St. Thomas Aquinas vs Upper Arlington

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Lockdown1 said:
Ohio Vol said:
Going into the 2006 matchup with Moeller, Byrnes had done the following.

Gone 57-2 over the previous four seasons
Hadn't lost in two years
Was ranked #2 in the country by USA Today
Had just defeated the #5 team in the country handily

Byrnes won 21-20. Moeller went 5-4 and lost in the first round of the playoffs after barely sneaking in.[/QUOTE]

Do you think the score would be that close this year?
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Two things that I do not follow:
1) Recruiting
2) High school football outside of Ohio, mostly because it's largely an inferior product. Across the board, Texas and Florida are the only states that are at or above the level of Ohio. Ohio has the best playoff system in the country and an incredibly high level of play to match.

To answer your question, who knows? I've seen nationally-ranked teams play less than stellar Ohio teams and get involved in a bloodbath. My personal favorite involved Independence from NC and their obscene win streak coming to an end at the hands of an Elder team that went 7-3 and lost in the first round of the playoffs.

If you look at something like the Herbstreit Classic, the non-Ohio teams are a "Who's Who" of high school football. But a good chunk of the Ohio teams are middle-of-the-road. Last night's game featured a national powerhouse against a team that'll probably go 5-5 and miss the playoffs (or, if they get in, a first-round loss). They got hammered during the preseason by a D-3 school, a school that frankly could play in this thing any year and be more than respectable.
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Florida High Schools down here are very competitive in football. There is alot of talent. Gran is going to be important for the VOLS in getting new talent for the VOLS in Florida. It sounds like Rubio will help at STA as he has connections at that school and lets not forget Monte's reputation while at the Bucs.
 
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the.one.the.only said:
We've got quite a few ppl from North Hall on this board, myself included. And North Hall > Jasper, Ellijay, every other mountain school :)
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I can't really argue with you, but don't lump Pickens in with Gilmer. Gilmer hasn't sniffed the playoffs for a very long time. We beat you guys my sophomore year. T.J. Pitts went for about 300 on us my Freshman year.
 
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yont sum iss? said:
I can't really argue with you, but don't lump Pickens in with Gilmer. Gilmer hasn't sniffed the playoffs for a very long time.
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Hahha you're right. I remember my senior year we almost lost to Pickens first game of the season I believe. They've had a few tough teams over the years. Now Gilmer, lol. I feel sorry for them.
 
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yont sum iss? said:
Is Gainesville going to win the state title this year?
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I really think so. Hell they should, as much as I hate to say it. If they don't, I think their fans need to look first and foremost at their head coach. All I'm going to say is if Bob Christmas had the talent Coach Miller has at Gville, NH would have a few state titles by now.
 
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Yeah, I remember when Kendrick Lewis moved there from Louisiana. They said because of Hurricane Katrina. They beat us 10-6 that year. I still say T.J. Pitts was the most impressive guy that I ever played against though. I didn't really play though, I was just a Freshman when he was a Senior at NH.
 
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yont sum iss? said:
Yeah, I remember when Kendrick Lewis moved there from Louisiana. They said because of Hurricane Katrina. They beat us 10-6 that year. I still say T.J. Pitts was the most impressive guy that I ever played against though. I didn't really play though, I was just a Freshman when he was a Senior at NH.
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Oh definitely, TJ was amazing. He wasn't the smartest kid though, which I guess is why he went to Memphis. Who knows why we haven't really heard about him since he got up there, I figured he would've started his sophomore year. Never could get on top of the depth chart, I guess. He's a RS senior now, I'm hoping to see him blow up this year.
 
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Upper Arlington is terrible. I dont know why Herbstreit matched those two programs up. In fact there aren't many good programs at all in Central Ohio. The best is probably Columbus DeSales and they are a Division III school.

They should have matched Aquinas up with a real Ohio team like Cincinnati Elder, Colerain or St Xavier.
 
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Add another USA Today Super 25 team to the list of fallen to an Ohio team over the weekend.

#4 Cincinnati Elder 49
#10 East St. Louis, IL 28
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
Upper Arlington is terrible. I dont know why Herbstreit matched those two programs up. In fact there aren't many good programs at all in Central Ohio. The best is probably Columbus DeSales and they are a Division III school.

They should have matched Aquinas up with a real Ohio team like Cincinnati Elder, Colerain or St Xavier.
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It really wouldn't matter who they matched them up with dude. Most teams in the country would have a time trying to beat that team. I really would like to see Glenville matched up with one of the south Florida team. Would make for a good game.
 
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Lockdown1 said:
It really wouldn't matter who they matched them up with dude. Most teams in the country would have a time trying to beat that team. I really would like to see Glenville matched up with one of the south Florida team. Would make for a good game.
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I'm not saying they would have beaten them. I'm saying they would have given them a much better game. Upper Arlington is not a good Ohio program anymore. They haven't been in almost a decade.

Aquinas played Cincinnati Elder last year and beat them 35-24 in a very good game.

A much better game than the 52-7 joke or whatever it was this past weekend. My main point was this was a terrible matchup for the Herbstreit. I imagine it wont last much longer without the Cincinnati teams playing.

Glenville is not a well coached or well disciplined team. They have great individual talent but they underachieve every year. They have never gotten further than the state semifinals in Ohio and I think they've only made it that far one time.
 
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I know Ohio State fans think football begins and ends in Columbus (in spite of tremendous and ever-increasing evidence opposing that view), but I didn't know Ohio HS fans felt the same way about HS football.

After that beat down by STA, Ohio should demand better representation. On the national scene, it looked like more evidence of what has been proven time and again by college football beat downs.

Ohio overrates itself in a near delusional way.
 
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utmba93 said:
I know Ohio State fans think football begins and ends in Columbus (in spite of tremendous and ever-increasing evidence opposing that view), but I didn't know Ohio HS fans felt the same way about HS football.

After that beat down by STA, Ohio should demand better representation. On the national scene, it looked like more evidence of what has been proven time and again by college football beat downs.

Ohio overrates itself in a near delusional way.
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Ohio High School football is good but only because of the Cincinnati and Cleveland areas.

Columbus area football is not very good at all. They'll field a good team from time to time but none are upper echelon Ohio programs.

And some of the old powers like Massillon and Canton McKinley, the old Arkon schools will never be what they once were because the areas are simply dying. Towns in that area of Ohio were all founded on Industry and they never adapted to anything else or any other way of life. If there is a "dying" state in the midwest I'd say it is Ohio.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
Ohio High School football is good but only because of the Cincinnati and Cleveland areas.

Columbus area football is not very good at all. They'll field a good team from time to time but none are upper echelon Ohio programs.

And some of the old powers like Massillon and Canton McKinley, the old Arkon schools will never be what they once were because the areas are simply dying. Towns in that area of Ohio were all founded on Industry and they never adapted to anything else or any other way of life. If there is a "dying" state in the midwest I'd say it is Ohio.
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I'd agree that STI (St Ignatius) versus STA would have been a lot better, but still, those Florida boys can play football.

Doesn't Columbus have some decent youth baseball teams, though?
 
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utmba93 said:
I'd agree that STI (St Ignatius) versus STA would have been a lot better, but still, those Florida boys can play football.

Doesn't Columbus have some decent youth baseball teams, though?
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I really dont follow baseball all that much, but I'd be inclined to say Cincinnati probably has the best baseball programs.

Looking at the big school state titles in baseball in Ohio...

Cincinnati Elder has 12
Cincinnati Western Hills has 6
Cincinnati Moeller has 5

Those are 23 state titles right there in the big school division in about a 60 year period and I know other Cincinnati teams have won the big school titles before as well. My guess is Cincinnati schools have won at least around 50% of the baseball state titles.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
I really dont follow baseball all that much, but I'd be inclined to say Cincinnati probably has the best baseball programs.

Looking at the big school state titles in baseball in Ohio...

Cincinnati Elder has 12
Cincinnati Western Hills has 6
Cincinnati Moeller has 5

Those are 23 state titles right there in the big school division in about a 60 year period and I know other Cincinnati teams have won the big school titles before as well. My guess is Cincinnati schools have won at least around 50% of the baseball state titles.
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I'm starting to feel sorry for Columbus. Surely they have something... Home of Sloopy?
 
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