Some excellent quotes from today's tea party in Boston

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#151
g8terh8ter_eric said:
The problem is, his bills and policies won't go into effect, for the most part, until someone else is in office. Then, people will try to blame the current president for it. It's a vicious cycle, and one that people don't follow. It's easier to blame who is in office at the time for most people who follow things like this, when it's clearly not their fault.
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just like Obama takes credit for tarp the next few Presidents will take blame for his policies
 
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droski said:
we do need our ditch diggers certainly. and yes not everyone can make above the median household income. 50% can't. hence the term median. but the question is why you seem to think those that have been successful in life should have to support you?
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I'm not successful now because I'm a democrat. Look, I've seen first hand what these social programs can do. My parents didn't have much and had to rely on government assistance. Because of that, they were able to provide me with a lot of things I wouldn't have gotten without it. It gave me a head start, and helped me get in the position I'm in today.
I'm sorry if you think that's a burden for the rich. I for one, don't. When I get in the position of making more money (which I will because i'm still a young professional, I'll gladly pay more in taxes) But there are positives out there with these programs. Not everybody who needs government assistance is a bad person.
 
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#155
VolInMn said:
1) Save this thread
2) Wait till 2012
3) Let's talk

:)
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the only way Teleprompter Jesus wins in 2012 is if the GOP takes at least one house of Congress this fall. A split government is the only thing that kept Clinton from being a one-term President.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
I'm not successful now because I'm a democrat. Look, I've seen first hand what these social programs can do. My parents didn't have much and had to rely on government assistance. Because of that, they were able to provide me with a lot of things I wouldn't have gotten without it. It gave me a head start, and helped me get in the position I'm in today.
I'm sorry if you think that's a burden for the rich. I for one, don't. When I get in the position of making more money (which I will because i'm still a young professional, I'll gladly pay more in taxes) But there are positives out there with these programs. Not everybody who needs government assistance is a bad person.
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i'm not talking about your sob story 10 years ago. TODAY. why should i be supporting you TODAY? i guarantee you i'm not overflowing with money. the taxes i pay are not the difference between me having lobster or steak for dinner. we'll see how much you support paying these taxes when you work for 5 months before you get a dime of your own.
 
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#157
Hell, you guys can't even agree on a candidate to run against him.

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:p
 
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#158
that is an excellent point. the only way the gop loses is if they can't put a guy with a pulse up there or sarah palin.
 
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droski said:
i'm not talking about your sob story 10 years ago. TODAY. why should i be supporting you TODAY? i guarantee you i'm not overflowing with money. the taxes i pay are not the difference between me having lobster or steak for dinner. we'll see how much you support paying these taxes when you work for 5 months before you get a dime of your own.
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I know your making a point here bro, but you are being somewhat harsh with him. Just saying. :)
 
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droski said:
i'm not talking about your sob story 10 years ago. TODAY. why should i be supporting you TODAY? i guarantee you i'm not overflowing with money. the taxes i pay are not the difference between me having lobster or steak for dinner. we'll see how much you support paying these taxes when you work for 5 months before you get a dime of your own.
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You're not supporting me... If i was poorer, should you could make that claim. 99.9999 percent of what I spend is from money I earn. Get off your high horse.

And my parent's story is a SOB story because it worked. If it didn't work, you'd be screaming at government programs not working. There is such a contradiction from you, it's not even funny.

And when I make more money, I'll gladly pay my taxes. If I can survive off of 45,000, I'm pretty sure I can survive off of 60,000 with a higher tax rate. Just depends on perspective, I suppose.
 
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#161
sweet jesus. you just don't get it. how much do you think your two kids cost just by themselves to go to public school? that BY ITSELF is more than you pay in taxes. and let's not forget the 1K in tax credits you are getting for procreating.
 
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droski said:
sweet jesus. you just don't get it. how much do you think your two kids cost just by themselves to go to public school? that BY ITSELF is more than you pay in taxes. and let's not forget the 1K in tax credits you are getting for procreating.
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sales tax is what largely supports schools in tennessee
 
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droski said:
sweet jesus. you just don't get it. how much do you think your two kids cost just by themselves to go to public school? that BY ITSELF is more than you pay in taxes. and let's not forget the 1K in tax credits you are getting for procreating.
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and sweet jesus, you just don't get it either. When I make more money, I'll gladly pay my share in taxes. That's where we differ. I don't make above the median household income because I'm YOUNG... When I'm older and richer, my beliefs won't change. There's too many success stories of the rich having such a "burden."
 
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In addition to what droski said:

Just because you don't pay taxes, doesn't mean federal revenue doesn't need to be raised. Taxes have to compensate for the amount you don't pay. This means higher taxes for those that do pay. This is called a tax expenditure (usually brought up when talking about deductions). You not paying taxes is essentially the same and those who do pay giving you a check for your share that is, in turn, ultimately remitted to the government.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
and sweet jesus, you just don't get it either. When I make more money, I'll gladly pay my share in taxes. That's where we differ. I don't make above the median household income because I'm YOUNG... When I'm older and richer, my beliefs won't change. There's too many success stories of the rich having such a "burden."
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what percentage of your income do you consider a "fair share"?
 
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Cash Vallin said:
sales tax is what largely supports schools in tennessee
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thank you very much for proving my point. sales tax in tenn is 7%. even if you spent your entire 45K at the highest rate that amounts to $3,150. Not nearly enough to pay for one kid, let alone two. edit: according to the internet per pupil tenn spent $7,129. So SOMEONE ELSE is forking over the extra 11K for YOUR KIDS. Seem fair to you?
 
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#167
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droski said:
sweet jesus. you just don't get it. how much do you think your two kids cost just by themselves to go to public school? that BY ITSELF is more than you pay in taxes. and let's not forget the 1K in tax credits you are getting for procreating.
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and fyi... you have no clue how old my kids are or to as to why my wife doesn't work. But just so you know, the two topics aren't unrelated.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
sales tax is what largely supports schools in tennessee
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I think that the numbers are something close to 90% of primary and secondary education funding comes from the local and state level.

The next question one would need to ask whether one is a net provider or a net consumer of tax funds when kids through public education would be: do I consume more or less than the average consumer. And, not even really that....do I consume enough such that 10% of that would be enough to fund my children through school for a year?
 
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droski said:
thank you very much for proving my point. sales tax in tenn is 7%. even if you spent your entire 45K at the highest rate that amounts to $3,150. Not nearly enough to pay for one kid, let alone two.
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Does that mean a couple with no children should get a tax break since they're not burdening the school system?
 
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VolInMn said:
Does that mean a couple with no children should get a tax break since they're not burdening the school system?
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of course they should. just like people who put their kids in private schools should be getting vouchers.
 
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droski said:
thank you very much for proving my point. sales tax in tenn is 7%. even if you spent your entire 45K at the highest rate that amounts to $3,150. Not nearly enough to pay for one kid, let alone two. edit: according to the internet per pupil tenn spent $7,129. So SOMEONE ELSE is forking over the extra 11K for YOUR KIDS. Seem fair to you?
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Considering my kids aren't old enough to be in school, I could care less about how much you pay. Isn't that the republican way, cover your own hide first????

And is it fair for somebody at McDonald's to make minimum wage while the CEO makes millions upon millions. Seems pretty unethical to me.
 
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VolInMn said:
Does that mean a couple with no children should get a tax break since they're not burdening the school system?
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Absolutely not. Mainly because, if they do have children late on, they still don't pay enough to send them through, the community and state do. No one couple could shoulder the true burden of sending a kid to school for 13 years of their life, and make 50K a year during that time.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
And is it fair for somebody at McDonald's to make minimum wage while the CEO makes millions upon millions. Seems pretty unethical to me.
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of course it's fair. one CEO is worth millions more than one burger flipper. do you think it's luck that one person is flipping burgers and the other is running a billion $$$ business?
 
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Cash Vallin said:
Considering my kids aren't old enough to be in school, I could care less about how much you pay. Isn't that the republican way, cover your own hide first????

And is it fair for somebody at McDonald's to make minimum wage while the CEO makes millions upon millions. Seems pretty unethical to me.
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Solid.
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