Spurrier stokes Urban Meyer-to-Notre Dame rumors

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Ole steve-o can still run that mouth, too bad he doesn't have the players to back it up anymore.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
At UF, he can pull in top 5 recruiting classes and still spend most nights at home in his own bed. It's not that easy up in northern Indiana.
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I don't think Charlie's fat ass is making too many trips around the country in regards to recruiting and it hasn't hurt him yet.

It's a matter of time before Meyer ends up there. It might be 2 years or 10, but he'll eventually be the head coach of Notre Dame.
 
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VolDad said:
There is no offseason when it comes to Steve Spurrier’s ability to stir things up.

Without prompting, the Head Ball Coach this week brought up rumors about Florida coach Urban Meyer bolting for Notre Dame.

In a long interview on the Paul Finebaum Radio Network, Spurrier called Meyer one of the nation’s top coaches, then digressed.

“They’ve still got that rumor going down there, Paul, that if he has about one more big year he might be the Notre Dame coach,” Spurrier said. “I know you’ve heard that rumor.”

Finebaum chimed in that “people at Notre Dame firmly believe” Meyer will jump to South Bend next year.

Meyer grew up in Ohio and has repeatedly referred to Notre Dame as his “dream job.” But he chose Florida over the Irish in 2004.

“It’d be surprising if he left, but who knows?” said Spurrier, the former Gators coach now heading South Carolina. “He’s accomplished so much. I mean, I left after 12 years because I just said, ‘Hey, I’ve done enough. Try something else.’ He may get to the point where he needs to try something else. Who knows?”

Confirming that he was speaking off the cuff, Spurrer added: “Maybe it was his dream job and not anymore. I don’t know.”

Spurrier stokes Urban Meyer-to-Notre Dame rumors | ajc.com
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man he can stir it up

SGMVols said:
I don't want him leaving with a 5-0 record against us. We owe him one before he goes anywhere.
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exactly
 
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i bet if urban does go to the dome,florida goes after the ole ball coach.i could see that happening.
 
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justingroves said:
It's a matter of time before Meyer ends up there. It might be 2 years or 10, but he'll eventually be the head coach of Notre Dame.
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I don't understand this logic. He could have gone there last time around so why didn't he? obviously he cares about winning a lot. why not stay at florida?
 
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Vercingetorix said:
I think he'll be tempted, but ultimately I think he'll stay at UF. Recruiting will be the biggest reason. At UF, he can pull in top 5 recruiting classes and still spend most nights at home in his own bed. It's not that easy up in northern Indiana.

Florida won't be able to out-bid the Domers, of course, but they'll open the wallet up enough that money won't be the biggest issue. Just think about how much they paid to keep Billy Donovan, and he isn't even that good a basketball coach.

Five years from now, who knows? History says that coaches are most effective early in their tenure, so in a few seasons the Gainesville-Meyer marriage may feel a little stale to both parties, and meanwhile the Domers will just be that much more desperate. He may go north eventually, but if I were wagering I wouldn't think it would happen for several years.
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Yeah, He only won back to back National titles....What a loser! :salute:
 
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droski said:
I don't understand this logic. He could have gone there last time around so why didn't he? obviously he cares about winning a lot. why not stay at florida?
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Because last time he was an up-and-coming coach from Utah and Bowling Green, and now he's a two-time national champion. Last time he needed to make the smart career move, which was obviously UF, but now he's arrived at the pinnacle of his profession. His reputation and financial situation are secure. Anything he does from here on out is playing with house money.

I still don't think he's going anytime soon, though. Not unless the Domers offer him something outlandish like $8m/year.
 
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VOLnMiami said:
Yeah, He only won back to back National titles....What a loser! :salute:
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And then, coming off all that momentum, proceeded to miss the tournament two years in a row. Donovan caught lightning in a bottle with one recruiting class, and then had the unbelievable good fortune that all of them came back for another run. When they left, so did Donovan's program.

I mean, two national championships in a row, playing in Florida, and all Donovan was able to turn that energy and success into was Nick Calathes and Dan Werner? Really?
 
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Vercingetorix said:
And then, coming off all that momentum, proceeded to miss the tournament two years in a row. Donovan caught lightning in a bottle with one recruiting class, and then had the unbelievable good fortune that all of them came back for another run. When they left, so did Donovan's program.

I mean, two national championships in a row, playing in Florida, and all Donovan was able to turn that energy and success into was Nick Calathes and Dan Werner? Really?
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The fact that Pearl is 7 and 1 against Donovan is all I need to know about Billy's coaching abilities.
 
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Sudeepvol said:
I don't know. I would believe it, but why didn't Urban go to ND when he had the chance in '04?
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I actually read an article on this. Meyer said he asked someone (I can't remember who it was) where he should go, and they told him that he should go to the place where he could win immediately instead of rebuilding a program and waiting a few years and that place was Florida. It would have been risky for him to go somewhere like Notre Dame before he had already proven himself at a higher level. He has done that now. He also said he wanted to be at a place where recruiting was rich and he could be at home most nights with his family instead of traveling all over the country.

That would definitely change if he went to Notre Dame. He would still recruit well because of his name, but he wouldn't be able to do it all in his backyard.
 
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after reading through a couple of threads

CLK could be in the catbird seat..

CUM to Notre Dame, and Bama gets NCAA sanctions over free cars...

It's all coming together
 
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Vercingetorix said:
And then, coming off all that momentum, proceeded to miss the tournament two years in a row. Donovan caught lightning in a bottle with one recruiting class, and then had the unbelievable good fortune that all of them came back for another run. When they left, so did Donovan's program.

I mean, two national championships in a row, playing in Florida, and all Donovan was able to turn that energy and success into was Nick Calathes and Dan Werner? Really?
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Do you think that those two ncships are all that he has accomplished?
 
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droski said:
I don't understand this logic. He could have gone there last time around so why didn't he? obviously he cares about winning a lot. why not stay at florida?
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His ego is huge and he wants another challenge. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy that likes to get comfortable. Eventually, he'll do that at UF and when he does, he'll jump to Notre Dame.
 
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justingroves said:
His ego is huge and he wants another challenge. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy that likes to get comfortable. Eventually, he'll do that at UF and when he does, he'll jump to Notre Dame.
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i suppose if the nfl isn't his next step that bringing ND back into national prominance could solidify him being considered one of the best coaches in history.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Do you think that those two ncships are all that he has accomplished?
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Of course not. But wouldn't you think that an elite coach ought to be able to build on those two championships? I mean, two consecutive trips to the NIT? The top programs -- which you're paying Donovan as though he has built -- don't have to take two whole years off after their best players leave. How'd Bill Self do this year?

And it's worth pointing out that Donovan might not even have the one win against Pearl if Lofton hadn't missed that game.
 
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droski said:
i suppose if the nfl isn't his next step that bringing ND back into national prominance could solidify him being considered one of the best coaches in history.
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No coach has won a national championship at two different schools. Can you imagine how the media's collective head would explode if somebody not only did it, but if the second school was Notre Dame?

He'd immediately vault right over guys like Paterno, Bowden, and Spurrier. You'd see shows like PTI arguing about whether he was a greater coach than Paul Bryant. Go right to the top of the Greatest All-Time List; do not pass go, do not collect $200.

Do you stay in the easy, fantastic situation, or do you give it up and take a shot at immortality? It's gotta be awfully tempting for a guy like Meyer, who surely thinks he could do it.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
It's not unthinkable. Meyer's legacy is already carved in stone at UF. His kids are older, which was apparently one of the factors that led him to take the UF job in the first place. He's a Catholic guy from the Midwest, and unless you know any Midwestern Catholics, you have no idea how much allure the Golden Dome has for them. Plus it doesn't hurt that
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One problem here,, the so called experts on TV feel like ND will have a big year coming up. That would leave Charlie looking good.
 
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If Charlie Weis were going to be a good college coach, we'd already know it. He's already been there four whole seasons. Maybe he'll stave off the inevitable another year, but eventually Meyer's going to be offered the job.

My guess would be that he won't take it when Weis gets the axe in the next year or two, but that he very well might when the guy after him inevitably gets fired too. By then he'll be about 50 -- 10 years into his tenure at UF, probably another couple of SEC championships under his belt, with another dozen or 15 years left in his career. I can see that being an attractive time to cash in, accept your so-called "dream job," and take a shot at immortality.
 
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He'll take the job next year or he'll be so guilt-ridden the rest of his life he'd be worthless wherever he worked. If you think Kiffin gets in his head, if he has any Catholic faith left in his body, he can't walk away when they come calling a second time.

Moreover, he's got great career smarts. He knew that he was inheriting a talent-rich Florida team that Zook recruited and could claim a national title with just a little work. Charlie Weis has been doing Zook-like work at Notre Dame for him, and Meyer knows that. He'll show up just in time to take the Glory (yes,that's a capital G when we're talking about ND winning championships).

He's also building himself quite a little hotbed to contend with in the SEC. Saban will have his number soon. Kiffin a few years thereafter and the beatdown and chest pounding he does this year will live in our memories forever.

UF is not as great long term as the ride has been thus far. His timing was ideal, but that will change. Miami and FSU will rebound. If you don't think he's worried about Kiffin, look at how up in arms the Gators are in defending a deadbeat Principal who thinks he can deny college scholarships as a means of salvaging a part of the Gator pipeline. And look how sensitive they are about the players we keep taking out of their state, and they should be.


Finally, Meyer doesn't seem to have the type of personality that grows on people. If you watch him enough, doesn't he just start to annoy you? He's the most pompous whiner in all of sports. Players can deal with whining and panicking for a while, but how many posters of a new coach of a 5-7 team can you put up before players start wondering what's wrong with their coach?

As for recruiting at Notre Dame, that's got to be the easiest part of the job. The overwhelming majority of Catholic kids in the country grow up dreaming to play for the Irish. Like Meyer, they feel guilty if they turn down the opportunity.

If the Domers knock, Meyer will answer the call this time. He simply can't say 'no' to eternal life... twice.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
No coach has won a national championship at two different schools. Can you imagine how the media's collective head would explode if somebody not only did it, but if the second school was Notre Dame?

He'd immediately vault right over guys like Paterno, Bowden, and Spurrier. You'd see shows like PTI arguing about whether he was a greater coach than Paul Bryant. Go right to the top of the Greatest All-Time List; do not pass go, do not collect $200.

Do you stay in the easy, fantastic situation, or do you give it up and take a shot at immortality? It's gotta be awfully tempting for a guy like Meyer, who surely thinks he could do it.
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I'm throwing up a little in my mouth reading this.
 
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utmba93 said:
He'll take the job next year or he'll be so guilt-ridden the rest of his life he'd be worthless wherever he worked. If you think Kiffin gets in his head, if he has any Catholic faith left in his body, he can't walk away when they come calling a second time.

Moreover, he's got great career smarts. He knew that he was inheriting a talent-rich Florida team that Zook recruited and could claim a national title with just a little work. Charlie Weis has been doing Zook-like work at Notre Dame for him, and Meyer knows that. He'll show up just in time to take the Glory (yes,that's a capital G when we're talking about ND winning championships).

He's also building himself quite a little hotbed to contend with in the SEC. Saban will have his number soon. Kiffin a few years thereafter and the beatdown and chest pounding he does this year will live in our memories forever.

UF is not as great long term as the ride has been thus far. His timing was ideal, but that will change. Miami and FSU will rebound. If you don't think he's worried about Kiffin, look at how up in arms the Gators are in defending a deadbeat Principal who thinks he can deny college scholarships as a means of salvaging a part of the Gator pipeline. And look how sensitive they are about the players we keep taking out of their state, and they should be.


Finally, Meyer doesn't seem to have the type of personality that grows on people. If you watch him enough, doesn't he just start to annoy you? He's the most pompous whiner in all of sports. Players can deal with whining and panicking for a while, but how many posters of a new coach of a 5-7 team can you put up before players start wondering what's wrong with their coach?

As for recruiting at Notre Dame, that's got to be the easiest part of the job. The overwhelming majority of Catholic kids in the country grow up dreaming to play for the Irish. Like Meyer, they feel guilty if they turn down the opportunity.

If the Domers knock, Meyer will answer the call this time. He simply can't say 'no' to eternal life... twice.
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And what if he doesn't?
 
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