Source: Tim Tebow named Broncos' starter

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govols120 said:
Broncos fans are in the process of (stupidly) rejoicing.
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I'm rejoicing, but I'm certainly not stupid. Hate him all you want, but he led the team after halftime of the San Diego game and came back from a 16 point deficent to almost pull of the win. The team was playing like crap the first half and had no chance of winning, but the change at QB gave the team the confidence to think they could recover and win.

With four losses in the first five games, the Broncos are already pretty much out of the playoff picture. Kyle Orton isn't the future of the team and Tebow is the only quarterback currently on the team that is under contract past this year. The team needs to find out what he can do, succeed or fail, so they can decide what to do at the position for the future. He showed promise in the final three games of the season last year and he will be able to show what he can do now that he has the starting job. I'm all for the change because the Broncos need a spark from somewhere to start going in the direction they need to, and I believe Tebow can provide that.
 
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I'm not saying Orton doesn't suck too. I'm saying Tebow isn't the answer and never will be. Bomb out and draft Luck.
 
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govols120 said:
I'm not saying Orton doesn't suck too. I'm saying Tebow isn't the answer and never will be. Bomb out and draft Luck.
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I would never condone my team giving up the season just for a higher draft pick. Never. And I'm not writing off Tebow as a bust until he gets the chance to prove one way or the other.
 
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tebow is not an nfl qb. never will be. he's a h-back playing the qb position. have him go frank wycheck and he'll be a regular at the pro bowl.
 
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govols120 said:
I'm not saying Orton doesn't suck too. I'm saying Tebow isn't the answer and never will be. Bomb out and draft Luck.
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What I want to know is why Tebow haters act like their opinion is fact. All he has ever done is succeed, even in his limited play in the NFL. Please tell me why you think he will be such a failure.
 
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nbakerld said:
What I want to know is why Tebow lovers act like their opinion is fact.
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fyp

How are Tebow supporters any differently? You think because he's always been successful that he'll continue to be. Wouldn't that be an opinion?

Isn't it a fact that competition is waaaay better in the NFL than in college and high school? Thus, him always being successful has nothing to do with anything. That's like saying a kid who got straight A's in high school will get straight A's in college. Two completely different things. I've known top students in high school that flunk out of college and you've seen guys like Ryan Leaf, Alex Smith, Jamarcus Russell etc. all bust. Were they not successful in both high school and college? Russell was a 5* QB per scout and he won a national championship.

If Tebow fans can tout past winning to justify future winning, than it shouldn't be an issue when someone claims Tebow won't be any better than Russell. They had similar success after all and the only thing that separates them is that fact that they're two different people. Just like it's a fact that playing QB in the NFL is completely different than playing QB in high school and college. Tebow didn't play in a system suited for the pros and we already saw how one of Meyers QB's turned out. Aforementioned Alex Smith

Btw, why are you calling people out for acting like their opinions are fact? I've seen you do it in other threads yourself. Just throwing that out there since you played the card to begin with in an attempt to prove a point. It goes both ways

P.s. You claim he has been successful in the limited time he's played in the NFL. Since when is 48.9% successful? His passer rating isn't bad but I know you don't believe in that system. There is no way to spin 48.9% as successful
 
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Alex Smith is starting to look like a good quarterback, maybe it was all on the coaching that was making him look bad.
 
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The_Orange_Pearl said:
fyp

How are Tebow supporters any differently? You think because he's always been successful that he'll continue to be. Wouldn't that be an opinion?
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I like Tebow. I'm not sure that he'll be great. I have no reason to doubt him, because of what he's accomplished, but at the same time I don't know. This opinion is very different from somebody stating, "I'm saying Tebow isn't the answer and never will be." when there's a history of stats and accomplishments that say otherwise.

If you're going to say he'll never be anything, at least explain why you think that.
 
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BTW, Tebow is 1-2 as a starter and made a great comeback on Sunday. He has a high YPA, YPC, TD%, and a low INT%. That's not even factoring 7 rushing TD's. Yeah, his completion % is low, but if you want him to blow up in every statistical category right away, you've probably set the bar too high.

Vick was at about 50% completion through his second season. Not saying he's Vick, but they are both special talents, so I'm not quick to judge in that area.
 
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I don't think he'll be that great, but it's time to find out one way or the other. I hate Tebow-obsessed Broncos fans but at least now they'll shut up about it. No more hype; his popularity will now be based on his actual performance.
 
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VKAman said:
I don't think he'll be that great, but it's time to find out one way or the other. I hate Tebow-obsessed Broncos fans but at least now they'll shut up about it. No more hype; his popularity will now be based on his actual performance.
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I guess this was my problem with him. Broncos fans are absolutely obsessed with him.
 
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I don't think a majority of Broncos fans were obsessed with him as much as a majority of Broncos fans are tired of waddling in mediocrity. Orton was the epitome of that, not good enough to win, but not the worst starting QB around. The QB is not the singular problem with this team. But they have to determine whether he has promise or if they need to target one next year in a strong QB class.

Plus to everyone who watched the Broncos which pretty much only includes Broncos fans, Tebow always gave them a better chance to win. While Orton could move the ball when it didn't matter (meaningless drives, preseason, etc.), he would completely bomb when it mattered. Tebow is the opposite from everything we have seen so far. It's not pretty, but he has a positive impact when it matters.

And the media is dumb. I would bet 95% of the might have seen 30 minutes of the Broncos this year. And John Fox is the worst coach in the NFL, he stood by Delhomme until he threw 15 trillions picks in a playoff game (and then some). If it was up to him, this team would be all 35+.
 
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I think it was them being obsessed with Tebow. Granted Orton is a middling QB, but Tebow has a much more wholesome, marketable image. I fully believe people are willing to look past the fact that Tebow has failed to look good in practice or in games just because he is so marketable while Orton is so easy to hate.
 
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Tebow deserves the opportunity to start.
Like him or not, he is a difference maker in a game. He gives 100% and has proven to be a winner. He is no longer the qb of the gators. I wish him the best.
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3/5 for 24 yards in the first half against the winless Dolphins. He has 44 yards on 5 rushes though.

Miami up 6-0

So... basically the Tebow I expected
 
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