Supreme Court upholds ObamaCare.

[lawgator1]

Others say It's not the supreme courts job to protect people from consequences of their political choices.

I'd be one of those.

 

[Professor Nono]

Others say It's not the supreme courts job ato protect people from consequences of their political choices.

Dang. Someone has a brain around here....

Do you folks want to know what a better solution would have been? Anybody out there ever heard of ERISA?

 

[lawgator1]

Dang. Someone has a brain around here....

Do you folks want to know what a better solution would have been? Anybody out there ever heard of ERISA?

Careful. Far right on this board does think that.

If they don't like the law, that is.

If they do like it, they are all about separation of powers.

 

[Professor Nono]

Far right, far left. These are tearing our country asunder.

 

[lawgator1]

Far right, far left. These are tearing our country asunder.

Agreed

 

[BigPapaVol]

Agreed

So you've chosen the centrist approach?

 

[vols4sure]

Agreed

Where is OE when you need him for the donkey and clown pictures.

 

[NEO]

Comments like this make me cringe because they are based on such a huge mistaken assumption.

Right now your employer doesn't have to provide insurance. He/it/she does because its a benefit that attracts good employees. If your employer wanted to, they'd just stop offering it and be a less competitive employer to potential employees.

That isn't going to change because there is an option to pay the tax. I mean, they could have just stopped offering it, anyway. The law doesn't change that fact.

In fact, if anything, over time the law will have the effect of broadening the universe of people paying. Costs of insurance will go up because health care costs go up, but not as much as it would have if the pool of contirbutors remained small, and got smaller.

Yes it does.

I employee more than 50 and will get hit $2,000 dollars on everyone that I don't have health insurance on. Well, I would if I was still going to be here which I won't.

 

[theutvolunteers]

Yes it does.

I employee more than 50 and will get hit $2,000 dollars on everyone that I don't have health insurance on. Well, I would if I was still going to be here which I won't.

So rather than provide insurance for employees your leaving the country?

 

[NEO]

So rather than provide insurance for employees your leaving the country?

I net roughly nine dollars per telemarketer per hr before factoring in rent phones etc. it would drive my cashflow down too much so no. I know this is tough for some to get but the objective of a business is to make as much money possible.

 

[therealUT]

I net roughly nine dollars per telemarketer per hr before factoring in rent phones etc. it would drive my cashflow down too much so no. I know this is tough for some to get but the objective of a business is to make as much money possible.

It is always easy to be 'philanthropic' with other persons' money.

 

[BigPapaVol]

So rather than provide insurance for employees your leaving the country?

Question borne of pure lack of understanding. Amazingly enough, your experience is exactly on par with that of our president.

 

[BeecherVol]

So you've chosen the centrist approach?

I doubt LG has decided who hes gonna vote for.

 

[BigPapaVol]

I doubt LG has decided who hes gonna vote for.

Obviously.

 

[theutvolunteers]

It is always easy to be 'philanthropic' with other persons' money.

My family had a business for 60 years. Always provided insurance. My father recently sold most of it.

 

[BigPapaVol]

My family had a business for 60 years. Always provided insurance. My father recently sold most of it.

Maybe you've noticed some changes of late.

 

[theutvolunteers]

Question borne of pure lack of understanding. Amazingly enough, your experience is exactly on par with that of our president.

What am I not understanding? It sounds like that is exactly what he's doing.

 

[BigPapaVol]

What am I not understanding? It sounds like that is exactly what he's doing.

You don't understand the cost of employees, nor do you understand call centers.

 

[theutvolunteers]

I certainly don't know anything about a call center.

 

[NEO]

I certainly don't know anything about a call center.

My turn over is very very high due to the type of person who applies for such spots. The paperwork alone would be insane due to this. I wish I could but cant. I am moving it though more due to work ethic here than anything else. They actually want me there. I can also afford to pay the highest wage avetage overthere and here my margins force me into lower income workers. There are many reasons.,obamacare is just one.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Dont quite understand the first question.

Ok...

 

[NEO]

Ok...

I get the why take sand to the beach part.

Dont get the if your married part.

I guess I missed something.

 

[dukes_of_maggard]

at least we've moved on from the birther stuff and are actually talking about S*** that matters

 

[myrobbins7]

Fact-Checking Romney: Does Health Reform Cut Medicare, Levy $500 Billion Tax?



Fact-Checking Romney: Does Health Reform Cut Medicare, Levy $500 Billion Tax? - ABC News

 

[BigPapaVol]

Fact-Checking Romney: Does Health Reform Cut Medicare, Levy $500 Billion Tax?



Fact-Checking Romney: Does Health Reform Cut Medicare, Levy $500 Billion Tax? - ABC News

rather than refute it, the argument from the administration was that it expect HC costs to go down. Good grief.

Do they not yet realize that the incumbent doesn't get to run a second time in pure conjecture?