Stafford and Moreno

#2
#2
The money may not be there next year. We will see many leave early this year.
 
#3
#3
moreno has to be gone. is stafford still considered a lock first rounder?
 
#8
#8
Reggie92White said:
I scratch my head on that one. I have seen enough of his games to think he is waaaaay overated!
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that's how i have felt as well. he has a monster arm definetly and a quick release, but lacks intangibles. of course i said the same about peyton when he was a senior.
 
#9
#9
I think Stafford will be the top pick of the QB's in the draft. He has a strong arm and tries to make plays. He makes dumb decisions when pressured and has bad mechanics when he's hurried. I do think he will be good though. He has improved every year he's been there. I think he probably goes. He's listed as the 2nd QB(ESPN) to go behind Bradford, but I don't see Bradford going.

Moreno has supposedly taken out an insurance policy for next season. I don't know if that is true or not, but he's listed as the 2nd RB to go by ESPN.

I think if one of them declares the other will follow. You can't pass up first round money.
 
#15
#15
the pac-10 had 3 top 10 teams his final season. and leaf had vastly inferior talent surrounding him.
 
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#17
#17
1 Michigan (51½ ) 12-0 1,731½ 1
2 Nebraska (18½ ) 13-0 1,698½ 2
3 Florida St. 11-1 1,599 4
4 Florida 10-2 1,455 6
5 UCLA 10-2 1,413 5

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6 North Carolina 11-1 1,397 7
7 Tennessee 11-2 1,320 3
8 Kansas St. 11-1 1,302 10
9 Washington St. 10-2 1,259 8
10 Georgia 10-2 1,121 12

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11 Auburn 10-3 1,025 13
12 Ohio St. 10-3 975 9
13 LSU 9-3 856 15
14 Arizona St. 8-3 773 16
15 Purdue 9-3 715 17

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16 Penn St. 9-3 706 11
17 Colorado St. 11-2 673 18
18 Washington 8-4 617 21
19 Southern Miss. 9-3 490 22
20 Texas A&M 9-4 421 20


I'd say the pac-10 was pretty good.
 
#18
#18
droski said:
1 Michigan (51½ ) 12-0 1,731½ 1
2 Nebraska (18½ ) 13-0 1,698½ 2
3 Florida St. 11-1 1,599 4
4 Florida 10-2 1,455 6
5 UCLA 10-2 1,413 5

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6 North Carolina 11-1 1,397 7
7 Tennessee 11-2 1,320 3
8 Kansas St. 11-1 1,302 10
9 Washington St. 10-2 1,259 8
10 Georgia 10-2 1,121 12

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11 Auburn 10-3 1,025 13
12 Ohio St. 10-3 975 9
13 LSU 9-3 856 15
14 Arizona St. 8-3 773 16
15 Purdue 9-3 715 17

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16 Penn St. 9-3 706 11
17 Colorado St. 11-2 673 18
18 Washington 8-4 617 21
19 Southern Miss. 9-3 490 22
20 Texas A&M 9-4 421 20


I'd say the pac-10 was pretty good.
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I'd say the SEC was better, and Manning performed better. At least the Heisman voters agree with me :)
 
#19
#19
leaf finished 3rd and had a much higher passing rating. if leaf had peyton's preseason pub he would have won the heisman.
 
#21
#21
droski said:
leaf finished 3rd and had a much higher passing rating. if leaf had peyton's preseason pub he would have won the heisman.
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You know what, you're right. Leaf was a far superior college QB even though he only started two years and only completed 56% of his passes his senior year.
 
#23
#23
droski said:
leaf finished 3rd and had a much higher passing rating. if leaf had peyton's preseason pub he would have won the heisman.
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Leaf: 210-375 56% 3637 yards 33 tds 10 int 161.18 rating.
Manning: 287-477 60% 3819 yards 37 tds 11 ints

I couldn't even find his Sr passing rating in the media guild, let alone on the internet, but I don't see how Leaf's could be that much (or any) better.
 
#25
#25
Stafford is the most overrated player I have seen in a long time. He is no where near as good as Greene was and will not even be on a NFL practice squad. There are a lot of QB's rated higher than him.
 
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