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knucklehead_vol said:


Where we are headed imo.
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Yeah, but that G League ain't gonna pay their way back to college after they fail to make it out of G-League. Atleast college gives them something in their hip pocket. Otherwise, a G League wash out is headed to retail.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Honestly, what was ever the point of bowls? We've got 40 of them and only a couple matter every year. Going to the Sugar Bowl used to mean a lot more and it now it means nothing to a team that's been contending for the title for the last 3 years.
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Yeah, under different terms, GA/Baylor would be a great game.

Can't have playoffs and bowls. Or Bowls and BCS. Tarnishes the bowls. Either need to revert to the older style bowl system where there weren't as many and it had bearing to make them. Or, need to go full on 16 team playoff like FCS. Fiscally, how does a Bahamas Bowl even survive year to year.
 
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GVF said:
Yeah, but that G League ain't gonna pay their way back to college after they fail to make it out of G-League. Atleast college gives them something in their hip pocket. Otherwise, a G League wash out is headed to retail.
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At least the G League can help them make money and pay for college if they decide to go back to college and not be in debt. Besides, the top players will go. They will probably make enough not to have to worry about college and make connections in the sports world.
 
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knucklehead_vol said:
He may be an idiot, but he does understand how a lot of these kids think. I think you'll see a lot of kids going to the g league. NCAA won't be much fun to watch.
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They will go overseas. Tons more money and the coaching is on par with g-league coaching.
 
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GVF said:
Yeah, under different terms, GA/Baylor would be a great game.

Can't have playoffs and bowls. Or Bowls and BCS. Tarnishes the bowls. Either need to revert to the older style bowl system where there weren't as many and it had bearing to make them. Or, need to go full on 16 team playoff like FCS. Fiscally, how does a Bahamas Bowl even survive year to year.
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Sure you can. Do what you just said, revert to fewer bowl games.

The BCS/Playoff didnt' devalue bowls, having 40+ of them and every 6-6 team and in some cases some 5-7 teams getting a bowl bid is what devalued them. There was a time not even going 7-4 was a shoe in for a bowl, because there were only so many spots.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Sure you can. Do what you just said, revert to fewer bowl games.

The BCS/Playoff didnt' devalue bowls, having 40+ of them and every 6-6 team and in some cases some 5-7 teams getting a bowl bid is what devalued them. There was a time not even going 7-4 was a shoe in for a bowl, because there were only so many spots.
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Very true indeed. Typically, I still only watch the classics. And the Cotton Bowl is thin for me this year with the matchup.

I think there are a couple less this year actually. Not many but a couple. Excluding the NC game there are 39 post season games (including the semis which occupy bowl games). That's down 2-3 bowls.

IMO, there should be no more bowls than necessary to cover the top 50% of FBS. And that's pushing it. If you don't finish top half of available teams, no participation trophy.

A 16 team playoff would make it more like the NCAA/NIT format. At which point you pretty much kill the bowls that start with team rank 17 and down.
 
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GVF said:
Very true indeed. Typically, I still only watch the classics. And the Cotton Bowl is thin for me this year with the matchup.

I think there are a couple less this year actually. Not many but a couple. Excluding the NC game there are 39 post season games (including the semis which occupy bowl games). That's down 2-3 bowls.

IMO, there should be no more bowls than necessary to cover the top 50% of FBS. And that's pushing it. If you don't finish top half of available teams, no participation trophy.

A 16 team playoff would make it more like the NCAA/NIT format. At which point you pretty much kill the bowls that start with team rank 17 and down.
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Then you give it some meaning.
 
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If you dont like it dont watch it. I will watch every one I can. I remember how much eight months of no college ball sucks. It's far worse than these bowl games.

The reason it games dont have value is because everyone only values a national title. Starting and ending with the fans. Just look at UT fans. After two years of no bowl games we are complaining about playing Indiana who has a better record.
 
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GVF said:
Very true indeed. Typically, I still only watch the classics. And the Cotton Bowl is thin for me this year with the matchup.

I think there are a couple less this year actually. Not many but a couple. Excluding the NC game there are 39 post season games (including the semis which occupy bowl games). That's down 2-3 bowls.

IMO, there should be no more bowls than necessary to cover the top 50% of FBS. And that's pushing it. If you don't finish top half of available teams, no participation trophy.

A 16 team playoff would make it more like the NCAA/NIT format. At which point you pretty much kill the bowls that start with team rank 17 and down.
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I think it's the same number. The last bowl to fold completely was the Poinsettia Bowl after the 2016 Season. The Miami Beach Bowl ended after 2016 but became the Frisco Bowl and the Little Caesar's Pizza Bowl ended after 2013 but was replaced by the Quick Lane Bowl.

And I'm pretty sure 2 or 3 have been approved for next season. I know one is in Boston in Fenway Park, and another is supposedly coming to the new Rams stadium in LA. Now that may mean 2 or 3 current ones might end.
 
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It does seem like we are going to soon see the end of high level college athletics. But I can't bring myself to criticize 19 year old kids with an opportunity to make millions, maybe tens of millions, if they go pro earlier than college fans wished.
 
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GVF said:
Fiscally, how does a Bahamas Bowl even survive year to year.
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Honestly, because football games at that level are cheap programming. When you start talking SEC rights or whatever yes it is big money but I am sure ESPN didn't pony up much for Bahamas bowl rights?

As long as it is enough for the organizers to cover their costs then I say live and let live.

I end up watching 3-4 or more bowl games a year where I care absolutely nothing about either team and don't care who wins or loses.

Why? Because there is nothing else on and I am burned out of the family/holiday things and just wanna chill for a few hours.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Honestly, what was ever the point of bowls? We've got 40 of them and only a couple matter every year. Going to the Sugar Bowl used to mean a lot more and it now it means nothing to a team that's been contending for the title for the last 3 years.
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Yet there’s over a dozen threads in the FF about UT’s upcoming bowl game.

Bama and UGA fans aren’t excited about their bowl game. Some UF fans aren’t juiced about playing Virginia even though it’s in a NY6 bowl.

UT fans are excited given how the season started.

It’s all about expectations.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Honestly, what was ever the point of bowls? We've got 40 of them and only a couple matter every year. Going to the Sugar Bowl used to mean a lot more and it now it means nothing to a team that's been contending for the title for the last 3 years.
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The prestigious bowl of old has both teams coming off a loss, that has something to do with it. They need to expand the playoff and lobby for interesting matchups for prestigious bowl games. The bowl system just doesn't work anymore if you have teams coming off losses playing in the best ones.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Yet there’s over a dozen threads in the FF about UT’s upcoming bowl game.

Bama and UGA fans aren’t excited about their bowl game. Some UF fans aren’t juiced about playing Virginia even though it’s in a NY6 bowl.

UT fans are excited given how the season started.

It’s all about expectations.
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Yeah, I don't get it. I'll watch our bowl game but the only reason I actually care about it is it's good to get our young guys an extra month of practice. If we lose, I care too, because that's fkn embarrassing. If we win, there is literally nothing to boast.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Yet there’s over a dozen threads in the FF about UT’s upcoming bowl game.

Bama and UGA fans aren’t excited about their bowl game. Some UF fans aren’t juiced about playing Virginia even though it’s in a NY6 bowl.

UT fans are excited given how the season started.

It’s all about expectations.
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Dude, I could start a thread about how a player got a hangnail in practice and somehow it would be blamed on Memphis and would be 1k posts. I could post a picture of a turd I dropped this morning looked like a football and it would get 1k posts. Some on the FF post over and over and argue about their own arguement without realizing it.
 
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GVF said:
Yeah, under different terms, GA/Baylor would be a great game.

Can't have playoffs and bowls. Or Bowls and BCS. Tarnishes the bowls. Either need to revert to the older style bowl system where there weren't as many and it had bearing to make them. Or, need to go full on 16 team playoff like FCS. Fiscally, how does a Bahamas Bowl even survive year to year.
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I don't understand the new or old bowl system. We accepted it because it was all we knew, but it's crap. You'd have to reduce it 10 bowls at the most for me to get excited about all/most of them, and I'd still be left asking "but why don't we have a playoff, again?"

The bowl system made a lot more sense 70 years ago when travel wasn't convenient and there was far less $ and interest fueling everything. We just kept on doing it that way because that's the way it was.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Yeah, I don't get it. I'll watch our bowl game but the only reason I actually care about it is it's good to get our young guys an extra month of practice. If we lose, I care too, because that's fkn embarrassing. If we win, there is literally nothing to boast.
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If our teams are in bowl games, chances are we watch, regardless of how meaningless the bowl game is in the bigger picture.
 
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