Spring Practice

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(allvol@15 @ Mar 7 said:
i thought this thread was about spring practice?
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it was supposed to be originally, but it got off on some tangent in there somewhere....some spill over form another thread i think.....oh well what are ya gonna do right?
 
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(smokedog#3 @ Mar 7 said:
remember folks at this time last year fulmer was saying this was his best team ever. i can't believe in fulmer untill he shows some of the same stuff that we saw in the late 90's. i'm beginning to wonder if our talent in those years was so deep and great that it made fulmer look alot better than he really is. i know fulmer recruited those players, and i give him credit for that, but it seems in recent years he has been outcoached in the big games that matter. talent wise alot of other teams in the sec have caught us and they seem to know how to beat us. i honestly think fulmer is overated. he is the best recruiter in the sec, but a very average ball coach on the field. :devilsmoke:
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OK smoke. Do you agree or not that we overachieved in 2004? We were picked to finish 3rd in the east yet we won it and made it to the SECCG. How did he do then?
 
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Daring to digress again...but this time back to the topic. Judging by the reading, I'd say someone's been hanging around Ft. Benning or Paris Island. This team attitude tactic looks like it's right out of a drill sergeant's manual. Make everyone look the same, act the same, be the same, talk and think the same, and either win the same or suffer the same. If one screws up the unit pays. Not to say there will be blanket parties going on if someone drops a ball but I guarantee you that cohesion will be much better this year.
 
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beef i agree we overachieved in 04, but i think the rest of the east was plainly down that year. i can also say i honestly think georgia was the best team in the east in 04. as i remember it was a relatively boring game that we won 19-14. then we got spanked by auburn again in the sec championship game. if fulmer had won that game we wouldn't even be talking about all of this now because i would support him alot more. if we are going to go just by the 04 season to shouldn't we still have sanders and stephens they did great jobs. we lost 3 games that year and in all 3 of them the teams shut our run game down and we couldn't throw the ball. fulmer showed what kind of coach he was in the first half of the sec championship game by letting us get so far behind in the first half that we couldn't catch up. i've said it before fulmer is a great recruiter, but a very average coach. i didn't say terrible coach, but very average. and by the way folks without the punch by dallas baker that the officials blew we would have lost to floida at home in 04. we had a nice year in 04, not great but nice. terrible year in 05, terrible.. fulmer finishes with less than 8 wins this year send him and the entire staff packing. i simply think that some of you guys just give him to much credit. i compare him to ron zook. :devilsmoke:
 
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(smokedog#3 @ Mar 7 said:
i compare him to ron zook. :devilsmoke:
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All due respect smokedog, that's just insane. One terrible season and a couple of other subpar seasons(subpar by the standards of...dare I say....spoiled UT fans, including myself) and you compare him to a guy who, correct me if I'm wrong, couldn't win more than 7 games in a season with some of the best talent in the SEC. I'm not buying that one.
 
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Somehow I don't see the connection between a mediocre coach at UF and a coach with a National Title at UT...
 
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(MachiaVolli @ Mar 8 said:
"The dumbest people I know are those who know it all." ~Malcom Forbes
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Are you completely bereft of original thoughts?
 
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we had more talent than zook ever had and won a great 5 games last year. if zook could have won a couple of close games he would have won 10 games in a couple of seasons. zook plays the same style of ball fulmer does not to make mistakes don't lose. i love how everybody always come back to 98, WAKE UP it is 2006. things have changed tennessee hasn't tasted anykind of championship since 98. with out the luck of 98 fulmer would be a copy of john cooper of ohio state, who by the way was a average coach great recruiter just like fulmer. like i said you guys give the man way to much credit. what in 2016 are you guys still going too mumbling this same crap fulmer hasn't won any thing lately but we win 10 games every once in awhile and in 98 we were great. like i said if he doesn't win 8 games this year and our offense looks as bad as last years team he needs to go. i'm going to predict we will lose to cal, florida, georgia, alabama and lsu this year. not because i think they are better, because i have no faith in fulmer. i said something like this at the beginning of last year and everybody laughed. 7-5 sounds like phils number. do yourself a favor when tennessee plays a good team with a good coach take the other team and the spread it is easy money. 75% of the time you will be a winner. :devilsmoke:
 
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(Orangewhiteblood @ Mar 7 said:
There's absolutely nothing wrong with having high hopes and thinking positively about this upcoming season.
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This post makes the best point on this whole freaking thread. I too agree.Think positive.POSITVE.
 
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(hatvol96 @ Mar 6 said:
Interesting observation. I rarely remember mentioning our head football coach throughout most of this thoroughly enjoyable basketball season. It was only when these ridiculous "Cut's back, the wide receivers are catching ping pong balls, we haven't had anyone arrested, ergo we're going to win 9-10 games" threads started appearing that I felt it necessary to snap people back to reality.
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The reality is. Cut Is Back and it is what it is,there is someone here now that dots the I and crosses the T's. It's the little things that can take you from a championship team to a also ran.Discipline and attention to detail gets the job done more often than not.Not that i am drinking the orange kool-aid,but the same doubters that are all gloom and doom right now will be the ones that will be crowing loudest about the turn-around. In Big Orange country those are called Vandy and Bama fans
 
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(jakez4ut @ Mar 6 said:
And finally, i thought it was interesting that the coaches have pretty much said they are not going to come out and give "individual" progress reports. they will give "unit" and "team" reports. And when asked about team chemistry, CDC basically said that we have to develop a team attitude, when one fails we all fail. so in practice when one messes up, the whole team or unit is "punished".

sounds good to me...what do y'all think?
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I think it really depends on whether the team performs well early on because they need to buy into this approach for it to work over the long haul. If they win early, and by that I really mean the Florida game, then they will see its value. If not, you might find that the players grow to resent it as overly harsh and unproductive.

Seems like the coaches are emphasizing trying to create bonds amongst players sharing roles. Keep the O-line together, rate them together, etc. You all know much more than I about this -- was there a problem with that last year?

 
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i'll start being more optomistic when the football program gives the fans something to be optomistic about. all other ut programs i'm optomistic about, but the football program i just don't see what you guys see. to many holes to fill and the coaching i'm really skeptical about. heck i didn't even renew my season tickets, i'll watch the games from the parking lot it is cheaper and more fun. before everybody starts saying your not a true fan, i'm going down to watch the base ball team play akron $5 is heck of a deal. tennessee football just isn't entertaining enough for $55 a ticket that is just not right. especially to watch that offense. i'll stick with 8-4 or 7-5 untill fulmer proves me wrong :devilsmoke:
 
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Most of the rumors revolved around these types of issues. Parents of o and d linemen were saying the skill position players were getting preferential treatment. From what I have read, that was probably accurate info.
 
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(lawgator1 @ Mar 8 said:
I think it really depends on whether the team performs well early on because they need to buy into this approach for it to work over the long haul. If they win early, and by that I really mean the Florida game, then they will see its value. If not, you might find that the players grow to resent it as overly harsh and unproductive.

Seems like the coaches are emphasizing trying to create bonds amongst players sharing roles. Keep the O-line together, rate them together, etc. You all know much more than I about this -- was there a problem with that last year?
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an actual post regarding the thread's topic. thanks LG. :hi:
 
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