Space Exploration

[0nelilreb]

If it's aliens let us hope they don't show up on the Mall and ask to see our leader.

I figured you’d be all for that . You never watched the movie “ Mars Attacks” ?

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

If it's aliens let us hope they don't show up on the Mall and ask to see our leader.

They'll be seeking to have a conversation w/loony Pelosi & crying Chuck & sh!tty Adam Schiff for sure.

 

[Hunerwadel]

I figured you’d be all for that . You never watched the movie “ Mars Attacks” ?
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"Do not run, we are your friends."

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Apollo 11 Moon landing celebrated with new LEGO set

This is so cool..........I'd like to have one.

 

[LouderVol]

Apollo 11 Moon landing celebrated with new LEGO set

This is so cool..........I'd like to have one.

Yes please

 

[IPleadInsanity]

When the aliens finally do contact us do we come to the first meeting with promise of welfare, healthcare and food stamps for the arriving aliens? There may be a caravan on the way we know nothing about.

 

[photovol]

So I've seen different sides of this on several sites. Some think it's a worthy goal, others think it's a waste of money that could be better spent on more earthly projects.

How does VN feel about the budgets for NASA as well as the goals in our space programs?

ETA: NASA budget typically runs $17-18 Billion and change.

Budget of NASA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Truth be told, we've had a space force since the 60's and have been trading with different civilizations for many years....TRUTH!
Wake Up America and smell the roses

 

[photovol]

Truth be told, we've had a space force since the 60's and have been trading with different civilizations for many years....TRUTH!
Wake Up America and smell the roses

The Money spent on undisclosed Black Projects runs in the Trillions and Trillions of dollars, think about that for just a moment

 

[zeppelin128]

Thanks for keeping this thread up to date fellas. Always very interested, and refuse to watch MSM news, so i learn everything online and from very few sources. This one is my space source, along with reddit updates where they show video of all the launches etc...reddit/ conservative has good stuff too. Much of what we share and discuss here is there.

Hog i believe made a very good point the other day about IMO2020...almost nobody has that on their radar..if we are still in tarriff wars, trump better order a delay on that or we will go in a recession IMO...too much drag for anyones economy to overcome.

When you are hanging out on reddit, check out r/space, r/spacex, r/SpaceLaunchSystem, and r/Futurology. Good ways to get info on space exploration stuff, plus some hard core sci fi type proposals on futurology if you are a nerd like me. There isn't really any R v D debate, that usually gets buried in the thread. There is constant arguing between SpaceX and NASA dudes, but it is much more tame and friendly than a VolNation argument.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

18 new Earth-size exoplanets pop up in old Kepler planet-hunting data

Oh well >>> nothing we can do but look and enjoy this new discovery of 18 planets.

 

[Hunerwadel]

18 new Earth-size exoplanets pop up in old Kepler planet-hunting data

Oh well >>> nothing we can do but look and enjoy this new discovery of 18 planets.

Help is on the way. There are numerous telescopes being planned and some being built that should be able to break down the atmospheres of some exoplanets. The JWST might be able to identify some gasses if a nearby planet has an an atmosphere but it will take about 100 hours of constant viewing to do so. It's not likely scientists are going to waste a lot of hours with JWST just looking at one object. JWST has 6.5 meter mirror. It is estimated that it will take a telescope of about 30 meters to identify the content of the atmospheres of the nearest exoplanets if they have one.

9 telescopes that will change how we see space

 

[MercyPercy]

Truth be told, we've had a space force since the 60's and have been trading with different civilizations for many years....TRUTH!
Wake Up America and smell the roses

This post explains the rest of your posts.

 

[photovol]

This post explains the rest of your posts.

MercyPercy is a good moniker for you, touché!

 

[Grand Vol]

This post explains the rest of your posts.

Sometimes you just have to let it go.

 

[Velo Vol]

How does VN feel about the budgets for NASA as well as the goals in our space programs?

Right now some of the probes, Webb telescope, strike me as more bang for the buck than sending a human to the moon, or even Mars.

 

[photovol]

If you trust your Government then fine, if not, then learn to think outside the box, because the Government ( especially "undisclosed black Projects") only let you know what they think, you should know......think about that......need to know..

NASA could be described as the Nations consummer space agency, do you not think for a moment that there were secret undisclosed space projects going on behind the scenes?
Think again!

 

[Weezer]

This post explains the rest of your posts.

Is it really any crazier than most of what luther says?

 

[Hunerwadel]

Right now some of the probes, Webb telescope, strike me as more bang for the buck than sending a human to the moon, or even Mars.

I couldn't agree more. If they go forward with a manned Mars mission I'm betting you're going to see a project go more over budged and further behind schedule than any project of any kind in history.

 

[Grand Vol]

Right now some of the probes, Webb telescope, strike me as more bang for the buck than sending a human to the moon, or even Mars.

I couldn't agree more. If they go forward with a manned Mars mission I'm betting you're going to see a project go more over budged and further behind schedule than any project of any kind in history.

I think there are benefits in both approaches to space exploration. Unmanned probes and scientific instruments doing the jobs we can't do yet (Juno and the JWST are two examples off the top of my head) while also keeping alive the path of manned exploration of bodies we can and should be using as stepping stones to fulfill a destiny of becoming a multi-planet species. That's the ultimate goal and path we should be taking. The moon is a good "proving ground" for technologies we can and should be developing for long term sustainment of humans in space. Sure, we've been there, done that, but we haven't proven we can support it for long periods outside of low earth orbit.

Let's face facts here, we're long overdue for another big hit which will happen eventually. Just in the last 100 years or so we've had serious enough impact events as well as studies of past events to give the wake up call that life is fragile on our planet and deflection strategies can and should include a long term manned mission to deflect incoming threats. Shoemaker-Levy 9 is a prime example of the disruption even a relatively small body could have on our planet and we do not have the tidal forces capable of tearing it apart like Jupiter did. Sustained manned exploration and colonization of the moon and other bodies in the solar system should be in the plans sooner rather than later.

The approach they took in the 60s, using both manned and unmanned exploration missions as a platform for a later lunar landing, is a good model. Apollo wouldn't have been able to reach the moon if not for the Ranger and Surveyor probes. A good blend of both should be in the cards rather than playing politics and changing paths every four to eight years as Administrations change.

 

[Grand Vol]

I couldn't agree more. If they go forward with a manned Mars mission I'm betting you're going to see a project go more over budged and further behind schedule than any project of any kind in history.

They (NASA) should be looking to the private sector on this one instead of trying to continue reinventing the wheel when it comes to manned spacecraft. Both SpaceX and Blue Origins are killing NASA by developing craft both (reasonably) under budget and without the normal bureaucratic nonsense of a government agency. NASA should be supporting that instead of trying to work against it.

Yes, I specifically left Boeing and the other "big boys" off my small list because they tend to go over budget and well behind schedule. Which tends to be a huge part of the problem you describe.

It's almost as if NASA is the 50 year old guy who balled out in high school trying to keep up with a bunch of 20 year olds on the court and are buying into the myth that this crazy medical formula will keep them as fit as they were in their prime. "Hey, I once scored 30 points against our high school rival! I can keep up with you young cats!"

Only to get dunked on repeatedly.

NASA should be taking a back seat and advisory role to people like Bezos and Musk. Coaching rather than trying to run with the younger cats that are outperforming them.

 

[photovol]

I think there are benefits in both approaches to space exploration. Unmanned probes and scientific instruments doing the jobs we can't do yet (Juno and the JWST are two examples off the top of my head) while also keeping alive the path of manned exploration of bodies we can and should be using as stepping stones to fulfill a destiny of becoming a multi-planet species. That's the ultimate goal and path we should be taking. The moon is a good "proving ground" for technologies we can and should be developing for long term sustainment of humans in space. Sure, we've been there, done that, but we haven't proven we can support it for long periods outside of low earth orbit.

Let's face facts here, we're long overdue for another big hit which will happen eventually. Just in the last 100 years or so we've had serious enough impact events as well as studies of past events to give the wake up call that life is fragile on our planet and deflection strategies can and should include a long term manned mission to deflect incoming threats. Shoemaker-Levy 9 is a prime example of the disruption even a relatively small body could have on our planet and we do not have the tidal forces capable of tearing it apart like Jupiter did. Sustained manned exploration and colonization of the moon and other bodies in the solar system should be in the plans sooner rather than later.

The approach they took in the 60s, using both manned and unmanned exploration missions as a platform for a later lunar landing, is a good model. Apollo wouldn't have been able to reach the moon if not for the Ranger and Surveyor probes. A good blend of both should be in the cards rather than playing politics and changing paths every four to eight years as Administrations change.

I think the space exploration that is made public is very minuscule, compared to the Black Unacknowledged space projects that are top secret and need To know only.

There is so much that the public is not privy to when it comes to the space program and even some Presidents are not even read in on such top secret information..... think about that for a moment, if you will

 

[photovol]

I think the space exploration that is made public is very minuscule, compared to the Black Unacknowledged space projects that are top secret and need To know only.

There is so much that the public is not privy to when it comes to the space program and even some Presidents are not even read in on such top secret information..... think about that for a moment, if you will

This begs to question, who’s really in charge of the Black Undisclosed special projects if some presidents are not fully read in on such top secret special operations?

 

[Grand Vol]

I think the space exploration that is made public is very minuscule, compared to the Black Unacknowledged space projects that are top secret and need To know only.

There is so much that the public is not privy to when it comes to the space program and even some Presidents are not even read in on such top secret information..... think about that for a moment, if you will

Dude, seriously don't care about these super secret projects you claim to exist. There are other threads designed to the tin foil theories.

 

[photovol]

Dude, seriously don't care about these super secret projects you claim to exist. There are other threads designed to the tin foil theories.

So you don’t care about super secret undisclosed projects, that’s ok
Many people don’t care about the intelligent agency’s spying on political campaigns or Americans, I get it, you don’t care
Do you believe everything your government tells you or that NASA only tells you the truth?
Do you care about the Truth?

 

[Velo Vol]

Just in the last 100 years or so we've had serious enough impact events as well as studies of past events to give the wake up call that life is fragile on our planet and deflection strategies can and should include a long term manned mission to deflect incoming threats.

I get the lure of having humans in space. For pure deflection missions, though, it seems that the need for humans to be out there is growing less and less each year with technology.

Humans are needy ($$$). For research purposes, a lot of stuff can be accomplished on the ISS.