So which team/teams get left out of the playoffs?

#1
B

Bassplayer30074

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 10, 2017
Messages
216
Likes
317
#1
I see the seeding going like this,
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Texas/Georgia/Alabama
4. Florida State

I’m aware I may catch grief over Fla St due to QB injuries, but how do you leave an undefeated P5 out over 1 loss P5? The arguments can be made in all directions. Glad it’s not up to me to decide. This scenario further proves the need for the expanded playoff.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mocvol83, NighthawkVol, Dadof2volfans and 4 others
#2
#2
who gets left out may affect those teams future out of conference scheduling....

www.on3.com

Alabama AD Greg Byrne sends message to College Football Playoff committee on nonconference scheduling

Alabama athletic director Greg Byrne had an interesting take on how the nonconference schedule affects its College Football Playoff chances.
www.on3.com www.on3.com

If both teams win, there’s a possibility that Alabama could still end up getting left out despite its SEC title victory. Byrne explained Saturday that could deter the Crimson Tide from scheduling nonconference Power 5 opponents in the future.

“If we would have played a Group of Five game instead it Texas, there’d be no debate right now,” Bryne said according to Nick Kelly of the Tuscaloosa News."
 
  • Like
Reactions: savannahfan
#6
#6
Bassplayer30074 said:
I see the seeding going like this,
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Texas/Georgia/Alabama
4. Florida State

I’m aware I may catch grief over Fla St due to QB injuries, but how do you leave an undefeated P5 out over 1 loss P5? The arguments can be made in all directions. Glad it’s not up to me to decide. This scenario further proves the need for the expanded playoff.
Click to expand...
Or if Michigan and Washington are clearly the two best teams, it might be a good argument for the BCS.

I mean I don't really want to go back, but it'd be less melodrama.
 
  • Like
Reactions: VAVol85, livefaith and DuckinVol
#7
#7
jmacvols1 said:
who gets left out may affect those teams future out of conference scheduling....

www.on3.com

Alabama AD Greg Byrne sends message to College Football Playoff committee on nonconference scheduling

Alabama athletic director Greg Byrne had an interesting take on how the nonconference schedule affects its College Football Playoff chances.
www.on3.com www.on3.com

If both teams win, there’s a possibility that Alabama could still end up getting left out despite its SEC title victory. Byrne explained Saturday that could deter the Crimson Tide from scheduling nonconference Power 5 opponents in the future.

“If we would have played a Group of Five game instead it Texas, there’d be no debate right now,” Bryne said according to Nick Kelly of the Tuscaloosa News."
Click to expand...

Too funny as the team Bama scheduled will be in the SEC next year along with Oklahoma who I believe Bama will have to play.

FSU also scheduled a strong team out of conference, LSU, and beat them. Tennessee has over the years schedules strong out of conference teams like Oklahoma and Oregon has had Florida.

And last year Bama was trying to use that Texas win as a reason WHY they should be in the playoff after losing to TN and LSU. You can't have it both ways.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Post4Vols, Delmar, Shocker0 and 15 others
#9
#9
jmacvols1 said:
who gets left out may affect those teams future out of conference scheduling....

www.on3.com

Alabama AD Greg Byrne sends message to College Football Playoff committee on nonconference scheduling

Alabama athletic director Greg Byrne had an interesting take on how the nonconference schedule affects its College Football Playoff chances.
www.on3.com www.on3.com

If both teams win, there’s a possibility that Alabama could still end up getting left out despite its SEC title victory. Byrne explained Saturday that could deter the Crimson Tide from scheduling nonconference Power 5 opponents in the future.

“If we would have played a Group of Five game instead it Texas, there’d be no debate right now,” Bryne said according to Nick Kelly of the Tuscaloosa News."
Click to expand...

Which I mean, makes sense. But you don't get any more credit for losing those games than Georgia did for winning the cupcake games. What would have been ideal was for Bama to win that game, but they didn't.

I admire teams like Bama or FSU who scheduled OOC opponents who were highly ranked and a challenge. I think that should hold weight, and if FSU wasn't undefeated, I'd say Bama should be in. But they aren't.

But had Georgia actually scheduled someone they wouldn't have fallen so far when they did suffer a loss. At no point did Georgia prove they were the number 1 team in the country.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Smokey19rt, Vol in Buckeye Land and TN1111
#10
#10
GordonC said:
Or if Michigan and Washington are clearly the two best teams, it might be a good argument for the BCS.

I mean I don't really want to go back, but it'd be less melodrama.
Click to expand...
You’d still have just as much drama in that scenario because you’d have to leave out 13-0 ACC conference champion FSU. This is basically the same scenario that Auburn faced in 2004 when being left out in favor of USC and Oklahoma.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Smokey19rt
#12
#12
You MUST base it on what they did on the field and not how you feel. Why even play the games if they dont matter? Much is being made of FSU beating UL with an anemic offense. That is true, but they did beat them by 10 using their 3rd team QB. That is considerably more impressive than the embarrassing performance Bama had just the week prior against a bottom feeding SEC team.

FSU will have their 2nd team QB in the playoffs.

Here's how I would rank them:

Michigan, Washington, FSU and Texas.

You shouldn't put Bama over Texas because they lost at home to them. Plus, when the final rankings are released, Texas will have the best win of any of the top teams (assuming Bama is ranked ahead of UGA).
 
  • Like
Reactions: mercuryvol, Shocker0, volncleveland and 19 others
#13
#13
DeadByDaylightFan said:
FSU looks horrible. Letting them into the playoff with that garbage QB would be a travesty
Click to expand...

One week ago, Bama looked horrible and took a 4th goal miracle to win. FSU will get their 2nd string QB back for the bowl games, so they will be a significantly better team than the one who took the field and won a conference championship tonight. I think you have to value the fact that they won every game and a championship over Bama/SEC (which statistically had a down year).
 
  • Like
Reactions: SAPPER 5, titansvolsfaninga, hillsborovol and 1 other person
#14
#14
hillsborovol said:
You MUST base it on what they did on the field and not how you feel. Why even play the games if they dont matter? Much is being made of FSU beating UL with an anemic offense. That is true, but they did beat them by 10 using their 3rd team QB. That is considerably more impressive than the embarrassing performance Bama had just the week prior against a bottom feeding SEC team.

FSU will have their 2nd team QB in the playoffs.

Here's how I would rank them:

Michigan, Washington, FSU and Texas.

You shouldn't put Bama over Texas because they lost at home to them. Plus, when the final rankings are released, Texas will have the best win of any of the top teams (assuming Bama is ranked ahead of UGA).
Click to expand...
And the worst loss
 
#15
#15
hillsborovol said:
You MUST base it on what they did on the field and not how you feel. Why even play the games if they dont matter? Much is being made of FSU beating UL with an anemic offense. That is true, but they did beat them by 10 using their 3rd team QB. That is considerably more impressive than the embarrassing performance Bama had just the week prior against a bottom feeding SEC team.

FSU will have their 2nd team QB in the playoffs.

Here's how I would rank them:

Michigan, Washington, FSU and Texas.

You shouldn't put Bama over Texas because they lost at home to them. Plus, when the final rankings are released, Texas will have the best win of any of the top teams (assuming Bama is ranked ahead of UGA).
Click to expand...
Bama will still have the best win. You go by what the opponent is ranked going into the game, not what they are ranked once it’s over. Otherwise, you are basically penalizing Alabama for beating UGA and knocking them down in the rankings. It’s tough to beat a win over an undefeated, two time defending National Championship team in your conference championship game.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Illinoisvolfan2
#17
#17
If I were picking, I'd pick Michigan vs Alabama and Washington vs Texas for my semi-finals. FSU's schedule was nowhere near the others teams at the top, and they're short their bigtime QB. Bammer had a close rivalry game, yes, but then they went and beat the 2 time champs for an SEC Title, so I'm not concerned about the Auburn thing.

Actually, no, strike that - if I were really picking, I'd pick Michigan vs Alabama and Georgia vs Texas. I'm pretty sure Georgia is a better team than Washington or FSU, and their only loss was to another top 5-ish team. FSU, again, no QB and softer schedule. But I'm not, so I can't put UGA back in.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nationdom
#18
#18
Bassplayer30074 said:
I see the seeding going like this,
1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Texas/Georgia/Alabama
4. Florida State

I’m aware I may catch grief over Fla St due to QB injuries, but how do you leave an undefeated P5 out over 1 loss P5? The arguments can be made in all directions. Glad it’s not up to me to decide. This scenario further proves the need for the expanded playoff.
Click to expand...
Bet some people kinda wish computers were somehow involved for the plausible deniability claim. I bet there’s going to be some nervous committee members!
 
  • Like
Reactions: crnanancy, norrislakevol and Raebo
#21
#21
Carp said:
Winning games has got to mean something. I don't care if they are ****** without Travis. They are undefeated. So they go.
Click to expand...
sorry but that just makes no sense when they suck ass and clearly will get drilled by any team they play
 
#22
#22
Should history play in this?

Remember when LSU beat Bama in the regular season but the BCS made them rematch in the NC game and Bama won? Was that the year everyone outside of the SEC was crying saying Ohio State should be in it?

The worst thing that could happen is the committee placing another TCU type team in there-Bama or Florida St-and they get hammered. I’m not convinced that Bama would beat Georgia again, similar to the playoffs a few years ago.
 
#23
#23
Georgia’s likely playing in the Orange Bowl vs Louisville now.

It’s likely that Michigan and Washington are in. As an undefeated Power 5 school, Florida State will likely also be in barring a massive reshuffling of the rankings.

It pretty much comes down to Texas and Alabama (2 1-loss conference champions who played each other this season), and I’d have a hard time seeing that result not count in the committee’s decision given how they have kept Texas ranked ahead of Alabama from the initial CFP rankings in week 10 through this week.
 
  • Like
Reactions: norrislakevol, Easyriders and VOLfrombama
#24
#24
Carp said:
Winning games has got to mean something. I don't care if they are ****** without Travis. They are undefeated. So they go.
Click to expand...
Exactly…Most believe we were good enough to win the National Championship in 2001 and then lost in the SEC title game. We didn’t deserve a “2nd chance” just because we had been good enough to win the previous games.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jaybird_1981
#25
#25
#1fulmerite said:
Should history play in this?

Remember when LSU beat Bama in the regular season but the BCS made them rematch in the NC game and Bama won? Was that the year everyone outside of the SEC was crying saying Ohio State should be in it?

The worst thing that could happen is the committee placing another TCU type team in there-Bama or Florida St-and they get hammered. I’m not convinced that Bama would beat Georgia again, similar to the playoffs a few years ago.
Click to expand...
No, Ohio State was 6-6 in 2011.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top