Southern Miss to receive notice of allegations next week

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Roustabout said:
Yup, there are some twisted folks on this forum. Hoping a coach gets thrown under the jail so you can fulfill some vendetta with an internet adversary.
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Yeah, that's it.

It can't be because all signs pointed to this being the reality all the time and someone bent over backwards, lied, and twisted the facts to pound the drum that reality wasn't real.

But yeah, because I want the guy to finally tell the truth about all of it (after, like I said, all the preaching about honor, truth, and faith), I guess that makes ME the twisted one.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Yeah, that's it.

It can't be because all signs pointed to this being the reality all the time and someone bent over backwards, lied, and twisted the facts to pound the drum that reality wasn't real.

But yeah, because I want the guy to finally tell the truth about all of it (after, like I said, all the preaching about honor, truth, and faith), I guess that makes ME the twisted one.
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Yes he made his bed and has to lie down in it but there still is very much a humanistic side to this.

The man reportedly still has 3 mortgages, a new wife, and very impressionable aged kids.

I for one hope he escapes the crosshairs of harsh penalties and is able to pass nearly all these allegations off on his assistants. This is going to destroy his chances of ever being a big time coach again but I do hope he can make a decent living in coaching going forward
 
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BruinVol said:
Yes he made his bed and has to lie down in it but there still is very much a humanistic side to this.

The man reportedly still has 3 mortgages, a new wife, and very impressionable aged kids.

I for one hope he escapes the crosshairs of harsh penalties and is able to pass nearly all these allegations off on his assistants. This is going to destroy his chances of ever being a big time coach again but I do hope he can make a decent living in coaching going forward
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I get that, and I never said I wanted him to get in trouble, but I have little sympathy for him given his past. He apparently didn't learn his lesson from being shady at Morehead St. And when you don't learn your leasson, sometimes life has to kick your ass.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I get that, and I never said I wanted him to get in trouble, but I have little sympathy for him given his past. He apparently didn't learn his lesson from being shady at Morehead St. And when you don't learn your leasson, sometimes life has to kick your ass.
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I agree just not sure exactly how much he knew about these issues or actually broke rules him self

I believe he likely is guilty of turning a blind eye and nothing much more. He still deserves punishment for sure but my huntch is he just allowed the assistants to "get the job done" without monitoring how
 
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BruinVol said:
I agree just not sure exactly how much he knew about these issues or actually broke rules him self

I believe he likely is guilty of turning a blind eye and nothing much more. He still deserves punishment for sure but my huntch is he just allowed the assistants to "get the job done" without monitoring how
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Why would you have a hunch that this is the case? It's not like he has been squeaky clean during his coaching career.
 
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USM will probably get nailed. It's too bad the NCAA wont deliver punishment fairly and punish schools like North Carolina
 
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BearCat204 said:
Why would you have a hunch that this is the case? It's not like he has been squeaky clean during his coaching career.
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Oh I think turning a blind eye is bad and deserves punishment and I know his defense all along has been he didn't know these things were happening. I just choose to believe he wasn't the one "helping" the recruits with there course work to get eligible amongst other issues
 
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BruinVol said:
I agree just not sure exactly how much he knew about these issues or actually broke rules him self

I believe he likely is guilty of turning a blind eye and nothing much more. He still deserves punishment for sure but my huntch is he just allowed the assistants to "get the job done" without monitoring how
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Sorry Bruin, if one takes the time to read the Morehead State notice of allegations...all of it...and then takes the time to read the Coach's Accountability Rule that came after, complete with the provided examples, it is as if they wrote the rule specifically for Donnie Tyndall.

I don't wish the guy any I'll will, but if he didn't earn the show cause for what he did at USM, he certainly did when he deleted the e-mails. I feel sorry for his kids and wife, I feel sorry for the assistants and their families, the players at Southern Miss that got caught up in it, the fans at USM.

I don't have much sympathy for DT but I hope for his family that he catches on with an NBA team and makes the decision to be done with college basketball. Not everyone is cut out to lead a college program.
 
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vol66 said:
Sorry Bruin, if one takes the time to read the Morehead State notice of allegations...all of it...and then takes the time to read the Coach's Accountability Rule that came after, complete with the provided examples, it is as if they wrote the rule specifically for Donnie Tyndall.

I don't wish the guy any I'll will, but if he didn't earn the show cause for what he did at USM, he certainly did when he deleted the e-mails. I feel sorry for his kids and wife, I feel sorry for the assistants and their families, the players at Southern Miss that got caught up in it, the fans at USM.

I don't have much sympathy for DT but I hope for his family that he catches on with an NBA team and makes the decision to be done with college basketball. Not everyone is cut out to lead a college program.
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I can support your post here for sure. I just hope he isn't completely black balled from coaching. He has forfieted any opportunity he ever had to get rich coaching basketball and deservably so.

He is a rags to riches story of self made in the coaching industry and I hope he can make a decent living staying in it
 
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BruinVol said:
Oh I think turning a blind eye is bad and deserves punishment and I know his defense all along has been he didn't know these things were happening. I just choose to believe he wasn't the one "helping" the recruits with there course work to get eligible amongst other issues
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Even if what you believe is true, at best he comes out of this looking rather stupid for not having the sense to be more on top of what is going on after he already escaped it before.
 
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Oh my word...you guys remember the name Brad Wolverton? Before he wrote the story about Barnes and Texas, he wrote an article called confessions of a fixer. The fixer is called Mr. White in the article and it states that he was enrolling as these kids and taking the classes to "fix" their academic standing and get them into school. One of the schools mentioned is Adams State...guess what school popped up in the first allegation in the NCAA notice that USM just got...Adams State. Holy cow!
 
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vol66 said:
Oh my word...you guys remember the name Brad Wolverton? Before he wrote the story about Barnes and Texas, he wrote an article called confessions of a fixer. The fixer is called Mr. White in the article and it states that he was enrolling as these kids and taking the classes to "fix" their academic standing and get them into school. One of the schools mentioned is Adams State...guess what school popped up in the first allegation in the NCAA notice that USM just got...Adams State. Holy cow!
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Pretty sure Adams state is a school used by college athletes all over the country to get eligible. Easy easy online credits.

That correct??
 
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@Ben_Fred: Scanning NOA: NCAA basically says Tyndall and staff arranged bogus grades for prospects, paid guys and didn't cooperate with investigation
 
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BruinVol said:
Pretty sure Adams state is a school used by college athletes all over the country to get eligible. Easy easy online credits.

That correct??
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Google confessions of a fixer, it is sports illustrated...I'm blown away right now...
 
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Basics of allegation 2...there goes the I didn't know what my assistants were doing defense.

..."as the head men's
basketball coach engaged in unethical conduct through his involvement in
providing an impermissible source of financial aid for two nonqualifier student-
athletes from his own funds. "
 
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vol66 said:
Basics of allegation 2...there goes the I didn't know what my assistants were doing defense.

..."as the head men's
basketball coach engaged in unethical conduct through his involvement in
providing an impermissible source of financial aid for two nonqualifier student-
athletes from his own funds. "
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That is the one where he supposedly had the kids take out student loans under the promise the loans would be paid off well after their playing days were over
 
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