Some excellent quotes from today's tea party in Boston

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Just to lighten the mood, I think this is something we can all laugh at (disclaimer: not taken at today's tea party):

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Some people just don't get it! Hahaha.
 
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I'm sorry............................. though if you moved up there you would have a bunch of gov't assistance winos all around you.
 
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droski said:
thank you very much for proving my point. sales tax in tenn is 7%. even if you spent your entire 45K at the highest rate that amounts to $3,150. Not nearly enough to pay for one kid, let alone two. edit: according to the internet per pupil tenn spent $7,129. So SOMEONE ELSE is forking over the extra 11K for YOUR KIDS. Seem fair to you?
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You proved very little.... A sales tax is a flat tax. Across the board everybody pays the same percentage.... That's a very conservative idea.... So if you're upset at the fact that the lower to lower middle class can't pay the same amount in terms of actual dollars, then you are soooooooooooooo far right it's not even funny.
Not even the most conservative person in Washington would suggest a sales tax isn't fair since everybody is paying the same percentage.
I'm trying to figure you out Droski. In terms of social issues, you seem pretty far left. Let people choose. But with econmics you seem really far right. Let people choose.
You just want no government at all... Not many like you. Bravo for being original.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
You proved very little.... A sales tax is a flat tax. Across the board everybody pays the same percentage.... That's a very conservative idea.... So if you're upset at the fact that the lower to lower middle class can't pay the same amount in terms of actual dollars, then you are soooooooooooooo far right it's not even funny.
Not even the most conservative person in Washington would suggest a sales tax isn't fair since everybody is paying the same percentage.
I'm trying to figure you out Droski. In terms of social issues, you seem pretty far left. Let people choose. But with econmics you seem really far right. Let people choose.
You just want no government at all... Not many like you. Bravo for being original.
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I hate to speak for someone else but I think his point was that regardless of the nature of sales tax, the amount you pay (and is funneled to pay for education) is less than the amount of benefits you get from public education. As a result, that shortfall has to be made up by someone else. Thus, you are receiving a net benefit while someone else is getting a net loss.

The fundamental question about fairness revolves around these issues. It could be argued that a net loser actually has less loss because there are societal costs of having a significant portion of the population uneducated. In direct costs and benefits though we see a large portion of benefits for some paid by others.
 
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volinbham said:
I hate to speak for someone else but I think his point was that regardless of the nature of sales tax, the amount you pay (and is funneled to pay for education) is less than the amount of benefits you get from public education. As a result, that shortfall has to be made up by someone else. Thus, you are receiving a net benefit while someone else is getting a net loss.

The fundamental question about fairness revolves around these issues. It could be argued that a net loser actually has less loss because there are societal costs of having a significant portion of the population uneducated. In direct costs and benefits though we see a large portion of benefits for some paid by others.
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Ding, ding, ding..... we have a winner!
 
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volinbham said:
I hate to speak for someone else but I think his point was that regardless of the nature of sales tax, the amount you pay (and is funneled to pay for education) is less than the amount of benefits you get from public education. As a result, that shortfall has to be made up by someone else. Thus, you are receiving a net benefit while someone else is getting a net loss.

The fundamental question about fairness revolves around these issues. It could be argued that a net loser actually has less loss because there are societal costs of having a significant portion of the population uneducated. In direct costs and benefits though we see a large portion of benefits for some paid by others.
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well, that just flew about 40 feet over his head.....well said B
 
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OK, fair enough... So pray tell then how should the poor to lower middle class pay for schooling???

It's a burden I can't wait to have.

And T-town with another insult.... Is that all you ever do when people disagree with you. Not very southern baptist of you
 
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Cash Vallin said:
OK, fair enough... So pray tell then how should the poor to lower middle class pay for schooling???
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As I indicated earlier, some is civic duty; some is indirect benefits from having a better educated nation/workforce.

However, the crux of the issue is that this same argument you are using is being used to expand the direct funding of a whole host of net benefits for a growing proportion of the population.

It is not sustainable.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
OK, fair enough... So pray tell then how should the poor to lower middle class pay for schooling???

It's a burden I can't wait to have.

And T-town with another insult.... Is that all you ever do when people disagree with you. Not very southern baptist of you
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what you throw out is not "disagreement" it is ignorance
nice comeback on the church thing though.....is that supposed to make me feel bad?
 
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Cash Vallin said:
Not true... I now have more in my paycheck after Obama took over. He lowered taxes for the lower to middle class.

Now, if you're rich, yes you pay more.
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Don't be silly. This is one of his biggest scams. Have you done your taxes. All Obama did was reduce your withholding rate to give you more bring home pay. Then, when you get your W-2, you find that you only paid in $1000 on a salary that historically withheld close to $4000, and now you owe Uncle Sam some money because your actual tax bracket did not change. Total BS. BS idea, BS prez.
 
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GVF said:
Don't be silly. This is one of his biggest scams. Have you done your taxes. All Obama did was reduce your withholding rate to give you more bring home pay. Then, when you get your W-2, you find that you only paid in $1000 on a salary that historically withheld close to $4000, and now you owe Uncle Sam some money because your actual tax bracket did not change. Total BS. BS idea, BS prez.
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When my W2 came, I didn't owe Uncle Sam money. He owed me some (I know that will make everybody mad her).. Again, I'm better off with Obama in office.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
When my W2 came, I didn't owe Uncle Sam money. He owed me some (I know that will make everybody mad her).. Again, I'm better off with Obama in office.
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"He" owed you money only because you over paid in the first place. How long will it take you to understand that you are only getting "your" money back that you lent to Uncle Sam at 0% intrest? Uncle Sam gave you absolutely nothing! geez!
 
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Oldvol75 said:
"He" owed you money only because you over paid in the first place. How long will it take you to understand that you are only getting "your" money back that you lent to Uncle Sam at 0% intrest? Uncle Sam gave you absolutely nothing! geez!
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Who knows, he may have received an Earned Income Tax Credit. If so, Uncle Sam would be giving him something, but that had nothing to do with Obama's policies (although it could be argued that the Stimulus' making work pay credit allows people eligible for the EITC to get more).
 
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paul1454 said:
Who knows, he may have received an Earned Income Tax Credit. If so, Uncle Sam would be giving him something, but that had nothing to do with Obama's policies (although it could be argued that the Stimulus' making work pay credit allows people eligible for the EITC to get more).
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Thats possible, but as a general rule, overpaying is the usual way.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
When my W2 came, I didn't owe Uncle Sam money. He owed me some (I know that will make everybody mad her).. Again, I'm better off with Obama in office.
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Talk to a CPA, they can help you plan your deductions better and the government will not get your money interest free for months.
 
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