So the committee is officially a joke

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bamawriter said:
Yeah, revenue can be shared, but you're talking about adding 12 games at the expense of 130 or more. That's a lot of lost revenue just in media rights.
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Split off into two playoffs, similar to the NIT. That's 24-48-64 games depending and would cover roughly a third of those 130 games. Again, revenue shared from all that down to Buffalo and LA Monroe. How much revenue, even media, is really lost if Buffalo or LA Monroe play two less boring games a year? How much more would be generated by a real playoff? I don't know.

The other thing is this is shared revenue, but the big boys still keep their boosters and donors and facilities and massive stadiums and what not. It's not like they are losing that much of an advantage.

Main point is we don't have a real playoff or a real national champion and the obstacles preventing aren't as tough as people make them out to be. When you have a 4 team playoff and 5 conferences, somebody is getting left out every year. Everyone understands that.

But this year they left out 2 conferences. Because of an eye test.

This isn't a playoff. This isn't a real National Championship.
 
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rjd970 said:
Split off into two playoffs, similar to the NIT. That's 24-48-64 games depending and would cover roughly a third of those 130 games.
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No one is going to fork over enough money for a tournament to declare the 33rd best team so that the revenue sharing model becomes a net positive. Particularly for the smaller conferences. The current bowl structure would be better for them.

The money simply doesn't work.
 
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rjd970 said:
Split off into two playoffs, similar to the NIT. That's 24-48-64 games depending and would cover roughly a third of those 130 games. Again, revenue shared from all that down to Buffalo and LA Monroe. How much revenue, even media, is really lost if Buffalo or LA Monroe play two less boring games a year? How much more would be generated by a real playoff? I don't know.

The other thing is this is shared revenue, but the big boys still keep their boosters and donors and facilities and massive stadiums and what not. It's not like they are losing that much of an advantage.

Main point is we don't have a real playoff or a real national champion and the obstacles preventing aren't as tough as people make them out to be. When you have a 4 team playoff and 5 conferences, somebody is getting left out every year. Everyone understands that.

But this year they left out 2 conferences. Because of an eye test.

This isn't a playoff. This isn't a real National Championship.
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Instead of a 4-team playoff, you want two 32-team playoffs? This isn't about making everyone feel included, it's really about finding the two best teams and having them play each other. Expanding to 4 was just adding margin for error. We've expanded enough; in past years the #3 team (USC, Auburn) may have had a claim to be the best team in the country, but the current #5 sure as hell doesn't. And that's what this is about.
 
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First people argued about whether we had the correct #2. Now it's whether we have the right #4. If we have a 32-team playoff, people will just argue about #32 vs. #33 and say we should expand to 64. It's going to happen no matter what the number is.
 
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NashVol11 said:
First people argued about whether we had the correct #2. Now it's whether we have the right #4. If we have a 32-team playoff, people will just argue about #32 vs. #33 and say we should expand to 64. It's going to happen no matter what the number is.
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I thought I was the only one that thought like the above two posts. I feel so much better.

In the playoff, it only matters that you get the right #1. You have 4 chances to get the right #1 in there. The playoffs don't really tell you who is #2 or 3.

No matter how many teams are in, the sports media is going to need to kill some time talking about how teams #33 and #34 "deserve a shot" at being killed by the real #1. ESPN is on 24 hours a day, they gotta talk about something.
 
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rjd970 said:
Split off into two playoffs, similar to the NIT. That's 24-48-64 games depending and would cover roughly a third of those 130 games. Again, revenue shared from all that down to Buffalo and LA Monroe. How much revenue, even media, is really lost if Buffalo or LA Monroe play two less boring games a year? How much more would be generated by a real playoff? I don't know.

The other thing is this is shared revenue, but the big boys still keep their boosters and donors and facilities and massive stadiums and what not. It's not like they are losing that much of an advantage.

Main point is we don't have a real playoff or a real national champion and the obstacles preventing aren't as tough as people make them out to be. When you have a 4 team playoff and 5 conferences, somebody is getting left out every year. Everyone understands that.

But this year they left out 2 conferences. Because of an eye test.

This isn't a playoff. This isn't a real National Championship.
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Eh, a playoff doesn’t necessarily mean a real champion either. I love college football because of the regular season means so much. Now you can lose 1 maybe 2 games but that is it. When you expand to many teams, then it doesn’t matter if you lose 4-5 maybe more. When you make a large tournament, you win a tournament championship, not a true yearly championship.
 
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thehill98 said:
Eh, a playoff doesn’t necessarily mean a real champion either. I love college football because of the regular season means so much. Now you can lose 1 maybe 2 games but that is it. When you expand to many teams, then it doesn’t matter if you lose 4-5 maybe more. When you make a large tournament, you win a tournament championship, not a true yearly championship.
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All I heard when people wanted a playoff was "let them play it on the field, not the polls". So what did they do? Put a team in that didnt play it on the field but was high in the polls.

Beyond stupid
 
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GreveHaller said:
All I heard when people wanted a playoff was "let them play it on the field, not the polls". So what did they do? Put a team in that didnt play it on the field but was high in the polls.

Beyond stupid
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Obviously, 45-7 didn't get your attention. Honestly, putting 80 points on the vols just wasn't a good look, you know?
 
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TUSKtimes said:
Obviously, 45-7 didn't get your attention. Honestly, putting 80 points on the vols just wasn't a good look, you know?
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They could have put up 800 but it doesn't matter. I guess you missed the game where auburn beat bama and kept them from winning the division as well as the conference

Beyond stupid v.2
 
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GreveHaller said:
They could have put up 800 but it doesn't matter. I guess you missed the game where auburn beat bama and kept them from winning the division as well as the conference

Beyond stupid v.2
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So did Ohio State, it's the 4 BEST teams. It's an amazingly simple concept that is truly giving Bama haters a hard time.

What a human thing to do.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
So did Ohio State, it's the 4 BEST teams. It's an amazingly simple concept that is truly giving Bama haters a hard time.

What a human thing to do.
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Is Bama better than Ohio State though? They deserve to be in over OSU imo but we will never know who’s “better”.
 
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UTK said:
Is Bama better than Ohio State though? They deserve to be in over OSU imo but we will never know who’s “better”.
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The barners crushed the dawgs. The dawgs, 3 weeks later, crushed the barners. Who has the best team?

You are overthinking it.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
The barners crushed the dawgs. The dawgs, 3 weeks later, crushed the barners. Who has the best team?

You are overthinking it.
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UGA because they have one loss compared to Aubruns 3. That much is simple.
 
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GreveHaller said:
why 2 at large? that's no different than this year's 3 conf champions + 1 at large
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It allows all 5 conference champ to be in. Gives the smaller schools a chance. Then 2 at large is plenty fair to me. You want in for sure? Win your damn conference championship first. No guarantees if not. That’s how it should be imo.
 
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#246
If UCF wins this game I think they got screwed. Just proves we need to go to a 8 team model. 5 conference champions and 3 at large.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Because they beat the 3rd best team in the SEC?
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Because they could beat the team that beat both UGA and Bama. Sure UGA won the second time, but Auburn beat two #1’s this season and two teams in the playoffs.

Also because they are, you know, undefeated. How many other teams did that this year? And sure, their conference is the greatest, but they took care of business and steamrolled almost every team they played in the regular season.

Saying they don’t have at least have a legitimate argument is short sighted just because they are “UCF”. These guys can play and are currently up against a legit SEC team.
 
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rjd970 said:
If UCF wins this game I think they got screwed. Just proves we need to go to a 8 team model. 5 conference champions and 3 at large.
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UCF still wouldn’t have gotten in in your scenario.

Unless you require one of the at larges to be the highest non P5 team in the rankings.
 
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volfanngatorland said:
UCF still wouldn’t have gotten in in your scenario.

Unless you require one of the at larges to be the highest non P5 team in the rankings.
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I go back to my original argument in this thread. If true, and UCF still didn’t earn the right, then this isn’t a true playoff. It means only 40-50 teams are eligible no matter what. Why even have the G5 teams in DivI?

Haters will hate, but UCF is legit. LEGIT.
 
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