Sooner fan here; not here to gloat, but can we establish one thing?

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Here's the TL;DR version since it's apparently badly needed.

Anyone who didn't want to hire CBJ purely because he runs a Big12 Spread is an absolute idiot, and cold hard facts bear that out.

That better ?
 
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I agree about the spread offenses. It's your best option for competing at a high level if you don't have big recruiting advantages. Doesn't mean it's dominant over pro-style, just more effective with lesser talent.

But I do think the Pro-style offense is nearing extinction on the college level. When the few remaining Pro-style teams can no longer dominate in recruiting, they'll either switch philosophies or change coaches.
 
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Morpheus said:
I agree about the spread offenses. It's your best option for competing at a high level if you don't have big recruiting advantages. Doesn't mean it's dominant over pro-style, just more effective with lesser talent.

But I do think the Pro-style offense is nearing extinction on the college level. When the few remaining Pro-style teams can no longer dominate in recruiting, they'll either switch philosophies or change coaches.
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Thanks for being the first person out of 32 to understand what I was saying.
 
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Or post it a year ago instead of posting it in the terrible disguise of not gloating, especially after explaining who you were a fan of, where you came from, and that you weren't gloating.
 
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You lost to Texas and beat a bunch of $hitty big 12 teams. Baylor kicked your azz and you beat an uninspired Bama team...by all means Gloat.Gloat.
 
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I wonder how long Mizzou and TAMU will continue be used as evidence of Big 12 superiority or of the SEC's strength being "propaganda."
They are both SEC schools now.
 
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ukvols said:
I wonder how long Mizzou and TAMU will continue be used as evidence of Big 12 superiority or of the SEC's strength being "propaganda."
They are both SEC schools now.
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Just like Mizzou dominated SEC last year :crazy: - heck it took OT for them to beat Dooley

And Texas A&M has the best QB in their program's history first 2 years in the conf - their future has Miss State written all over it
 
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PagingDrVol said:
All: I joined this board three years ago when moving to Knoxville from Oklahoma and trying to adopt the Vols as my second favorite team. Have enjoyed that, though the constant glorification of the SEC as the only conference that can play football is annoying and silly...

Anyway, I don't argue that the upper end of the SEC is usually good. But I did see one line of logic during the Jones hire and at other times that we need to just go ahead and do away with. Basically:

"...that Big 12 spread offense won't work here in the big bad SEC where we have fast as NFL defenses..." Or the like.

Let's go ahead and just bury that one forever.

Two Big12 afterthoughts have wandered into the SEC and basically dominated it with the spread. One beat the national champion last year. One won the SEC east this year. Another, my Sooners, shredded the SECs best defense last night to the tune of 45 points. Three long time SEC teams have woken up and smelled the coffee and adopted it themselves. One is playing in the BCS title game this year , against another ACC team who also runs it. Case closed.

All I heard when people didn't want to hire CBJ was that the spread wouldn't work here in the land of real defenses. The SEC title game score totaled 100 points. The spread is a stronger offense than any SEC defense can handle, and it's about to take over the NFL as well. The next time an SEC team needs to hire a coach, running the BIG 12 spread is not a reason to oppose the hire. In fact, we should oppose the hire if the coach wants to run the antiquated crap that OU opposed as fraudulent last night.

The spread is here, and if the SEC doesn't adapt, it will get left in the dust. Pack that pro set logic in a box and store it with your Atari and parachute pants. /rant
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You've been infected with the stupidity of most of our fan base.

Auburn rode their home-field advantage and a kick-six for an UPSET of Bama in the Iron Bowl. It's an upset because if those two teams play ten times at Auburn, Bama wins at least 8. Auburn luckily got one of their wins.

The spread is a flashy gimmick, and will never take over. It might become more popular because people are narrow minded, poor tasted idiots who just want to see 100 points a game, but that does not make it more effective.

Elite defenses will always shut that crap down. If you actually watch the NFL, you would have realize that all those read option teams from 2012 don't run that crap anymore. Players get hurt and defenses are too good. You may be correct about scores getting higher, but that's due to the rules favoring the defense. It works in college because most defenses aren't worth a damn. I hope it never gets as bad in the NFL as it is in college.

Auburn wouldn't have even been in the game at the end if Bama had a kicker worth a damn. By the time Bama got to the Sugar Bowl they didn't give a sh*t anymore. After winning 3 championships in 4 years, I wouldn't have cared for some stupid BCS bowl either.

Go ahead and get all up on your high horse you Big 12 scrub. That's really cute. Bama would easily beat FSU or OU if they played for a championship, and I don't expect an idiot like yourself to see the logic and reasoning behind that. I hope to God that Auburn wins, or we'll be seeing these anti-SEC idiots coming out like freaking locusts.
 
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RockyTopFox said:
You've been infected with the stupidity of most of our fan base.

Auburn rode their home-field advantage and a kick-six for an UPSET of Bama in the Iron Bowl. It's an upset because if those two teams play ten times at Auburn, Bama wins at least 8. Auburn luckily got one of their wins.

The spread is a flashy gimmick, and will never take over. It might become more popular because people are narrow minded, poor tasted idiots who just want to see 100 points a game, but that does not make it more effective.

Elite defenses will always shut that crap down. If you actually watch the NFL, you would have realize that all those read option teams from 2012 don't run that crap anymore. Players get hurt and defenses are too good. You may be correct about scores getting higher, but that's due to the rules favoring the defense. It works in college because most defenses aren't worth a damn. I hope it never gets as bad in the NFL as it is in college.

Auburn wouldn't have even been in the game at the end if Bama had a kicker worth a damn. By the time Bama got to the Sugar Bowl they didn't give a sh*t anymore. After winning 3 championships in 4 years, I wouldn't have cared for some stupid BCS bowl either.

Go ahead and get all up on your high horse you Big 12 scrub. That's really cute. Bama would easily beat FSU or OU if they played for a championship, and I don't expect an idiot like yourself to see the logic and reasoning behind that. I hope to God that Auburn wins, or we'll be seeing these anti-SEC idiots coming out like freaking locusts.
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Not bad. First use I have seen of this term.
 
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PagingDrVol said:
All: I joined this board three years ago when moving to Knoxville from Oklahoma and trying to adopt the Vols as my second favorite team. Have enjoyed that, though the constant glorification of the SEC as the only conference that can play football is annoying and silly...

Anyway, I don't argue that the upper end of the SEC is usually good. But I did see one line of logic during the Jones hire and at other times that we need to just go ahead and do away with. Basically:

"...that Big 12 spread offense won't work here in the big bad SEC where we have fast as NFL defenses..." Or the like.

Let's go ahead and just bury that one forever.

Two Big12 afterthoughts have wandered into the SEC and basically dominated it with the spread. One beat the national champion last year. One won the SEC east this year. Another, my Sooners, shredded the SECs best defense last night to the tune of 45 points. Three long time SEC teams have woken up and smelled the coffee and adopted it themselves. One is playing in the BCS title game this year , against another ACC team who also runs it. Case closed.

All I heard when people didn't want to hire CBJ was that the spread wouldn't work here in the land of real defenses. The SEC title game score totaled 100 points. The spread is a stronger offense than any SEC defense can handle, and it's about to take over the NFL as well. The next time an SEC team needs to hire a coach, running the BIG 12 spread is not a reason to oppose the hire. In fact, we should oppose the hire if the coach wants to run the antiquated crap that OU opposed as fraudulent last night.

The spread is here, and if the SEC doesn't adapt, it will get left in the dust. Pack that pro set logic in a box and store it with your Atari and parachute pants. /rant
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You:eek:ne thing is for sure;you aint paging a Dr. because you are preggos...because you are full of mis-conceptions...
 
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ukvols said:
I'll have to disagree.
I want the home game with Oklahoma in 2015.
But, I do think they should have bought out Oregon.
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Like I posted in another thread, the tough schedule excuse aint gonna fly if efforts are not made to ease it back during the period that our own head coach is preaching patience while he stacks bricks.
 
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LSU has had lil problem stopping the spread over the last 3 years. Alabama does not have a huge problem stopping the spread, it is the fast no huddle.

Of course I don't consider that real football anyway.
 
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