Space Exploration

[marcusluvsvols]

How trite of old Albert to lay an example for modern liberals of "intellectual elitism" by implying that only the "more naive" would be religious in the traditional sense. My aunt and uncle are both UT educated microbiologists/virologists with masters degrees...devout Christians. In many ways she, my aunt, played a big part in leading me to Christ by always being a great Christian lady and being so pleasant and successful. They both retired around 60yo..and worked the last several years mostly because they wanted to, they didnt need the money. She is 1 of the few people who can school me in jeopardy and scrabble, with an extremely broad base of knowledge as well as a great vocabulary. Having seen, learned, and taught evolution on a micro scale daily never made them question their faith...in fact it strengthened it. They do not believe in pseudoscience like abiogenesis...nor agree with it being lumped in under the blanket term "evolution" . That is a modern atheist ploy to smuggle that which is purely fiction, life coming from lifeless matter , in under the umbrella term for a science which can be tested, demonstrated, repeated, such as micro evolution. Saying that living things came from a primordial soup of proteins is so far away from being real science that one might as well say the flying spaghetti monster showed up and waved his magic wand over the "soup" to give it life. However, if one has the faith to believe in that which cannot ever be seen or demonstrated...not God but abiogenesis , they will be accepted by most intellectuals as normal. If one has that same faith in what atheist would call "a God with no proof" they are roundly mocked by the same intellectuals who actually share the same basic belief system...faith in the unseen...but will never, ever admit it. See, faith is a dirty word to the irreligious, though their beliefs require a healthy dose of it. Whats the word for criticizing something that others do, while doing it yourself?? Oh yeah, hypocrisy. We all believe...just in different things.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

a God with no proof? God became Flesh & dwelt among us in the person that was known as Jesus.. The Word was w/God at the very beginning of it ALL and the Word was God. All things were made by Him and without Him nothing was made that was made. Saint John 1: 1-3.

 

[Hunerwadel]

How trite of old Albert to lay an example for modern liberals of "intellectual elitism" by implying that only the "more naive" would be religious in the traditional sense. My aunt and uncle are both UT educated microbiologists/virologists with masters degrees...devout Christians. In many ways she, my aunt, played a big part in leading me to Christ by always being a great Christian lady and being so pleasant and successful. They both retired around 60yo..and worked the last several years mostly because they wanted to, they didnt need the money. She is 1 of the few people who can school me in jeopardy and scrabble, with an extremely broad base of knowledge as well as a great vocabulary. Having seen, learned, and taught evolution on a micro scale daily never made them question their faith...in fact it strengthened it. They do not believe in pseudoscience like abiogenesis...nor agree with it being lumped in under the blanket term "evolution" . That is a modern atheist ploy to smuggle that which is purely fiction, life coming from lifeless matter , in under the umbrella term for a science which can be tested, demonstrated, repeated, such as micro evolution. Saying that living things came from a primordial soup of proteins is so far away from being real science that one might as well say the flying spaghetti monster showed up and waved his magic wand over the "soup" to give it life. However, if one has the faith to believe in that which cannot ever be seen or demonstrated...not God but abiogenesis , they will be accepted by most intellectuals as normal. If one has that same faith in what atheist would call "a God with no proof" they are roundly mocked by the same intellectuals who actually share the same basic belief system...faith in the unseen...but will never, ever admit it. See, faith is a dirty word to the irreligious, though their beliefs require a healthy dose of it. Whats the word for criticizing something that others do, while doing it yourself?? Oh yeah, hypocrisy. We all believe...just in different things.

I deleted Einstein's letter. I shouldn't have posted it to begin with. I had no intention of stirring up a religious and political debate in the space exploration thread. My bad.

 

[twoffo]

I got to sit inside the Blue Origin New Shepard mock capsule last week. The seat was so comfortable I could imagine falling asleep during the ride and missing out on the experience.

 

[Velo Vol]

#TIL about the need for clocks in space to improve navigation. Also, NASA still posts on tumblr.

Edit: I only posted the link to the post. All the content below is the forum software's doing.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

NASA orbiter spots "Star Trek" symbol on Mars....from CNN.
Be sure to toggle the picture arrows from side to side to see some very cool images of Mars.

NASA orbiter spots 'Star Trek' symbol on Mars - CNN.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

NASA ramps up search for alien planets, may use huge 'starshade'

If they ever do find a dirt worm on an alien planet.......then what?

 

[Hunerwadel]

Milky Way Collided with Dark-Matter Dominated Galaxy Less Than Billion Years Ago | Astronomy | Sci-News.com

 

[Hunerwadel]

Two new Earth size exoplanets in the habitable zone have been discovered orbiting a Red Dwarf star only 12LY away. This is actually a pretty important find. They are close enough that the next generation of telescopes might be able to determine the make up of their atmospheres (if they have one) and determine if signs of life as we know it are present.

Also I have posted some interesting facts about Red Dwarf stars. For example they are expected to burn for trillions of years before exhausting their fuel where as yellow stars like our Sun will burn out in about 15B years. That gives life a very long window of opportunity to arise on a planet orbiting a Red Dwarf. It is believed that approximately 65-75% of the stars in the Milky Way are Red Dwarfs.

Two potentially life-friendly planets found orbiting a nearby star

Red Dwarfs: The Most Common and Longest-Lived Stars

 

[Hunerwadel]

Concept of what a sunset might look like on the two newly discovered planets compared to a sunset on Earth:

 

[82_VOL_83]

Two new Earth size exoplanets in the habitable zone have been discovered orbiting a Red Dwarf star only 12LY away. This is actually a pretty important find. They are close enough that the next generation of telescopes might be able to determine the make up of their atmospheres (if they have one) and determine if signs of life as we know it are present.

Also I have posted some interesting facts about Red Dwarf stars. For example they are expected to burn for trillions of years before exhausting their fuel where as yellow stars like our Sun will burn out in about 15B years. That gives life a very long window of opportunity to arise on a planet orbiting a Red Dwarf. It is believed that approximately 65-75% of the stars in the Milky Way are Red Dwarfs.

Two potentially life-friendly planets found orbiting a nearby star

Red Dwarfs: The Most Common and Longest-Lived Stars

 

[Hunerwadel]

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But have you ever been to Rimmer World?

 

[82_VOL_83]

But have you ever been to Rimmer World?

I never watched the series but I am going to see if I can find it now.

Edit: Amazon Prime!

 

[VolStrom]

Two new Earth size exoplanets in the habitable zone have been discovered orbiting a Red Dwarf star only 12LY away. This is actually a pretty important find. They are close enough that the next generation of telescopes might be able to determine the make up of their atmospheres (if they have one) and determine if signs of life as we know it are present.

Also I have posted some interesting facts about Red Dwarf stars. For example they are expected to burn for trillions of years before exhausting their fuel where as yellow stars like our Sun will burn out in about 15B years. That gives life a very long window of opportunity to arise on a planet orbiting a Red Dwarf. It is believed that approximately 65-75% of the stars in the Milky Way are Red Dwarfs.

Two potentially life-friendly planets found orbiting a nearby star

Red Dwarfs: The Most Common and Longest-Lived Stars

I appreciate your post and your technical knowledge, but I have to laugh at the time frame:
Also I have posted some interesting facts about Red Dwarf stars. For example they are expected to burn for trillions of years before exhausting their fuel where as yellow stars like our Sun will burn out in about 15B years

In 15B years the dominant life on earth will change probably a few hundred thousand times. Humans are a flash in the pan in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Hunerwadel]

I appreciate your post and your technical knowledge, but I have to laugh at the time frame:
Also I have posted some interesting facts about Red Dwarf stars. For example they are expected to burn for trillions of years before exhausting their fuel where as yellow stars like our Sun will burn out in about 15B years

In 15B years the dominant life on earth will change probably a few hundred thousand times. Humans are a flash in the pan in the grand scheme of things.

Some people, not just SciFy writers believe that random human evolution may be near an end. Two thoughts are that we will somewhat direct what we become by genetic manipulation or perhaps by hybridization of man and machine or both . Whether that is good or bad is certainly arguable. If that comes about there is a possibility that more than one line of future human beings that may emerge. They may not necessarily even resemble each other.

When you said that you have to laugh at the time frame were you referring to the trillions of years Red Dwrafs (Dwarves?) can exist or the 10 to 15B years the sun is expected to exist?

 

[Hunerwadel]

I never watched the series but I am going to see if I can find it now.

Edit: Amazon Prime!

There are about 10 or 12 seasons of that show now. The wife and watched the first few seasons around 1990 or so. We enjoyed it but haven't watched any of the newer stuff. It had some pretty funny moments.

 

[VolStrom]

Some people, not just SciFy writers believe that random human evolution may be near an end. Two thoughts are that we will somewhat direct what we become by genetic manipulation or perhaps by hybridization of man and machine or both . Whether that is good or bad is certainly arguable. If that comes about there is a possibility that more than one line of future human beings that may emerge. They may not necessarily even resemble each other.

When you said that you have to laugh at the time frame were you referring to the trillions of years Red Dwrafs (Dwarves?) can exist or the 10 to 15B years the sun is expected to exist?

Humans have only been around for a few hundred thousand years. I honestly don't think we have more than a couple hundred years left.

 

[Hunerwadel]

Humans have only been around for a few hundred thousand years. I honestly don't think we have more than a couple hundred years left.

I share your fear. I sometimes wonder which would be better: Become extinct or face a post-apocalyptic dystopia.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Milky Way Collided with Dark-Matter Dominated Galaxy Less Than Billion Years Ago | Astronomy | Sci-News.com

I read that and it was interesting. Thank you for posting it. From what i can gather, absolutely every word of it other than the picture showing the different galaxies was hypothetical and hypotheses/predictions. Those are good, and a necessary part of discovery. They could be correct or incorrect about pretty much every aspect of that article, including dark matters existence. It may very well exist...but right now, the only reason they think it exists is because by our calculations, there isnt enough matter in the universe. So we made some up. That we cant yet observe. Not solid science.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

So which is it........a dwarf planet or an Asteroid? With a diameter of almost 600 miles.

NASA reveals new image of dwarf planet 'like nothing that humanity has ever seen before'

 

[Velo Vol]

The Apollo 11 documentary that aired on CNN last night was interesting. It was entirely made of footage/photos from the time of the mission.

I assume they will run it again, if you missed it.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

The Apollo 11 documentary that aired on CNN last night was interesting. It was entirely made of footage/photos from the time of the mission.

I assume they will run it again, if you missed it.

I saw some of it maybe a total of 12 minutes. I was more interested in the Travel Channel's updated UFO reports.
Here lately, the Travel Channel has had some good stuff on TV....need to check them out too if not already.

 

[Velo Vol]

I saw some of it maybe a total of 12 minutes. I was more interested in the Travel Channel's updated UFO reports.
Here lately, the Travel Channel has had some good stuff on TV....need to check them out too if not already.

Are there now travel opportunities on UFOs?

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Are there now travel opportunities on UFOs?

They did show some old 1936 Nazi Germany black & white video where they had built a flying saucer and a video of the thing flying about 100 yards. Rumors were that there was a crash of a UFO that happened in 1932 in a German forest. When they retrieved the crashed craft they did reverse engineering on the thing and built one that flew before the end of WWII. Americans found loads & loads of secret documents kept in a vault that was busted wide open. America brought a lot of Germany's leading scientists (see Wernher Von Braun) over here to work on our "Space Program". That space program was really Germany's because of all the smart guys from Germany figured out how to make rockets bigger and faster and how to take man to the moon.

 

[Hunerwadel]

They did show some old 1936 Nazi Germany black & white video where they had built a flying saucer and a video of the thing flying about 2 lengths of a football fields. Rumors were that there was a crash of a UFO that happened in 1932 in a German forest. When they retrieved the crashed craft they did reverse engineering on the thing and built one that flew before the end of WWII. Americans found loads & loads of secret documents kept in a vault that was busted wide open. America brought a lot of Germany's leading scientists (see Wernher Von Braun) over here to work on our "Space Program". That space program was really Germany's because of all the smart guys from Germany figured out how to make rockets bigger and faster and how to take man to the moon.

One of the great spoils of the war were the German scientists and engineers. Russia did get a few but the US got the lions share. The scientists we brought over did get some credit and were well compensated, especially Von Braun and his team. The Russians kept theirs hidden, almost imprisoned, and hardly acknowledged them. But they helped build the Russian space program.