have gotten some feedback.
 
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pimo1 said:
At no point did any sane person think we were going to beat UCONN it was an upset by any definition at that point in the season. That my friend constitutes a bad loss.

If they played us today, and we won, no one would call it a bad loss. The team they played back then is not the team we have now. That win was the first glimmer of what we have now.

Now I shall proceed to step out on a whisper thin limb and say this. I hope we don't make the cut. I hope we get 2 wins in the SEC tourney and get snubbed and instead go to the NIT.

I hope this for 2 reasons. The NIT offers more chances for games to a young team. In the AA's we are most likely 1 and done the NIT we have a legit shot at moving far. Secondly getting snubbed will piss off the players and put a terrible taste in their mouths.

For the same reasons I think the UK loss in FB was a blessing in disguise (there I go out on those limbs again) I think knocking on the door but not getting into the dance will make us a much better team next season.
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What?

With this team, they can easily get a win or two in the tourney, especially with their defense.

I'll take my chances in the NCAAT, especially since it's all about matchups.
 
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pimo1 said:
At no point did any sane person think we were going to beat UCONN it was an upset by any definition at that point in the season. That my friend constitutes a bad loss.

If they played us today, and we won, no one would call it a bad loss. The team they played back then is not the team we have now. That win was the first glimmer of what we have now.

Now I shall proceed to step out on a whisper thin limb and say this. I hope we don't make the cut. I hope we get 2 wins in the SEC tourney and get snubbed and instead go to the NIT.

I hope this for 2 reasons. The NIT offers more chances for games to a young team. In the AA's we are most likely 1 and done the NIT we have a legit shot at moving far. Secondly getting snubbed will piss off the players and put a terrible taste in their mouths.

For the same reasons I think the UK loss in FB was a blessing in disguise (there I go out on those limbs again) I think knocking on the door but not getting into the dance will make us a much better team next season.
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This is now example a. When I start my "why you don't use drug" classes.

Thank you!
 
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pimo1 said:
At no point did any sane person think we were going to beat UCONN it was an upset by any definition at that point in the season. That my friend constitutes a bad loss.

If they played us today, and we won, no one would call it a bad loss. The team they played back then is not the team we have now. That win was the first glimmer of what we have now.

Now I shall proceed to step out on a whisper thin limb and say this. I hope we don't make the cut. I hope we get 2 wins in the SEC tourney and get snubbed and instead go to the NIT.

I hope this for 2 reasons. The NIT offers more chances for games to a young team. In the AA's we are most likely 1 and done the NIT we have a legit shot at moving far. Secondly getting snubbed will piss off the players and put a terrible taste in their mouths.

For the same reasons I think the UK loss in FB was a blessing in disguise (there I go out on those limbs again) I think knocking on the door but not getting into the dance will make us a much better team next season.
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As a NCAA hoops fan there is nothing as fun as doing the NCAA tournament strut for the 4-5 days from selection Sunday until your team's first game. I'll take that 4-5 day high, even with a first round loss, over a NIT deep run every time.
 
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The NIT is a clear step below the NCAA tourney in every facet. I don't think playing scrappy mid-majors and underachieving power conference teams does us any good.
Especially when comparing it to a game of national implications, that will be a national TV game. We will undoubtedly be an underdog in every game we play in the NCAA T (if we get the invite) But just being there and playing that one game would be so so much better than any other option
 
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golfballs03 said:
What? We are a bubble team and finished 2nd in the SEC. It might not be a "good loss" whatever that is, but it's not a bad loss.
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While I lean towards it not being a bad loss, you also have to look at when they lost to us. We were a bad team then.
 
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