Spoke with 3 past UT football players yesterday

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I got into a conversation yesterday with 3 past UT football who were Seniors under Kiffin. two of the players were starters and very well respected on here, the other was not in the rotation very often but seems like a hell of a guy. I wanted to give the cliff notes version of our conversation because I found it interesting.


1) Foster was a very weird dude. All 3 stated that multiple times. Went into detail how he would talk only to reporters in a Pterodactyl voice because he was pissed over being questioned regarding his fumbles. I had never heard of this so they told me to goodle it. Here it is Tennessee's Arian Foster Will Only Talk To People Who Speak In Pterodactyl | NCAAF | Tennessee Volunteers

2) Said that Fulmer was not driven at all by the time he was fired. Said he was done wrong though and that Karma is a *****.

3) Said they loved playing for Kiffin. Said Kiffin brought an energy that Fulmer hadn't. They would run from meeting to meeting and the Coaches would all be waiting in the room giving them high fives as they came in. Said it was awesome listening to rap music instead of the opposing teams song.

4) None were there under Dooley but had friends on the team. Said Dooley was a total jackass to players who weren't starters or the main guys but would give certain players anything they wanted and the whole team could see it. Said that no one liked him or respected him. Said even other coaches disliked him. Never lost control of the team because he never really had it. Had nothing on his resume to make any player believe in him when times got hard.

5) Said this team has no skill players right now. North and a few others will develop but this team is bare of field ready skill positions.

6) All 3 stated this Oline is extremely over rated. Great pass protectors but suck ass at running blocking. Said losing them will not effect the team nearly as much as people think because their run blocking is just not all there.


7) Said the players respect CBJ and that it is clear by watching the games he will get it turned around. Said people have no idea how far TN has fallen and how much he has to turn around. Said the players he has now are not mentally fit for his program and he will need his own style players to succeed.

8) Stated they have read Volnation but not that often. Said some players (and recruits) take Volnation more serious than others and yes it has been used as a told to both gain and lose recruits.

9) never asked them about the QBS.

10)This conversation was started because I was wearing my orange windbreaker into the gym and they walked up to me. Said it was nice to see Orange.
 
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I got into a conversation yesterday with 3 past UT football who were Seniors under Kiffin. two of the players were starters and very well respected on here, the other was not in the rotation very often but seems like a hell of a guy. I wanted to give the cliff notes version of our conversation because I found it interesting.


1) Foster was a very weird dude. All 3 stated that multiple times. Went into detail how he would talk only to reporters in a Pterodactyl voice because he was pissed over being questioned regarding his fumbles. I had never heard of this so they told me to goodle it. Here it is Tennessee's Arian Foster Will Only Talk To People Who Speak In Pterodactyl | NCAAF | Tennessee Volunteers

2) Said that Fulmer was not driven at all by the time he was fired. Said he was done wrong though and that Karma is a *****.

3) Said they loved playing for Kiffin. Said Kiffin brought an energy that Fulmer hadn't. They would run from meeting to meeting and the Coaches would all be waiting in the room giving them high fives as they came in. Said it was awesome listening to rap music instead of the opposing teams song.

4) None were there under Dooley but had friends on the team. Said Dooley was a total jackass to players who weren't starters or the main guys but would give certain players anything they wanted and the whole team could see it. Said that no one liked him or respected him. Said even other coaches disliked him. Never lost control of the team because he never really had it. Had nothing on his resume to make any player believe in him when times got hard.

5) Said this team has no skill players right now. North and a few others will develop but this team is bare of field ready skill positions.

6) All 3 stated this Oline is extremely over rated. Great pass protectors but suck ass at running blocking. Said losing them will not effect the team nearly as much as people think because their run blocking is just not all there.


7) Said the players respect CBJ and that it is clear by watching the games he will get it turned around. Said people have no idea how far TN has fallen and how much he has to turn around. Said the players he has now are not mentally fit for his program and he will need his own style players to succeed.

8) Stated they have read Volnation but not that often. Said some players (and recruits) take Volnation more serious than others and yes it has been used as a told to both gain and lose recruits.

9) never asked them about the QBS.

10)This conversation was started because I was wearing my orange windbreaker into the gym and they walked up to me. Said it was nice to see Orange.

The fan base is aware of all of this except for 8-10
 
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Kiffin's staff were full of great recruiters and high energy guys.

But when it came to playcalling and in game decison making, Kiffin couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag.
 
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sounds like a cliffs note version of everything but qbs and UT uniforms for the past 16,982 threads here in the main football forum of this place.
 
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I got into a conversation yesterday with 3 past UT football who were Seniors under Kiffin. two of the players were starters and very well respected on here, the other was not in the rotation very often but seems like a hell of a guy. I wanted to give the cliff notes version of our conversation because I found it interesting.


1) Foster was a very weird dude. All 3 stated that multiple times. Went into detail how he would talk only to reporters in a Pterodactyl voice because he was pissed over being questioned regarding his fumbles. I had never heard of this so they told me to goodle it. Here it is Tennessee's Arian Foster Will Only Talk To People Who Speak In Pterodactyl | NCAAF | Tennessee Volunteers

2) Said that Fulmer was not driven at all by the time he was fired. Said he was done wrong though and that Karma is a *****.

3) Said they loved playing for Kiffin. Said Kiffin brought an energy that Fulmer hadn't. They would run from meeting to meeting and the Coaches would all be waiting in the room giving them high fives as they came in. Said it was awesome listening to rap music instead of the opposing teams song.

4) None were there under Dooley but had friends on the team. Said Dooley was a total jackass to players who weren't starters or the main guys but would give certain players anything they wanted and the whole team could see it. Said that no one liked him or respected him. Said even other coaches disliked him. Never lost control of the team because he never really had it. Had nothing on his resume to make any player believe in him when times got hard.

5) Said this team has no skill players right now. North and a few others will develop but this team is bare of field ready skill positions.

6) All 3 stated this Oline is extremely over rated. Great pass protectors but suck ass at running blocking. Said losing them will not effect the team nearly as much as people think because their run blocking is just not all there.


7) Said the players respect CBJ and that it is clear by watching the games he will get it turned around. Said people have no idea how far TN has fallen and how much he has to turn around. Said the players he has now are not mentally fit for his program and he will need his own style players to succeed.

8) Stated they have read Volnation but not that often. Said some players (and recruits) take Volnation more serious than others and yes it has been used as a told to both gain and lose recruits.

9) never asked them about the QBS.

10)This conversation was started because I was wearing my orange windbreaker into the gym and they walked up to me. Said it was nice to see Orange.

Awesome stuff bud :good!: Did you happen to get anymore info on number 2? I'd love to know how all that when down from a player's view, as I've never heard a player who played for Fulmer not say they didn't love the man.
 
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Kiffin's staff were full of great recruiters and high energy guys.

But when it came to playcalling and in game decison making, Kiffin couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag.

I disagree. His arrogance is what killed him, but he would have been at least somewhat successful here had he stayed. He was so confident in himself that he thought he could just run up to USC, who lost 30 scholarships in three years, and have success. He was so arrogant that he refused to give the play calling abilities to anyone else, and this lead to him, as you stated, being a terrible game manager. He also wouldn't fire his dad when everyone knew by year 3 that Monta couldn't stop the option and screen passes while running his pro style tampa 2 defense. All these bad decisions lead to his firing, but he's a heck of an offensive mind and one of the best QB developers in college football. He's just not a good leader or a good game manager when he refuses to not call the shots, which wasn't a problem here since we had Chaney.
 
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I got into a conversation yesterday ....


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Kiffin's staff were full of great recruiters and high energy guys.

But when it came to playcalling and in game decison making, Kiffin couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag.

I disagree on the last point. I thought his play calling and game mgmt kept us in the Florida and Alabama games. Just thought that outside of his crooked recruiting schemes, he had no idea how to or no intention of building the UT program.
 
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Awesome stuff bud :good!: Did you happen to get anymore info on number 2? I'd love to know how all that when down from a player's view, as I've never heard a player who played for Fulmer not say they didn't love the man.

I will ask them.
 
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Somehow, I'm hesitant to believe this, only because I went to the gym with an ex UT player and former pro bowler. He has never approached me about UT football. We have talked about deer hunting

Former players just don't walk up to strangers and start spilling the beans about the program
 
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Somehow, I'm hesitant to believe this, only because I went to the gym with an ex UT player and former pro bowler. He has never approached me about UT football. We have talked about deer hunting

Former players just don't walk up to strangers and start spilling the beans about the program

That would make a good trivia question. Which former vol football player became a professional bowler?
 
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I got into a conversation yesterday with 3 past UT football who were Seniors under Kiffin. two of the players were starters and very well respected on here, the other was not in the rotation very often but seems like a hell of a guy. I wanted to give the cliff notes version of our conversation because I found it interesting.


1) Foster was a very weird dude. All 3 stated that multiple times. Went into detail how he would talk only to reporters in a Pterodactyl voice because he was pissed over being questioned regarding his fumbles. I had never heard of this so they told me to goodle it. Here it is Tennessee's Arian Foster Will Only Talk To People Who Speak In Pterodactyl | NCAAF | Tennessee Volunteers

2) Said that Fulmer was not driven at all by the time he was fired. Said he was done wrong though and that Karma is a *****.

3) Said they loved playing for Kiffin. Said Kiffin brought an energy that Fulmer hadn't. They would run from meeting to meeting and the Coaches would all be waiting in the room giving them high fives as they came in. Said it was awesome listening to rap music instead of the opposing teams song.

4) None were there under Dooley but had friends on the team. Said Dooley was a total jackass to players who weren't starters or the main guys but would give certain players anything they wanted and the whole team could see it. Said that no one liked him or respected him. Said even other coaches disliked him. Never lost control of the team because he never really had it. Had nothing on his resume to make any player believe in him when times got hard.

5) Said this team has no skill players right now. North and a few others will develop but this team is bare of field ready skill positions.

6) All 3 stated this Oline is extremely over rated. Great pass protectors but suck ass at running blocking. Said losing them will not effect the team nearly as much as people think because their run blocking is just not all there.


7) Said the players respect CBJ and that it is clear by watching the games he will get it turned around. Said people have no idea how far TN has fallen and how much he has to turn around. Said the players he has now are not mentally fit for his program and he will need his own style players to succeed.

8) Stated they have read Volnation but not that often. Said some players (and recruits) take Volnation more serious than others and yes it has been used as a told to both gain and lose recruits.

9) never asked them about the QBS.

10)This conversation was started because I was wearing my orange windbreaker into the gym and they walked up to me. Said it was nice to see Orange.

Did you tell them you were going to broadcast their comments behind an anonymous post?
 
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Kiffin's staff were full of great recruiters and high energy guys.

But when it came to playcalling and in game decison making, Kiffin couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag.

2009 georgia game.. that was a great bag to be in i guess
 
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Always interested in hearing recent former players speak. Having the luxury of living very near some current guys and knowing several of our former guys, some of their stories bring you back to reality. Good stuff. Thanks for posting.
 
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Kiffin's staff were full of great recruiters and high energy guys.

But when it came to playcalling and in game decison making, Kiffin couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag.

in his one year, didn't he? He had a crack staff.
 

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