Sooner fan here; not here to gloat, but can we establish one thing?

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Alabama lost because they did things that were very un Alabama like. They were hell bent on passing even with A monster named Derrick Henry that was just destroying OKU's defense. They went full retard not giving that kid more touches. 3 Turnovers that lead to scores in the 1st half didn't help their cause any. That said screw Bama, can deal with Stoops gloating as it is the lesser of the two evils.
 
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PagingDrVol said:
All: I joined this board three years ago when moving to Knoxville from Oklahoma and trying to adopt the Vols as my second favorite team. Have enjoyed that, though the constant glorification of the SEC as the only conference that can play football is annoying and silly...

Anyway, I don't argue that the upper end of the SEC is usually good. But I did see one line of logic during the Jones hire and at other times that we need to just go ahead and do away with. Basically:

"...that Big 12 spread offense won't work here in the big bad SEC where we have fast as NFL defenses..." Or the like.

Let's go ahead and just bury that one forever.

Two Big12 afterthoughts have wandered into the SEC and basically dominated it with the spread. One beat the national champion last year. One won the SEC east this year. Another, my Sooners, shredded the SECs best defense last night to the tune of 45 points. Three long time SEC teams have woken up and smelled the coffee and adopted it themselves. One is playing in the BCS title game this year , against another ACC team who also runs it. Case closed.

All I heard when people didn't want to hire CBJ was that the spread wouldn't work here in the land of real defenses. The SEC title game score totaled 100 points. The spread is a stronger offense than any SEC defense can handle, and it's about to take over the NFL as well. The next time an SEC team needs to hire a coach, running the BIG 12 spread is not a reason to oppose the hire. In fact, we should oppose the hire if the coach wants to run the antiquated crap that OU opposed as fraudulent last night.

The spread is here, and if the SEC doesn't adapt, it will get left in the dust. Pack that pro set logic in a box and store it with your Atari and parachute pants. /rant
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Win one game and they somehow innovated an offense. :crazy:

Nevermind that just about every team in the SEC runs "spread" of some type and has been doing it going back to the 90s.
 
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Even if your premise was on point (which it's not), the idea that the spread/option wouldn't work against the SEC was debunked by Meyer and Saint Timothy. Years ago.

... Still not sure what the point of this thread is.
 
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milohimself said:
Even if your premise was on point (which it's not), the idea that the spread/option wouldn't work against the SEC was debunked by Meyer and Saint Timothy. Years ago.

... Still not sure what the point of this thread is.
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The point is to pretend not to gloat while actually spouting the Stoops "no respect" theme and gloating.
 
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GAVol said:
The point is to pretend not to gloat while actually spouting the Stoops "no respect" theme and gloating.
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Bammer loss would have been much more enjoyable had it been at the hands of a number of other teams than Oklahoma.
 
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milohimself said:
Bammer loss would have been much more enjoyable had it been at the hands of a number of other teams than Oklahoma.
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Yep ... I caught hell for admitting to slightly pulling for Bama. The OP is exactly what I was thinking of.
 
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Could someone keep this thread handy just in case we pull the upset against the mighty Sooners of the BIG 12next year, that is if they will allow an SEC school on their field next year.
 
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PagingDrVol, please accept our heartfelt congratulations for beating the Crimson Tidy Bowl boys. You played with more intensity than Alabama, successfully pressured McCarron, forced him into turnovers and otherwise revealed him to be the "mere mortal" that many of us perceived him to be. The simple reality is that McCarron has rarely been asked to truly carry his team to victory, because of the superb supporting cast at his disposal. When forced into such a rare scenario, he was not up to the task, stats notwithstanding.

Having said that, if you are advocating that the spread offense (or its gazillion permutations) are some unstoppable force of nature that will forevermore rule college football, I would suggest that you look back over the history of offensive innovations. From the late 1960s until the early 1980s, the wishbone ruled the land and Oklahoma, Nebraska, Texas and Alabama won national championships with it or offenses that heavily utilized the triple option. Indeed, the finest running game that I have ever seen in college football was the 1971 Sooners, with Jack Mildren at quarterback and Greg Pruitt at tailback. However, defensive coordinators eventually found ways to limit the wishbone's effectiveness and today it is only run by the service academies, Georgia Tech and a few others. Eventually, the finest defensive minds will also find ways to limit the spread offense's effectiveness or the game will be transformed into glorified "slide-rule" track meets that bear little resemblance to the game that we have for so long loved.
 
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