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Yeah. We are basically considering it because they are wiping away the disposition fee (dumbest fee ever) and allow us to get in early. The Tuscon has great reviews but once you get passed the base model any price advantage seems to go away. We would keep the Santa Fe, but the plastic surround on the passenger seat breaks off (this will be the 3rd time weve had to fix it) and I'm not sure I want to buy a car that I know has a design flaw.

I have seen the Santa Fe seat issue with several of the cars that come into the dealership, but no issue with the Tucson yet.
 
#27
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Love this car. Here is my silly issue with it. Unless you get up into the expensive trim, it doesn't have satellite radio or back up camera.

Bottomline, I'm a big guy so I need to sit in each one to see how I "fit". I hate these center consoles where the shift stick is. No room for the knees. And I live in Franklin, TN btw, but thanks for the offer. Any tips you can give me to get the best price or lease, I'm down ;) We still have 2 months left on our lease but the buy back price is almost $2000 less than the trade in value, so I can't see any dealer balking at that.

The cx-5 comes pretty much standard with the back up camera now.

Yes, the Siriusxm thing is annoying. It's also an anomaly for Mazda, on the rest of Mazda's cars, if you get the Bose stereo, you get satellite. That's not the case on the cx-5. I have no idea why.

Best and easiest place to start for a great deal is truecar.com. Gives you an idea of the invoice price and let's you know what others have paid. Great consumer tool. When I'm out of the car business in a year or so, I plan to use it as my #1 resource for getting an idea on pricing.

That said, the mark up on a Mazda is pretty low. About 900-1000 on the most well equipped cx-5 and Mazda doesn't do a whole lot in the way of rebates and discounts. So don't expect anything like Chevy, dodge or Nissan, where they will discount the car by thousands with rebates. Mazda doesn't do that, and it's a good thing when it comes to resale.
 
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The cx-5 comes pretty much standard with the back up camera now.

Yes, the Siriusxm thing is annoying. It's also an anomaly for Mazda, on the rest of Mazda's cars, if you get the Bose stereo, you get satellite. That's not the case on the cx-5. I have no idea why.

Best and easiest place to start for a great deal is truecar.com. Gives you an idea of the invoice price and let's you know what others have paid. Great consumer tool. When I'm out of the car business in a year or so, I plan to use it as my #1 resource for getting an idea on pricing.

That said, the mark up on a Mazda is pretty low. About 900-1000 on the most well equipped cx-5 and Mazda doesn't do a whole lot in the way of rebates and discounts. So don't expect anything like Chevy, dodge or Nissan, where they will discount the car by thousands with rebates. Mazda doesn't do that, and it's a good thing when it comes to resale.

I've been using TrueCar alot. I looked at the CX-5 sport and the rear camera is $400 option. Which at that point, might as well pay little more and get the Touring. I wish it had SiriusXM. So since you are in "the biz", I notice that they have a lease special for zero down and $269 a month. What can we figure the actual monthly to be after any taxes? Also, how much would you think it would go up to if we went with the touring which is roughly $1500 more?
 
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I've been using TrueCar alot. I looked at the CX-5 sport and the rear camera is $400 option. Which at that point, might as well pay little more and get the Touring. I wish it had SiriusXM. So since you are in "the biz", I notice that they have a lease special for zero down and $269 a month. What can we figure the actual monthly to be after any taxes? Also, how much would you think it would go up to if we went with the touring which is roughly $1500 more?

I think most sport models you will find on a dealer's lot will already have rear view camera package. That said, it is hard to find a sport model. We don't have any at the moment.

The final monthly payment would depend on what the dealer fee is, but that would only add a few dollars a month. Then you tack on about 7% tax to each payment. So maybe about $290 or so with taxes and everything.

That final question is difficult to answer. Once you step away from the lease special things can change markedly. Also at that point the lease would be tailored to your needs. Things like mileage, and duration would affect the payment. One of the biggest factors that would change the lease payment is the residual value of the two trim levels along with the money factor. So I can't really give you a clear answer unless I sit down with my sales manager and have him compute it.
 
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I think most sport models you will find on a dealer's lot will already have rear view camera package. That said, it is hard to find a sport model. We don't have any at the moment.

The final monthly payment would depend on what the dealer fee is, but that would only add a few dollars a month. Then you tack on about 7% tax to each payment. So maybe about $290 or so with taxes and everything.

That final question is difficult to answer. Once you step away from the lease special things can change markedly. Also at that point the lease would be tailored to your needs. Things like mileage, and duration would affect the payment. One of the biggest factors that would change the lease payment is the residual value of the two trim levels along with the money factor. So I can't really give you a clear answer unless I sit down with my sales manager and have him compute it.

I really appreciate the help. I feel I'm much "smarter" now about the lease thing after our last one. We went in thinking we were doing zero down and about $300 a month and ended up putting down $1000 and a payment of $371 a month. This time we can't put anything down. I've have some pretty steep medical bills and my daughter is getting married next may, so we truly have to do zero. We have really good credit so may look at doing long term low interest loan as well.

The key for getting anything "non-hyundai" at this point is the dealer would have to pay off the lease which I know already is $16,500 (got this from a Toyota dealer. He looked at "buying" the car and eliminating the disposition and last 2 payments). The KBB trade in is anywhere from $17,500 to almost $18,000 on our car. So I would think that would be our advantage but who knows.

I really appreciate your knowledge and tips. Don't live in Knoxville but if you know of any good salesmen here in the Nashville Franklin area, let me know!
 
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I think most sport models you will find on a dealer's lot will already have rear view camera package. That said, it is hard to find a sport model. We don't have any at the moment.

The final monthly payment would depend on what the dealer fee is, but that would only add a few dollars a month. Then you tack on about 7% tax to each payment. So maybe about $290 or so with taxes and everything.

That final question is difficult to answer. Once you step away from the lease special things can change markedly. Also at that point the lease would be tailored to your needs. Things like mileage, and duration would affect the payment. One of the biggest factors that would change the lease payment is the residual value of the two trim levels along with the money factor. So I can't really give you a clear answer unless I sit down with my sales manager and have him compute it.


Hey Nerd,
Any problem areas with these things that I should look for on a used model.

Like we talked before, the budget is about 10k.
 
#34
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So thought I would just post a thread to get opinions. Looking to get a smaller SUV/Crossover like CR-V, Rav4, Tuscon, etc. Any opinions would be great.

VolTitan, I bought the wife a new Kia Sorento a couple years ago to replace her Durango (Best vehicle I ever owned, and I'm a Ford man).

The Sorento has been very reliable, thus far. Very roomy, easy to drive and economical.

Good luck with your search.
 
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Hey Nerd,
Any problem areas with these things that I should look for on a used model.

Like we talked before, the budget is about 10k.

Nothing to be nervous about with a used CX-5. I will say that a cx-5 for 10k will have a lot of miles in a short time. The first model year was 2013. So you want to look for good maintenance records.
 
#37
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Nothing to be nervous about with a used CX-5. I will say that a cx-5 for 10k will have a lot of miles in a short time. The first model year was 2013. So you want to look for good maintenance records.

Ok. Didn't realize it was that new of a model. My apologies.

Thanks nerd!

She's decided she wants a small suv. We will be paying cash to get the best " bang for our buck".

The cx-5 gives me another direction to point her to.
 
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VolTitan, I bought the wife a new Kia Sorento a couple years ago to replace her Durango (Best vehicle I ever owned, and I'm a Ford man).

The Sorento has been very reliable, thus far. Very roomy, easy to drive and economical.

Good luck with your search.

I'd never own a Kia personally. I liked my '98 Durango. The gas mileage was horrendous though.
 
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The CR-V was named 2015 Best Compact SUV for Families by U.S. News Best Cars. That site, which compiles a wide range of auto reviews, cited the CR-V's safety and reliability ratings, and its roomy interior space. Reviewers said it has more spacious rear seats than many competitors and a roomy cargo area as well.

The CR-V comes standard with a backup camera -- a crucial piece of safety equipment.

10 cars you can keep for 10 years - CBS News
 
#40
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Can't go wrong with a Honda. They certainly will last a long time. Not as fun to drive as they used to be, but that's not always a priority.
 
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all I drive now are Subarus..I have a 98 that I still drive..250k miles and everything still works, including the heated seats
 
#43
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The crv is certainly high on the list, especially if we lease. Only thing I hate about the crv, and other cars, is you can't add siriusxm. Not that I will let that keep me from buying a car, but it is a feature I would really like.

I like subarus. My wife hates them
 
#45
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The crv is certainly high on the list, especially if we lease. Only thing I hate about the crv, and other cars, is you can't add siriusxm. Not that I will let that keep me from buying a car, but it is a feature I would really like.

I like subarus. My wife hates them

I had XM/Sirius in all my Hondas, minus the Ridgeline (current vehicle).
 
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Mazda CX-5.

I am biased as I work at a Mazda dealership, but Car and Driver and Consumer Reports think very highly of them.

If you live near Knoxville, I invite you and your family over to Mazda Knoxville for a test drive. My name is Peyton. :hi:


Volwindy has one, she seems to enjoy it!

This one or the Subaru.
 
#47
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Only problem with the Subaru is that it's equipped with a CVT. Honda as well, but you at least have the option of getting a manual.

I realize CVTs are good for fuel economy, but they suck otherwise.
 
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I had XM/Sirius in all my Hondas, minus the Ridgeline (current vehicle).

I scoured the earth looking for a Ridgeline before I bought my 4Runner. I got into them right as production ended. When I could find one, the prices were just ridiculous.

I really liked them, I'm glad they're keeping the model going.
 
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You can get Sirius/XM radio but you have to get a top of the line CR-V. It's not available for the LX or EX. Only EX-L. Not even as an add-on.

You know that for less than $100 you can get an XM radio and a plug and play vehicle kit that will play via an FM transmitter in any vehicle?. I'm a complete idiot and it took me about 15 minutes to install and activate.
 

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