Sufficient Wide Receiver Experience

#29
#29
The 'wr situation' discussions always annoys me a bit. Croom and Bowles are coming out of their red shirt years and North is arriving on campus as one of the biggest gets of UT's 2013 recruiting class. If they can find a qb to be even average at getting these kids the ball then we are in great shape.
Go check out how highly recruited Croom and Bowles were and you might agree.
The year we picked up Rogers, Milton, Hunter, etc. people were psyched. Matt Simms wasted that talent but experience wasn't a factor.
I'm optimistic and I think the cupboard isn't as bare as most people say.
 
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Webbvol32 said:
I agree that we have sufficient WR experience. We will also have 2 warm-up games to prep our youngsters in front of a friendly crowd before they go to the Zoo and Swamp. WR is not like the QB position. Experience isn't THAT important. I believe we will be fine. As you said,we have a stud OL and experienced RBs to relieve the pressure. I am confident CBJ will have our WRs ready by the Oregon and Florida games. GO VOLS!
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I think they will be fine for the reasons you noted. Also CBJs offenses are simpler and higher percentage . Last year we employed a 4 vertical concept and everything was meant to be a home run ..thus the big plays and the inability to sustain drives.
CBJs O is a 4 vertical attack but with emphasis on the higher percentage stuff / comebacks , crosses, waggles , screens . His receivers tend to be possession receivers that get YAK. It is very QB and WR friendly and really opens the running game ..the field in not just vertically stretched , it is horizontally stretched
Last years O was QB dependent...I think our new O is gonna be multiple and instead of making the QB look bad ...it will make him look good. Sometimes a 4 yard pass is not a bad thing
 
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majic73 said:
I think they will be fine for the reasons you noted. Also CBJs offenses are simpler and higher percentage . Last year we employed a 4 vertical concept and everything was meant to be a home run ..thus the big plays and the inability to sustain drives.
CBJs O is a 4 vertical attack but with emphasis on the higher percentage stuff / comebacks , crosses, waggles , screens . His receivers tend to be possession receivers that get YAK. It is very QB and WR friendly and really opens the running game ..the field in not just vertically stretched , it is horizontally stretched
Last years O was QB dependent...I think our new O is gonna be multiple and instead of making the QB look bad ...it will make him look good. Sometimes a 4 yard pass is not a bad thing
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Good post.
YAK = Yards After Katch?
 

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majic73 said:
I think they will be fine for the reasons you noted. Also CBJs offenses are simpler and higher percentage . Last year we employed a 4 vertical concept and everything was meant to be a home run ..thus the big plays and the inability to sustain drives.
CBJs O is a 4 vertical attack but with emphasis on the higher percentage stuff / comebacks , crosses, waggles , screens . His receivers tend to be possession receivers that get YAK. It is very QB and WR friendly and really opens the running game ..the field in not just vertically stretched , it is horizontally stretched
Last years O was QB dependent...I think our new O is gonna be multiple and instead of making the QB look bad ...it will make him look good. Sometimes a 4 yard pass is not a bad thing
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Cant go broke when you take a profit!
 
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LWSVOL said:
I agree with those points and is why I think those kids will be out there opposed to the freshman, at least for the majority of the year. but they are still learning how to play their positions and have a lot to learn yet
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We're installing a new offense...juniors and seniors would be "relearning" the position too.
 
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Trust Butch. He is the real deal. It's in his pedigree. Butch only needed a canvas to paint on and now he has it on Rocky Top! Fans, this is a big deal. Go to UTsports.com and read the story about the new metric that for the last two years ranks Butch Jones teams fourth in both overall coaching team efficiency and defensive efficiency only behind Nick Saban, Les Miles, and Brian Kelly.
 
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chattaboogie said:
So I was just reading Football Time and the receiver bios got me thinking about experience at the position.

Player Games Played In
V. Dallas 23
D. Young 19
Cody Blanc 11
J. Carter 11
P. Howard 10
J. Croom 3

Then you can include Brendan Downs who has seen action in 18 games as Tight End.

Justin Worley, the likely choice at QB, has played in 9 games the past two seasons and has attempted 110 passes.

I know this does not show productivity but it does show that we are far from throwing out a bunch of true freshmen. The players listed will all benefit from the offseasons they have been a part of as a member of an SEC team. I feel that these players have sufficient talent and were simply eclipsed by the incredible talents that have made up our passing game the last two years. I believe that this group has enough in-game experience to not come out shell shocked and completely incompetent as some posters on here seem to think.

Also, we field a veteran O Line and two veteran backs to help take away some of the stress.

I am looking forward to a consistent Volunteer offense this season.
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MORE LIKE AN ACC/BIG EAST TEAM! WE HAVE SUCKED THE PAST FEW YEARS AND NOT LOOKED LIKE WHAT I CONSIDER AN SEC TEAM! JUST SAYIN........:unsure:
 
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SeniorDrill said:
Trust Butch. He is the real deal. It's in his pedigree. Butch only needed a canvas to paint on and now he has it on Rocky Top! Fans, this is a big deal. Go to UTsports.com and read the story about the new metric that for the last two years ranks Butch Jones teams fourth in both overall coaching team efficiency and defensive efficiency only behind Nick Saban, Les Miles, and Brian Kelly.
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Behind Brian Kelly might be the biggest point. Time will tell. I think Butch will be a good SEC coach, unless the expectations are too high too soon. The SEC can make a good coach look ordinary because of the number of good coaches in the league.
 
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majic73 said:
I think they will be fine for the reasons you noted. Also CBJs offenses are simpler and higher percentage . Last year we employed a 4 vertical concept and everything was meant to be a home run ..thus the big plays and the inability to sustain drives.
CBJs O is a 4 vertical attack but with emphasis on the higher percentage stuff / comebacks , crosses, waggles , screens . His receivers tend to be possession receivers that get YAK. It is very QB and WR friendly and really opens the running game ..the field in not just vertically stretched , it is horizontally stretched
Last years O was QB dependent...I think our new O is gonna be multiple and instead of making the QB look bad ...it will make him look good. Sometimes a 4 yard pass is not a bad thing
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I hope they don't get YAK as they will get kicked off the team for drug use. Further, I've never seen a waggle.
 
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chattaboogie said:
So I was just reading Football Time and the receiver bios got me thinking about experience at the position.

Player Games Played In
V. Dallas 23
D. Young 19
Cody Blanc 11
J. Carter 11
P. Howard 10
J. Croom 3

Then you can include Brendan Downs who has seen action in 18 games as Tight End.

Justin Worley, the likely choice at QB, has played in 9 games the past two seasons and has attempted 110 passes.

I know this does not show productivity but it does show that we are far from throwing out a bunch of true freshmen. The players listed will all benefit from the offseasons they have been a part of as a member of an SEC team. I feel that these players have sufficient talent and were simply eclipsed by the incredible talents that have made up our passing game the last two years. I believe that this group has enough in-game experience to not come out shell shocked and completely incompetent as some posters on here seem to think.

Also, we field a veteran O Line and two veteran backs to help take away some of the stress.

I am looking forward to a consistent Volunteer offense this season.
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Great Post! Wish there were more posts on VolNation like this. :clapping:
 
#47
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LWSVOL said:
those WRs plus the TEs / HBs have a grand total of 47 receptions during their careers at Tennessee. Spending time on special teams counts as game participation but does not do a lot toward developing pass receiving skills on SEC football fields.

to show that another way, that is point 5 receptions per game played for our returning pass catchers..

I recognized an over sight. I missed getting Young's receptions. I've added those
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Good points and not like any have shown they could step up and start. I can easily see Wood Quinn being the starting TE, Croom, North and either Young, Howard and even Ryan Jenkins. Lots of potential, just needs to be shown and guys to step up. I would be shocked if Worley starts and finishes the yr as starting QB, and not sure if he is even first game starter. Honestly would be surprised if Worley starts and finishes the Oregon and Florida games. Just a matter of time before one of the 3 younger guys catch's on and passes him. JMO, could be so badly wrong and Worley shows out but really would be shocking to me.
 
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gnm53108 said:
We're installing a new offense...juniors and seniors would be "relearning" the position too.
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This was likely not clear in my previous post but this statement is the same as your statement. I mean the returning players have that same learning curve as new kids

"but they are still learning how to play their positions and have a lot to learn yet"
 
#49
#49
UT's WR's do not have enough quality experience. The best talents have no experience.

That can ALWAYS be overcome by great coaching. But it has to be "great" not just good.
 
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