Tebow would change...

#27
#27
GahLee said:
Look at how he fared against 2 NFL type defenses.

Alabama and UT, not so hot. Best thing he did was running the ball, he won't run past or through players at the next level. AT least not at the QB position.
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They are schemed like the NFL.

In no way is any college defense even close to the speed of the NFL.

If he faces it in practice and in games week in and week out, he may adjust. You can't tell with him, or anybody else, until they get there. It doesn't matter if you play four years in the SEC.
 
#28
#28
catfish said:
EXACTLY? it tells me i've lived in spain for the better part of college football season and don't get to see or hear tebow much.

even still, i doubt i would have memorized anything the kid said. frankly because nobody in the college football universe says anything thats really worth remembering, including kiffy cakes.
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exactly he's just as stupid as the average football player. people need to stop turning him into something he isn't.
 
#29
#29
milohimself said:
They are schemed like the NFL.

In no way is any college defense even close to the speed of the NFL.

If he faces it in practice and in games week in and week out, he may adjust. You can't tell with him, or anybody else, until they get there. It doesn't matter if you play four years in the SEC.
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You just argued my point, he didn't do well against either of them and they are not even comparable to what he would see in the NFL.
 
#30
#30
droski said:
exactly he's just as stupid as the average football player. people need to stop turning him into something he isn't.
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translation: he's been the best player on a hated rival that's spanked my team 5 years in a row and we'll never get another chance to beat him, so this is how i deal with it.
 
#32
#32
catfish said:
translation: he's been the best player on a hated rival that's spanked my team 5 years in a row and we'll never get another chance to beat him, so this is how i deal with it.
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Who does your loyalty belong too?

I see it both ways, he has been hyped to the point of being a saint and the greatest player of all time.

Good kid, good player.

Anyone speaking on his intelligence is going of assumption or speculation. Hard to gauge intelligence when all your talking about is football.
 
#33
#33
catfish said:
translation: he's been the best player on a hated rival that's spanked my team 5 years in a row and we'll never get another chance to beat him, so this is how i deal with it.
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Picking up where two bits left off, and failing where two bits left off.
 
#37
#37
GahLee said:
I disagree, it is not impossible to gauge. Comparing VY's mechanics to TT isn't fair, VY may not have had the best but they weren't as bad as TT.

By the way, VY is on a nice run, but it's easy to throw the ball when you have a RB going for a 150 every game. Just saying.
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I think Tebow has more arm strength than VY. I remember watching VY play at Texas and he was dominating, but it seemed like every pass had some air under it.
 
#38
#38
milohimself said:
And mechanics are absolutely something that can be learned by anybody willing to listen.
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I wouldn't call it absolute. Often bad mechanics are so ingrained in an athlete that they show up even after they've supposedly been corrected, especially during pressure situations.
 
#39
#39
GahLee said:
Who does your loyalty belong too?

I see it both ways, he has been hyped to the point of being a saint and the greatest player of all time.

Good kid, good player.

Anyone speaking on his intelligence is going of assumption or speculation. Hard to gauge intelligence when all your talking about is football.
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gator.

thank you, good post.

explain to droski please.
 
#40
#40
The Dude said:
I wouldn't call it absolute. Often bad mechanics are so ingrained in an athlete that they show up even after they've supposedly been corrected, especially during pressure situations.
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exactly. i'm sure they've tried to shorten his delivery.
 
#42
#42
tvolsfan said:
I think Tebow has more arm strength than VY. I remember watching VY play at Texas and he was dominating, but it seemed like every pass had some air under it.
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Tim has a good arm, no doubt. He won't be nearly as good as VY is right now...I like VY, I like him a lot but that isn't saying all too much.
 
#44
#44
droski said:
exactly. i'm sure they've tried to shorten his delivery.
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That's what I don't get. Don't people get that if his delivery could be altered, he probably would have worked on it by now?
 
#45
#45
GahLee said:
You just argued my point, he didn't do well against either of them and they are not even comparable to what he would see in the NFL.
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I didn't argue for you, yours is completely invalid. I am not about to look it up, but I'm sure there are plenty of examples throughout the years of college QB's who struggled against good defenses who went on to be anything from a serviceable starter to a pro bowl QB.

Ask any draft scout, and I'm certain they'll tell you QB is among the most difficult positions to scout since there are such a huge variety of factors that contribute to a QB's success or failure.

When Vince Young was coming out of college in 2005, I was absolutely certain that he would be a failure due to the same knocks you and droski have on Tebow; not intelligent and poor mechanics. You think Tebow's mechanics are bad? Vince Young looked like a freakin' stunt double for Uncle Rico his entire college career, and it was no secret that Mack Brown had to dumb down his offense so Vince could run it. Need I bring up the Wonderlic Test?

Yet look at him now; I was completely wrong about him. And you can tell me this: No explanations, no nothing: Has Vince Young displayed at any point good play at the quarterback position in the NFL? Yes or no.

Like many of you, I don't like Tebow. He jaws too much, mugs for the camera, etc. I hate his sideline preaching. I get dumb chills every time I see it. I am simply saying this: If Tim Tebow gets a fair shot at playing QB in the league, any of you writing him off here and now (which I'm sure is many on this site) have a good chance at eating a lot of crow.

There have been numerous QB's with poor mechanics, that are dumb, that struggled at times in college, etc. that have gone on to be fine at the pro level. You can't tell.
 
#46
#46
vince young has been mediocre at best in the NFL. he wouldnt' start for 2/3rds of nfl teams at least.
 
#48
#48
GAVol said:
I disagree completely.
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You have to admit there are quite a few surprises. Who saw Tom Brady lighting it up? I watched Chad Henne play for four years at Michigan as well, and I never thought he'd make it. Would you have guessed that VY would be doing better than Leinart at this point? You can get an idea, but I feel like there are too many variables.
 
#50
#50
droski said:
vince young has been mediocre at best in the NFL. he wouldnt' start for 2/3rds of nfl teams at least.
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He has been incorporated into the offense well enough that he can help win games for the Titans when need be, hence the term "serviceable starter."

He isn't the focal point of the offense, and nor will Tebow likely be, but you don't need that in order to win football games.
 
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