Stanford v USC - ???

[BigPapaVol]

Talking about the talent levels on the 80's Vandy teams or the talent on the Stanford team that went to the Rose Bowl in what 2001 or whenever it was has absolutely no bearing on the talent of the Vandy team or Stanford team of today.

OK. I'm saying this Stanford team has more talent than any of Vandy's teams of late because they just beat a team loaded with NFL football players. It ain't just coaching, or lack thereof on Carroll's part.

 

[justingroves]

OK. I'm saying this Stanford team has more talent than any of Vandy's teams of late because they just beat a team loaded with NFL football players. It ain't just coaching, or lack thereof on Carroll's part.

Ok. This loss goes directly on Carroll's shoulders. However, USC did not look like a team interested in playing football Saturday. Whether that is poor coaching or players that expected Stanford to just roll over and get beat is open for interpretation

 

[BigPapaVol]

Carroll definitely bears the responsibility, but I'm just not ready to give Harbaugh a bunch of credit. USC played like dog and got their hats handed to them.

 

[justingroves]

Carroll definitely bears the responsibility, but I'm just not ready to give Harbaugh a bunch of credit. USC played like dog and got their hats handed to them.

I'm in full agreement with you on Harbaugh.

I'm not expecting Harbaugh to lead Stanford to anything more than 6 or 7 wins a season.

Hat loves Harbaugh as coach, I don't see it.

USC wasn't interested in playing football Saturday.

 

[tvolsfan]

Which of their games leads you to believe that? Resounding defeat of that pathetic Neb team? struggles in every other game?

No, the fact that the 2005 UT team couldn't to anything the least bit impressive, except for one good half against LSU.

 

[BigPapaVol]

I'm in full agreement with you on Harbaugh.

I'm not expecting Harbaugh to lead Stanford to anything more than 6 or 7 wins a season.

Hat loves Harbaugh as coach, I don't see it.

USC wasn't interested in playing football Saturday.

he's clearly better than his predecessor and might be great. Wins like this one definitely help to turn the tide, but I'm not sold. Doesn't mean I won't be, but not today. I'd rather see them be competitive on a weekly basis, than sneak up on a huge win.

 

[The Dude]

I doubt it....However, their academic standards are too high to field a consistently competitive football team from year to year. Aiming for .500 and a low-level bowl more years than not is probably the most realistic expectation out there for Stanford.

I thinks they can be an every year, middle of the Pac 10 team. Granted they do have Ivy League admissions standards, the academic standards are not that much different when comparing Stanford with Cal, UCLA, and USC, per Newsweek's rankings.

 

[droski]

the furd still have the worst talent in the pac-10. that was a fluke game. this is the same team that got blown out by UCLA and ASU remember.

and as for those saying harbaugh will take some of our recruits. . . we don't really recruit the same players. They recruit nationally because of their admission standards.

and I didn't say he couldn't coach. I said he could be the best coach in college football history and still win only 5 games. I stand by the statement.

 

[falseintellect]

usc annoys me. apparently the coaches wouldnt shake hands with stanford, and the whole team/coaches just ran off the field?

and you should read some of the player/coach interviews, they dont understand how they could ever lose, they're USC!! watching the team and their fans so shocked was highly entertaining.

you cant win in any conference or against any opponent if you treat a team like their nothing and dont come to play. even if you're usc.

 

[allvol123]

Carroll might have valued this game enormously, but I guarantee you his players viewed it the way we view UT - Vandy.

Carroll is responsible for the results.