So between TN, Tiger High, Ole Miss, Miss St, Ark, and Mizzou…

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Here’s a hot take… most all the top athletes play basketball in Memphis. There is a LOAD of potential 4 and 5 star talent on the Bball court
 
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a total of ONE PLAYER out of Memphis was signed in this early period. Vols signed Radarius Jackson and that‘s it (believe State signed a kid out of Bartlett). How is this possible? Is coaching and/or academics that bad?
If not for the river, Memphis would be in Arkansas, a little squiggle in the line and it is in Miss. Seems it always been tough to recruit memphis, although we have got some good ones. I think Jackson beomes a star
 
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Here’s a hot take… most all the top athletes play basketball in Memphis. There is a LOAD of potential 4 and 5 star talent on the Bball court

Memphis has always had great basketball talent but there’s also been good football players too. I was shocked when I saw Tiger High signed zero players from the it’s home city and how low the number of signees were from other programs that also recruit Memphis hard.
 
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I'm all for giving Memphis to Mississippi or Arkansas
I’ve long believed ET should be a state including WNC, Upstate SC, North GA, and maybe SW VA and SE KY. We could keep Middle TN I guess. “Tennessee, the Appalachian Volunteer State”.
 
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a total of ONE PLAYER out of Memphis was signed in this early period. Vols signed Radarius Jackson and that‘s it (believe State signed a kid out of Bartlett). How is this possible? Is coaching and/or academics that bad?
Basketball is changing. It’s almost like you have to have the money to play aau, or someone has to find these kids and get them into an aau program. Gone are the days of inner city kids playing pickup and just being better than your average kid. No one plays pickup up anymore. Rec leagues have been decimated by the upward basketball crowd, who don’t believe in calling the game by the rules or keeping score. Most of the old school projects have been tore down and the kid’s dispersed, so you don’t have the athletic kids who learned to play on the playground with their uncle or cousins. The whole landscape from rec to high school basketball has just changed and not for the better.
 
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Correct! I have a cousin who is a detective there. You hit the nail on the head on all of it as far as I know second handedly. But, you would still think more than 2 players would be signed with a population of about a million people in that county.
I'm just amazed at how that level of corruption is tolerated in Tennessee. It is a culture that goes at least back to 1910 when Boss Crump was elected. Some people groups expose and remove corruption, while others embrace it and try to get a piece of the pie. I don't consider Memphis to be a part of Tennessee.
 
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I'm all for giving Memphis to Mississippi or Arkansas

As a lifelong Memphian, I’ve come to understand that sentiment with other Tennesseans. I used to always come to the city’s defense, but I simply cannot be ignorant and defend it anymore. I was born and raised for over 30 years in the suburbs, and it has always been bad in the city limits. But it’s gotten significantly worse in the last 5 years, especially since COVID. A lot of the good people that would have a hand in attempting to turn the city around are leaving. The city is at the point that it cannot be saved. I’m following them too in the near future, and I have encouraged my family members to move out of the Memphis metro as well.
 
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a total of ONE PLAYER out of Memphis was signed in this early period. Vols signed Radarius Jackson and that‘s it (believe State signed a kid out of Bartlett). How is this possible? Is coaching and/or academics that bad?
Worst city in the country to raise kids.


Education- Memphis/Shelby school district spends as much per pupil as any in the state except for Metro/Nashville and they are rated #97in the state for academic achievement.
 
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Doesn't matter. East Tennesseans hate Memphis anyway, and have low perceptions of kids from there. Maybe recruits know it and avoid the UT.
Bingo! As a Memphis native I was going to write a whole paragraph of how wrong his statement was. Memphis has the culture and being gentrified @ an alarming rate but since people only rely on the news for information they'll never really know. Corrupt police and D.A. are being investigated by T.B.I. Elon Musk has invested and bringing in other big tech companies as of yesterday's breaking news...New Jersey firm has bought 11 commercial properties in the city, Blue Oval bring constructed and changing the whole west Tennessee landscape & 2 Buccees...with FedEx, Auto Zone, and other local companies investing & renovating the Liberty Bowl which has been given to University of Memphis, why leave???
 
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If those 4-5 schools only signed two total, that is really odd.

Where did the Tiger High players come from?
 
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I live in a suburb of Memphis.
And yes, people than can afford it either move to the burbs or send their kids to private school. But I also grew up in Nashville and it was the same way there.

Crime is certainly worse in Memphis, but it’s really about knowing where not to go. Where I live, about 20 minutes outside the city, feels very similar to the suburbs in Nashville and has little crime and some of the best public schools in the state.

There’s a lot of issues in Memphis, but it is misunderstood by people who havent lived here.
I lived there for 4 years (2004-2008) and actually one of the hardest things I found was that midtown and parts of downtown were mixed with rough one steeet and next steeet over not as much. I didn’t think the “knowing where not to go” applied well there like it does in Knoxville and Nashville. Although there were obvious places (Lamar Avenue, parts of Frayser etc) to not go and obvious safer places (mostly Bartlett/Germantown) but the heart of Memphis was crack house right beside a $400K craftsmen beside crackhouse.

I was impressed with the money they were pouring into downtown back then.

I am also jaded by 1 of the 4 years I was there the chief of police celebrating it was only the 3rd worst city in the country for violent crimes per capita instead of the worst as one news report stated, filing 3 police reports (non violent crimes though) while I was there, getting punched in the face by a prisoner in the PDU of The Med, and the fact the Med was the second busiest hospital for penetrating chest and abdominal trauma in the country all 4 years I was there.

Memphis in May rocks. Memphis can be an okay place but you have to live there and know it well for it to be safe.
 
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Tennessee historically does not get a lot of kids from Memphis in any sport.

Tony Harris and Omari Thomas are notable exceptions,
 
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I haven't lived in Tennessee for more than 50 years but return to visit friends and relatives regularly and don't understand the animosity between posters from different parts of the state. I was born in West Tennessee but attended school in all three sections of the state and never had any ill feelings like those shown in this thread. Depending on the issue I've been both proud and embarrassed about events/things that happened in all parts of the state, didn't find that any division had a monopoly on intelligence, stupidity, athletic talent, crime or anything for that matter.

I encourage everyone to do a bit of introspective thought before posting.
 
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