Stop trying to force a #1 vs. #2 "NC" game

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LG, don't get me wrong, the idea of eliminating the bowl affiliations to get a 1 vs. 2 match up i'm all for.

it's what this has morphed in to i just don't like. but i'm against a playoff too. i think a plus one is what is needed.

to me, there are 4 teams that should be playing for the NT.........TX, OU, USC and FL. i wont' have a problem with OU or FL being NC. but can i honestly say that i think that that eitehr are better than TX or USC? no, especially since i already know TX beat OU.

anyway.......my rant was really just a retort to those that hate this system......i think we forget why we needed it in the first place, and what it was originally intended to do.

it's just grown in to something that's less desirable.
 
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and LG, one last thing, and i'm sure you can't relate cause the gators are in the big game......but it's hard to deny that the bowl season was much more meaningful even 10-15 years ago than it is today. when a 6-6 team plays on NYD.........we've lost something as college football fans.
 
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lawgator1 said:
But, I do think that the BCS is better than the old conference tie-in system to the 1/1 bowls. Plus, I don't see how people can complain too much this year with the OU and Fla. As national c-ship games go, this one has some pretty decent hype and good anticipation.
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At this time an argument can definitely be made for Southern Cal. Anything short of FL waxing OK (which I predict will happen) will fuel the Southern Cal fire.

As for the hype, it could be greater this year simply because a certain Big 10 team isn't involved.
 
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hatvol96 said:
BYU's "national title" is the single biggest abomination in the history of the sport.
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Sometimes it's better to say nothing, and seem dumb, than to post something , and prove you are dumb!!!!

BYU was the best team in the country that year.
Utah may the the best this year???
Why not? They beat 6 bowl teams. They beat the team that beat USC and they beat Alabama. BAD!

You and the "others" wish that D1 (FBS) should be SEC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac 10, ACC, and maybe Big East. While you are at it....drop Stanford, NWestern, Vandy, UK, Duke, NC State, Wake, Minnesota, UNC, UVA, Indiana, Baylor, and Miss St. from D1.

You are right........D1 should consist of about 30 teams. Thats it. The rest don't deserve to play D1 football. Those teams NEVER win against the big boys. :no:

The rest should be sent down to 1AA (FCS). That is stupid. :banghead2:
 
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salutethehill said:
In my opinion, 1984 Nebraska would have pasted 1984 BYU.
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Your opinion...and you are wrong. Huskers had very little team speed and never played an offense that could throw the ball all over the lot like BYU. Hell...Clemson beat UN 4 yrs earlier. MORE SPEED!
 
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peaygolf89 said:
Your opinion...and you are wrong. Huskers had very little team speed and never played an offense that could throw the ball all over the lot like BYU. Hell...Clemson beat UN 4 yrs earlier. MORE SPEED!
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let me get this straight, you're blasting the last two posts for their opininons, and you come up with, as a basis for your own opinion, a game that happened 4 years prior to BYU winning a national title 24 years ago?

just so we're clear.........:blink:
 
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peaygolf89 said:
Your opinion...and you are wrong. Huskers had very little team speed and never played an offense that could throw the ball all over the lot like BYU. Hell...Clemson beat UN 4 yrs earlier. MORE SPEED!
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1 - Clemson beat NE in 1982 to win the 1981 NC, but a lot changes in 3 years, so I don't quite follow.
2 - The only like-opponent NE and BYU had in 1984 was Wyoming whom BYU beat 41-38, while NE plastered them 42-7, but those types of facts are typically frowned upon.

1984 BYU didn't play a single team that finished the season ranked so it's hard to say how good they were (especially since they struggled in a few of those games). I will have to respectfully disagree with you and anyone else who claims BYU was the best team in CFB in 1984, peaygolf89.
 
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jakez4ut said:
let me get this straight, you're blasting the last two posts for their opininons, and you come up with, as a basis for your own opinion, a game that happened 4 years prior to BYU winning a national title 24 years ago?

just so we're clear.........:blink:
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Same kinda team. Same skill level.:peace:
Point is simple....."Big" schools are not always better than "small" schools. The players make the difference. Hell.....Wyoming beat UT! They were a better team (this year). Give the "small" schools some credit. Most are better than we think.
 
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salutethehill said:
1 - Clemson beat NE in 1982 to win the 1981 NC, but a lot changes in 3 years, so I don't quite follow.
2 - The only like-opponent NE and BYU had in 1984 was Wyoming whom BYU beat 41-38, while NE plastered them 42-7, but those types of facts are typically frowned upon.

1984 BYU didn't play a single team that finished the season ranked so it's hard to say how good they were (especially since they struggled in a few of those games). I will have to respectfully disagree with you and anyone else who claims BYU was the best team in CFB in 1984, peaygolf89.
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Ap and UPI voters said so. That may not be a great arguement, most are idiots, but they thought so.
 
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Hey, I have a lot of love for the small schools. The Utah's and the Boise State's of CFB are great, but that's because they've proven themselves by playing and beating tough teams. 1984 Utah, not so much.
 
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peaygolf89 said:
Same kinda team. Same skill level.:peace:
Point is simple....."Big" schools are not always better than "small" schools. The players make the difference. Hell.....Wyoming beat UT! They were a better team (this year). Give the "samll" schools some credit. Most are better than we think.
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yor opininon. the big schools ge the credit they get because they play big school schedules.

it's all fine well and good that the likes of boise st and Utah beat a big boy in a meaningless bowl game.

but no one is going to confuse, except maybe you, the likes of Wyoming, BYU, UTAH or BSU with OK, Bama, FL, NE etc........

now, you've called Hat dumb for his assertion. you told salutethehill he was just plain wrong.

and the only thing you have brought to the table is that BYU had more speed than Nebraska becausse in 1982 Clemson beat Nebraska or whatever.

freakin' genius. it's a wonder why people thing message boards, and the people that post on them are morons.
 
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jakez4ut said:
yor opininon. the big schools ge the credit they get because they play big school schedules.

it's all fine well and good that the likes of boise st and Utah beat a big boy in a meaningless bowl game.

but no one is going to confuse, except maybe you, the likes of Wyoming, BYU, UTAH or BSU with OK, Bama, FL, NE etc........

now, you've called Hat dumb for his assertion. you told salutethehill he was just plain wrong.

and the only thing you have brought to the table is that BYU had more speed than Nebraska becausse in 1982 Clemson beat Nebraska or whatever.

freakin' genius. it's a wonder why people thing message boards, and the people that post on them are morons.
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Come on....Don't yell at a fellow "Terrible Towel" waver!!!!:mf_surrender: (been to 4 Steeler Super Bowls)

My point is that the small schools deserve a chance. Just because Utah is in a non-BCS conf, does not mean they are not the best team. That was the point. BYU deserved the NC in 1984, and Utah deserves a chance to win it this year. That is all. Times are different with scholly limits. Teams can't hoard players like they could then. MTSU has players that can, and would start in the SEC. Don't over look the small teams.

GO STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:pepper:
 
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BTW......I never called anyone "dumb". I said the post was dumb!

The small schools play in the conf's that they are in. The "BIG" conf's should let the small schools in. Let Fresno St, Boise st, and BYU in the Pac 10. Let Ball St, Cent Mich, and Miami,OH in the Big 10. Let Marshall and Buffalo in the Big East. Let UCF, Troy and MTSU in the SEC. Those teams would love the opportunity. They can only play the teams they are allowed to play. Give them a chance. They will beat some teams......and HAVE!
 
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peaygolf89 said:
Sometimes it's better to say nothing, and seem dumb, than to post something , and prove you are dumb!!!!

BYU was the best team in the country that year.
Utah may the the best this year???
Why not? They beat 6 bowl teams. They beat the team that beat USC and they beat Alabama. BAD!

You and the "others" wish that D1 (FBS) should be SEC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac 10, ACC, and maybe Big East. While you are at it....drop Stanford, NWestern, Vandy, UK, Duke, NC State, Wake, Minnesota, UNC, UVA, Indiana, Baylor, and Miss St. from D1.

You are right........D1 should consist of about 30 teams. Thats it. The rest don't deserve to play D1 football. Those teams NEVER win against the big boys. :no:

The rest should be sent down to 1AA (FCS). That is stupid. :banghead2:
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You should take your own advice.
 
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ShowMeVol said:
Lamest fact EVER used to back-up someone’s point/opinion
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You obvoiusly have not read most of the threads on this site. Not in the top 100,000.:dance2:

I'm not THAT stupid. It was not my best point, but not as bad as MANY on here by others. I reached??!! So what!:)
 
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peaygolf89 said:
You obvoiusly have not read most of the threads on this site. Not in the top 100,000.:dance2:

I'm not THAT stupid. It was not my best point, but not as bad as MANY on here by others. I reached??!! So what!:)
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but still stuipd nonetheless? post often. it works for you.
 
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There is no in-between with college ball.

Either the pre-BCS system or a playoff with at least 16 teams, which will drastically reduce the gravity of the regular season.
 
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billbattle said:
As was Georgia Tech's in 1990.
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I would argue with you about that. The ACC was weak, but Tech still went undefeated and beat OOC teams like Nebraska, Georgia, South Carolina and Virginia Tech which were in varying stages of success at the time. Also, I think I remember Virginia being #1 in the country when Tech beat them.
 
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