Something nefarious going on with officials if what these guys say…

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Refs are the weak spot when it comes to potential gambling interference. They are easiest path if you want to control the outcome of a game. Every time they huddle to talk about a call, I jokingly say to my son they are discussing how much money is at stake. Unfortunately, that could very well be the case. I guarantee you the mob's fingerprints are all over the legalized sports gambling that is now being allowed.
 
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OrangeInKy said:
I have it on good authority that two officials last week were Florida grads and the other one is a grad assistant at Florida and Billy Napiers brother.
Tomorrows ref crew all live in Tuscaloosa and are Bear Bryant’s grandsons. It’s so wrong.
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OrangeInKy said:
I have it on good authority that two officials last week were Florida grads and the other one is a grad assistant at Florida and Billy Napiers brother.
Tomorrow’s eard eref crew all live in Tuscaloosa and are Bear Bryant’s grandsons. It’s so wrong.
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Heard this guy was the referee
 
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MontyPython said:
SMH. Had to look it up.

You are correct. Only 1 penalty called against Bama last year... a 5 yarder. 8 against us.

The ****.
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Conversely Alabama had 17, yes 17 penalties for 130 yards called against them in the 2022 TSIO game.

Sounds like it balanced out and thankfully we are at home again this year.
 
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SteensVol said:
I was at Alabama game last year. It was very obvious! Guy raised his pinky over his shoulder pads we get the ball at the 5, they get a punt to midfield then wrap arms around our D’s neck while they hit a 50 yd td throw. Just wrong! Wrong! Wrong! It was some holding calls which killed our drives in 1st half against UF. Go look at tape they were holding almost exactly and no flags.

Not only Tennessee that Birmingham is trying to keep down but some other teams as well. Really starting to believe ACC has hand delivered 2 games to Miami this year!!

How are these officials vetted - need to be paid hired and vetted by other than conference offices! When can this please be rectified!!!
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I was there too. They were holding us on almost every play. It was hard to watch at times
 
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We have never lost a game in any sport without refs making bad calls against. We have never lost a recruit that we "wanted" unless another school paid them, they had people forcing them to go to a school even though they wanted to come here, or else we backed off of them. Every other team's player is a thug but our players just make youthful mistakes. Every other coach is a piece of crap, but ours is the second coming of Christ...until they lose a few games, then they quit on the job and just want to collect a check. Other fans are pieces of trash, but ours are just misunderstood or angry at those cheating refs per the first point above.

Edit - And I should add. The above makes us like probably every other fan base in America...:)
 
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SteensVol said:
I was at Alabama game last year. It was very obvious! Guy raised his pinky over his shoulder pads we get the ball at the 5, they get a punt to midfield then wrap arms around our D’s neck while they hit a 50 yd td throw. Just wrong! Wrong! Wrong! It was some holding calls which killed our drives in 1st half against UF. Go look at tape they were holding almost exactly and no flags.

Not only Tennessee that Birmingham is trying to keep down but some other teams as well. Really starting to believe ACC has hand delivered 2 games to Miami this year!!

How are these officials vetted - need to be paid hired and vetted by other than conference offices! When can this please be rectified!!!
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The Alabama game last year was the worst. So let’s say a front line guy on a frigging kickoff raises his hand, we still get the ball on the 25. We probably win with good officiating and hype doesn’t go for it on 4th down
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
We’ve been such a threat to college football for the last 20 years. Of course the refs have to hold us down…..you guys sound ridiculous. Was 9/11 an inside job?
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9/11 saw planes fly inside of the World Trade Center. I guess you could call it that..

I don’t see how you draw a correlation between fixing games to terrorism. But we’re ridiculous, so I look forward to your logical connection.
 
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It's only going to get worse. It's got gambling money behind it. IT's funny in a way. People lose their minds on the bad calls that were "bought" with the very dollars they put down on the game. It's a vicious spiral that will just keep growing.
 
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I tend to believe Uncle Lou that the refs are just crappy this year. A lot of mistakes going on across the league. The worse was South Carolina vs. LSU.

I did see on a few occasions (notable Alabama vs. Georgia) where they made a bad call and then had the next questionable play go for the other team to keep it fair. I was told this reffing basketball. If you go with Team A after one questionable call, go with Team B the next time to keep it fair.

To me, CFB needs to re-evaluate some of its rules. Holding needs to change up. Move it to a 5 yard penalty and put more clear definition on holding to where it is grabbing the person and not just grabbing jerseys.
 
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IN THEORY, the calls should balance out due to human effort / honest error. But the patterns I’ve noticed when playing Alabama is “situational penalties”. Sure, Bama will get a PI call when leading by 21 late in the 3rd. A holding call when leading by 17 early in the 4th. These types of calls balance stats out in the end. But watch drive killing (Bama’s opponents) penalties or drive sustaining penalties for Bama in this game. Been watching this matchup for 40 years and unless UT dominates the game it SEEMS UT has to overcome “penalties of convenience” for Bama.
 
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General Jack said:
Conversely Alabama had 17, yes 17 penalties for 130 yards called against them in the 2022 TSIO game.

Sounds like it balanced out and thankfully we are at home again this year.
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11 or 12 of those were pre-snap with the bulk being false starts from the crowd noise.
 
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OP point, I agree that the officials can substantially impact a game. It seemed most apparent, even blatant, in pro football. I will not wager on pro football unless you can track the officiating team. One judgement call can change the outcome of the game and has happened many times.
 
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DonDiego said:
The problem with this logic lies in perspective. Every team has fans who can go in and analyze the officiating and point out how their team was screwed. Officials are human, so in that sense, we're all screwed. The thing that works in sports is, even if the officials screwed up in a call against you, they'll balance it out with a screw up on the call against your opponent. That's how it works in life. Grow up or show some real proof of cheating.
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The reason for the thread is to simply call out the quantifiable imbalance in live ball infractions called against the Vols vs. their opponents during a recent period. It doesn’t take a grownup to see the disparity. Now, why the disparity exists is another subject altogether.

BTW, thanks for reminding us that officials are human. I grew up hearing folks refer to them as zebras! That always had me confused!
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
We’ve been such a threat to college football for the last 20 years. Of course the refs have to hold us down…..you guys sound ridiculous. Was 9/11 an inside job?
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It doesn't matter why they are doing it, it matters that they are doing it.

Does it have to do with our tempo offense, the fact that bama got penalized so much in '22, or our stomp to the NCAA's throat? Who knows. What we do know, and it's an undeniable fact with data to prove it, is they are doing it to UT.

Go stick your head in the sand and let them continue to manipulate the outcomes of our games. I'd rather it be talked about and people demand an explanation or change.
 
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Perception of Unfair Calls: When a referee or official makes a decision that goes against a fan's team, it can seem unjust, especially in close or high-stakes situations. Fans often interpret these calls as biased, even when they may simply be the result of human error.

Selective Attention: Fans tend to focus more on calls that go against their team rather than ones that benefit them. This creates a biased perception that officials are favoring the opposing side, even if the mistakes balance out over the course of a game.

Emotional Investment: Sports are highly emotional experiences. When a game isn’t going well, fans can project their frustration onto officials. Bad calls, or calls perceived as bad, can feel like a personal slight against their team, fueling the belief in bias.

Historical Context: If a particular official or crew has made controversial decisions against a team in the past, fans might hold a long-term grudge and expect bias in future games, even if no such bias exists.

Media Influence: Sports media can amplify controversial decisions and sometimes frame discussions around the possibility of bias. This fuels the narrative, influencing how fans perceive the fairness of officials.

Confirmation Bias: Once fans believe that an official is biased, they may selectively remember only the decisions that confirm their belief. This can reinforce the perception, even in cases where the officiating was balanced.
 
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