Taliban Taking Over Afghanistan - Does anyone care?

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I’m still struggling to understand this.

What did she achieve by not reading the names?
And was that of greater political value than the negative value of the political fall out?

Just makes no sense to me.

It’s hard to imagine someone would be that tone deaf.

But this is Pelosi. From San Francisco.

…and that at least provides some sort of explanation.
 
Evidently they expect Austin and Milley to to be. I realize when military commanders fail they get canned or replaced. This was a huge undertaking and it involved more than just the military. This was bye and large an intelligence failure. I don't excuse Biden. It happened on his watch and he has to take the heat. I think this rises to the level of a congressional inquiry or investigation of the military, the IC and the President. People get tired of congressional investigations but it is their job.
When you look at a list of weapons that were abandoned it rises to the level of treason.
 
Dawn Of A 20-year Disaster: It was the Atrocity That Triggered a chain of events that Led To This Week's US Humiliation In Kabul. Exactly two decades on, the story of 9/11 will shock you anew in this gut-wrenching account of horror from a clear blue sky

  • Two decades on from the 9/11 terror attack, a detailed account will shock you
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In 2001, news of the plot leaked: a CIA intelligence report warned that something ‘very, very, very, very’ big was imminent. As the CIA boss George Tenet said later: ‘The system was blinking red.’ Pictured: Explosions rock the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, after the towers were hit by two planes

Two decades on, the story of 9/11 will shock you anew in this gut-wrenching account | Daily Mail Online
 
Battle for Afghanistan’s last bastion of freedom: Resistance Fighters 'Kill dozens of Taliban militants' trying to enter their Panjshir Valley territory

Resistance fighters in the Panjshir say they have killed dozens of Taliban who tried to advance into a narrow gorge at the entrance to the valley today.

The rugged snow-capped valley, which begins around 50 miles north of Kabul, is the last bastion of freedom in Afghanistan.

The National Resistance Front (NRF), comprising an ethnic Tajik militia and former Afghan security forces, have vowed to defend the enclave as the Islamist group say they have it surrounded.

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Resistance fighters in the Panjshir Valley today boasting of repelling the Taliban from the Shalang Pass, another major strategic artery through the region. Behind them an old Soviet tank. The region is a graveyard of old Soviet weaponry from the militia's successful defence in the 1980s

Afghanistan: Resistance fighters 'kill dozens of Taliban militants' trying to enter Panjshir Valley | Daily Mail Online
 
Battle for Afghanistan’s last bastion of freedom: Resistance Fighters 'Kill dozens of Taliban militants' trying to enter their Panjshir Valley territory

Resistance fighters in the Panjshir say they have killed dozens of Taliban who tried to advance into a narrow gorge at the entrance to the valley today.

The rugged snow-capped valley, which begins around 50 miles north of Kabul, is the last bastion of freedom in Afghanistan.

The National Resistance Front (NRF), comprising an ethnic Tajik militia and former Afghan security forces, have vowed to defend the enclave as the Islamist group say they have it surrounded.

47378063-9947627-image-a-26_1630508132255.jpg

Resistance fighters in the Panjshir Valley today boasting of repelling the Taliban from the Shalang Pass, another major strategic artery through the region. Behind them an old Soviet tank. The region is a graveyard of old Soviet weaponry from the militia's successful defence in the 1980s

Afghanistan: Resistance fighters 'kill dozens of Taliban militants' trying to enter Panjshir Valley | Daily Mail Online
Hell yeah! Glad the Taliban doesn't have US artillery, tanks, and choppers to use against them.
 
Battle for Afghanistan’s last bastion of freedom: Resistance Fighters 'Kill dozens of Taliban militants' trying to enter their Panjshir Valley territory

Resistance fighters in the Panjshir say they have killed dozens of Taliban who tried to advance into a narrow gorge at the entrance to the valley today.

The rugged snow-capped valley, which begins around 50 miles north of Kabul, is the last bastion of freedom in Afghanistan.

The National Resistance Front (NRF), comprising an ethnic Tajik militia and former Afghan security forces, have vowed to defend the enclave as the Islamist group say they have it surrounded.

47378063-9947627-image-a-26_1630508132255.jpg

Resistance fighters in the Panjshir Valley today boasting of repelling the Taliban from the Shalang Pass, another major strategic artery through the region. Behind them an old Soviet tank. The region is a graveyard of old Soviet weaponry from the militia's successful defence in the 1980s

Afghanistan: Resistance fighters 'kill dozens of Taliban militants' trying to enter Panjshir Valley | Daily Mail Online

The Biden administration has turned on them and seems to be supporting the Taliban.
 
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Yes you do. He is the guy in charge or he isn’t. He gets blame and credit, fair or not.

If he doesn’t get credit for us finally leaving, then who does? Who made that call if Biden didn’t?

And I guess now we are believing his ramblings? Or is it just certain parts now?

Maybe the same people who won't let him take other questions wouldn't let biden have input into the exit strategy ... and for the same reason. You remember obama's claims about joe and screwing stuff up. Politely speaking, joe would screw up a cast iron anvil with a rubber hammer.
 
A few pages back we were told by LG that the vast, vast # of Afghans that got out were the ones who helped us. Looks like we missed a few.

Majority of Interpreters, Other U.S. Visa Applicants Were Left Behind in Afghanistan

WASHINGTON—The U.S. left behind the majority of Afghan interpreters and others who applied for visas to flee Afghanistan, a senior State Department official said on Tuesday, despite frantic efforts to evacuate those at risk of Taliban retribution in the final weeks of the airlift.

In the early days of the evacuation effort, thousands of Afghans crowded Kabul’s airport seeking a way to flee the country. Some made it through without paperwork, while American citizens and visa applicants were unable to enter.

The U.S. still doesn’t have reliable data on who was evacuated, nor for what type of visas they may qualify, the official said, but initial assessments suggested most visa applicants didn’t make it through the crush at the airport.
“I would say it’s the majority of them,” the official said. “Just based on anecdotal information about the populations we were able to support.”

There's another black comedy you might enjoy called "The Loved One". It's a cynical look about funeral business in LA, and what they face when the cemetery is full, there's no continuing revenue stream, and the land has dramatically increased in value.

There are a couple of really good quotes that come to mind and fit with the Afghan exit debacle: "They gave me this ticket, so I thought I'd come here. I mean it was either Los Angeles or Calcutta and I thought, what the hell. " "There's got to be a way to get those stiffs off my property."

The first one nails the whole planning bit, and what Afghans might be thinking. The second one comes to mind when you talk about just who the hell did we fly out of Afghanistan if we took number of people biden claims but didn't even come close to getting the people we should have evacuated. Seems like it would have been a better plan to take people being processed for visas than just grab nameless faces from the crowds. This would be comedy if it weren't serious. It's almost like you release all the convicts from a prison and keep the parolees.
 
When you look at a list of weapons that were abandoned it rises to the level of treason.
Treason by who? The Afghan National Army? I don't think our laws apply to them.

Anything we "abandoned" was reportedly rendered inoperable, but the Taliban took what we had armed the ANA with when they surrendered.
 

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