Still defending Instant Replay Officiating?

#51
#51
It was indisputable that the call on the field was incorrect, so, the refs fixed it. Yes, you couldn't tell the exact spot of the ball, but the QB didn't lose control, he wasn't reaching down towards his feet, nothing.

It was indisputable that the call was wrong, so, replay fixed it. Stop saying we should have gotten a terrible call to stand when everyone knows the correct call was made.
 
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GAVol said:
Why do people say it shouldn't have come down to an official's call? The fact is, it did. Plus, we suck and have no margin for error against most BCS opponents.
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The officials didn't cost us the game…I'm simply addressing the re-defining of indisputable.

Pulling a guard and telegraphing a 3 and 1 are the inches that truly cost UT the football game.
 
#53
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GAVol said:
Why do people say it shouldn't have come down to an official's call? The fact is, it did. Plus, we suck and have no margin for error against most BCS opponents.
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Because based solely on roster, we should have won that game way before the call was ever made. That and our clock management sucks something unmentionable.
 
#54
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UT_Tix79 said:
It was indisputable that the call on the field was incorrect, so, the refs fixed it. Yes, you couldn't tell the exact spot of the ball, but the QB didn't lose control, he wasn't reaching down towards his feet, nothing.

It was indisputable that the call was wrong, so, replay fixed it. Stop saying we should have gotten a terrible call to stand when everyone knows the correct call was made.
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But…they couldn't see the ball, therefore it was impossible for them to see the exact spot. If they can't pick an exact spot from the booth, then I don't see how they can arbitrarily re-spot on a replay. It makes no sense.
 
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Lexvol said:
The officials didn't cost us the game…I'm simply addressing the re-defining of indisputable.

Pulling a guard and telegraphing a 3 and 1 are the inches that truly cost UT the football game.
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fb should have just pointed and yelled where the ball was going to go. We get that we win. Hell, if Pig stands still instead of trying to block, we win.
Don't deserve it anyway.
 
#56
#56
People really don't understand how replays are supposed to work. It's embarrassing.
 
#59
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UT_Tix79 said:
It was indisputable that the call on the field was incorrect, so, the refs fixed it. Yes, you couldn't tell the exact spot of the ball, but the QB didn't lose control, he wasn't reaching down towards his feet, nothing.

It was indisputable that the call was wrong, so, replay fixed it. Stop saying we should have gotten a terrible call to stand when everyone knows the correct call was made.
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Let me say, I believe it was the correct call. My question is if the yellow line was the touchdown line and had they had marked him short, would the replay official have given him the touchdown? I've seen several calls before where it looked like someone has gotten a touchdown but because the replay official couldn't see the ball they wouldn't award the touchdown.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Unless the ball was around his groin, it was a first down. If we stop them sooner, we win. In fact, if we hold the ball more, instead of thinking we are Oregon, we win.
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I agree with everything you said however, I keep going back to this, it is indisputable evidence to over turn the play. I have seen numerous people say unless the ball was at his groin or knees or where ever then it was a first down. Unless there was a view that I did not see of the replay, I don't think anyone knows where the ball actually was therefore I don't think you can say it was indisputable...probable maybe but not indisputable.
 
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#61
I've seen several TD's where they couldn't see the ball, but the players whole body ended up in the endzone, so it was a touchdown...because there's no way the ball wasn't across the line, which is exactly what happened here
 
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UT_Tix79 said:
I've seen several TD's where they couldn't see the ball, but the players whole body ended up in the endzone, so it was a touchdown...because there's no way the ball wasn't across the line, which is exactly what happened here
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You are not getting the point it is indisputable evidence that the official on the field was wrong. In this case there was no evidence that the ball was marked in the wrong spot. I think it was but I have no evidence to prove that.
 
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UT_Tix79 said:
I've seen several TD's where they couldn't see the ball, but the players whole body ended up in the endzone, so it was a touchdown...because there's no way the ball wasn't across the line, which is exactly what happened here
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Bad comparison. In that case the ball just needs to break a single plane. Progress beyond that is irrelevant. In this case the official has to determine the exact spot of the ball in the field of play. How did the replay official determine the line of gain was the 33 yard line? The player is two yards long head to toe. He could have had the ball tucked under his chin putting the ball at the 32, or he could have had it wedged between his ankles putting it at the 34. The replay official simply just made up where he thought the ball most likely was - but he had absolutely no proof of that.
 
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ZZ13 said:
Bad comparison. In that case the ball just needs to break a single plane. Progress beyond that is irrelevant. In this case the official has to determine the exact spot of the ball in the field of play. How did the replay official determine the line of gain was the 33 yard line? The player is two yards long head to toe. He could have had the ball tucked under his chin putting the ball at the 32, or he could have had it wedged between his ankles putting it at the 34. The replay official simply just made up where he thought the ball most likely was - but he had absolutely no proof of that.
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This^^^^

Only the line judge knows when he ruled forward progress stopped and any forward movement after that is irrelevant.
 
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ZZ13 said:
Bad comparison. In that case the ball just needs to break a single plane. Progress beyond that is irrelevant. In this case the official has to determine the exact spot of the ball in the field of play. How did the replay official determine the line of gain was the 33 yard line? The player is two yards long head to toe. He could have had the ball tucked under his chin putting the ball at the 32, or he could have had it wedged between his ankles putting it at the 34. The replay official simply just made up where he thought the ball most likely was - but he had absolutely no proof of that.
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Great points. The official on the field ruled it was not a first down. The replay showed no visual evidence to over rule the ruling on the field.
 
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SaintLouisVol said:
No one seems to want to talk about the two fumbles Vanderbilt lost in the red zone as the result of replay.

That said, I HATE replay. Not because I think it has screwed Tennessee. I just can't stand how it delays the games. The breaks for TV are already unbearable, and now all the replay? I'd bet they spent 10-12 minutes last night on replay.
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The fact that it took reviews for the officials to get the fumbles called in the first place is beyond me. That was one of the most pathetic attempts of officiating I've seen, and the SEC has had some bad ones lately.
 
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Lexvol said:
There is no way in hell the guys in the booth could tell where that ball should have been spotted last night, even if he did get the first down.

Pig catch did not have indisputable replay to overturn either.
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Also, the Pig Howard catch should never have been reviewed. We snapped the ball way before they signaled for the review.
 
#70
#70
One of the recruits tweeted that the replay officials were suspended after the game. Has that been confirmed? SIAP.
 
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Morpheus said:
One of the recruits tweeted that the replay officials were suspended after the game. Has that been confirmed? SIAP.
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It will probably be Tuesday or Wednesday before we know anything regarding the alleged suspensions.
 
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Lexvol said:
But…they couldn't see the ball, therefore it was impossible for them to see the exact spot. If they can't pick an exact spot from the booth, then I don't see how they can arbitrarily re-spot on a replay. It makes no sense.
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I was watching the game live and not rooting for either team. When I saw the spot, I told my wife that "Vandy just got robbed". Those complaining about the call would be complaining the opposite side of the case had the teams been reversed. It was a first down by two feet. The refs in the booth corrected a mistake on the field. In a pileup, the field judges cannot see what's going on. They need help from the booth. They got it right.
 
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