Space Exploration

Are NASA's future missions and budget justified?

  • It's worth the time and expenditures

    Votes: 222 65.9%

  • Complete waste of money

    Votes: 41 12.2%

  • We need to explore, but not at the current cost

    Votes: 74 22.0%
  • Total voters
    337
#3,755
#3,755
Boeing Starliner delayed AGAIN. This time through no fault of their own. Someone at Boeing must have REALLY offended the space gods at some point 😂
 
#3,757
#3,757
Hoping that my Dishy McFlatface will be arriving soon...heard there are lots of pre-orders...wonder is there is a chance that so many ppl leave Viasat and HughesNet that their speeds might actually be better than Starlink? I have one more week before our reset and already getting throttled...we don't even use it for anything other than work...we stream using our phone hotspots...Screenshot_20210731-211835_Chrome.jpg
 
#3,760
#3,760
OrangeTsar said:
Boeing Starliner delayed AGAIN. This time through no fault of their own. Someone at Boeing must have REALLY offended the space gods at some point 😂
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If I was the NASA Admin, I'd be explaining life to them and explaining I'd start looking at legal methods of recovering the funds they wasted.

There really is no excuse for this. We've been putting manned craft into orbit and docking with orbital objects since the mid 60s. The really is zero reason they shouldn't have beat the brakes off SpaceX in this competition.

Imagine what Sierra Nevada and the Dreamchaser could have done with the same amount SpaceX had in this competition. Much less the extra $1.6 billion Boeing has wasted.
 
#3,761
#3,761
Grand Vol said:
If I was the NASA Admin, I'd be explaining life to them and explaining I'd start looking at legal methods of recovering the funds they wasted.

There really is no excuse for this. We've been putting manned craft into orbit and docking with orbital objects since the mid 60s. The really is zero reason they shouldn't have beat the brakes off SpaceX in this competition.

Imagine what Sierra Nevada and the Dreamchaser could have done with the same amount SpaceX had in this competition. Much less the extra $1.6 billion Boeing has wasted.
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I agree with you largely, but at least this one wasn’t Boeing’s fault. It was from Friday till Tuesday and was due to rogue thruster firing on the just delivered Russian ISS Module. They wisely scheduled a delay to have a few days for an inspection as the unexpected maneuver briefly threw the station out of its normal attitude and put unplanned stress on the structure. That said, Starliner has been grossly mismanaged
 
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#3,765
#3,765
Matt2496 said:
Yes. Also, the atlas rocket has been human rated for nearly 60 years.
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But with each modification, they have to recertify it. While the Atlas family has been certified, each time they did something different, NASA had to go through the manned certification process again.

That's the issue they had with SpaceX messing around with the design of the Falcon 9. Each time they changed a widget or code no matter how minor, NASA had to start the process all over again.
 
#3,771
#3,771
OrangeTsar said:
I agree with you largely, but at least this one wasn’t Boeing’s fault. It was from Friday till Tuesday and was due to rogue thruster firing on the just delivered Russian ISS Module. They wisely scheduled a delay to have a few days for an inspection as the unexpected maneuver briefly threw the station out of its normal attitude and put unplanned stress on the structure. That said, Starliner has been grossly mismanaged
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Yeah... about that...
 
#3,773
#3,773
Wow…just wow….
Boeing is doing what Boeing does again 😬
I really feel bad for the commercial crew astronauts who got picked for the Boeing side. They probably originally felt like they won the lottery now they are probably wondering if they will ever fly, and if they even want to on Starliner
 
#3,774
#3,774
But in Boca Chica news, WOW. All 29 engines installed in booster 4 and it has been moved to the launch complex. All six engines installed on SN20 and it is ready to go to the launch complex. Go Elon!!!!! I wondered if I would ever live to see something more powerful than the Saturn V fly. Looks like I just might, and before SLS even
 
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#3,775
#3,775
This is only the spacecraft portion that Boeing is struggling so much with. For comparison, SpaceX designed the Falcon 9 1st stage booster, 2nd stage, and Dragon spacecraft from scratch plus with reusability and cheaper than Boeing.

The past few years have convinced me that Boeing currently is a shadow of their former self.
 
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