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Tobias was impressive as a freshman and lived up to his billing. 2nd team All-SEC as a frosh isn't common. Maybe a Top 20 UT player arguably, but that team overall was disappointing. Pearl's worst team by far who got punked by 30 against Michigan in the 1st round of the NCAA tournament. Pearl consistently played his son Steven in every game when he never should have been on the court.How do people feel about Tobias Harris? Talent wise he has to be one of the better players for the Vols.
There is no love like that of a parent.Tobias was impressive as a freshman and lived up to his billing. 2nd team All-SEC as a frosh isn't common. Maybe a Top 20 UT player arguably, but that team overall was disappointing. Pearl's worst team by far who got punked by 30 against Michigan in the 1st round of the NCAA tournament. Pearl consistently played his son Steven in every game when he never should have been on the court.
Very naive to state that a talent from 60-90 years ago inferior to todays players without the benefit of todays development, equipment & training techniques. I’d say those greats in that era could play given todays equipment, coaching, etc. How great are todays hitters without helmets, gloves, shin guards, elbow pads, etc trying to hit spit balls, cut balls, balls thrown at your head in huge ball parks larger in most cases than today?But he probably doesn't crack an MLB roster in the last 30 years. Comparatively weak competition.
Very naive to state that a talent from 60-90 years ago inferior to todays players without the benefit of todays development, equipment & training techniques. I’d say those greats in that era could play given todays equipment, coaching, etc. How great are todays hitters without helmets, gloves, shin guards, elbow pads, etc trying to hit spit balls, cut balls, balls thrown at your head in huge ball parks larger in most cases than today?
I’d say the college game & NBA of Kings era is better than todays basketball product. Much of the NBA draft today are guys who can’t stay in the league 2 yrs. Their development is hindered by the lack of playing time in college. The great Laker, Celtic, Piston & Bulls teams would smoke today’s NBA teams.
Obviously it's hard to compare eras but there are greats that would transcend any era. Ruth possibly would have but his total lack of athleticism and life habits wouldn't work today..... maybe, maybe not.
I'm an 80's/90's kid. The NBA on NBC and the Bulls on WGN were like my crack. I agree that the great players and teams from the early 80's to around 2003-2004 were better basketball, better defense and just tougher mentally. The product was definitely better but I'm not sure that they match up as well with today's NBA as many think.
For every solid player and star of that era, you had several guys that wouldn't play today. Sure, the game is different so the skills that are valued are different but you just don't have guys in the league now who aren't at least elite athletes and there is a lot of parity with top end players that wasn't around in the golden era of the NBA. I think a lot of top teams of the past get run out of the gym by the best of today's teams. JMO
Isiah with his 30% shooting from distance wouldn’t last long in today’s NBA. Leaving him off the Dream Team roster was the right move, too. If nobody wants to play with you, you’re not really a good choice for point guard.Lol, at replying to my own post but I do think the 1992 and 1996 Dream Teams beat any "Dream Team" put together today and that's even with the politics of the original Dream Team that left one of the best PG's of all time off the roster (Isaiah).
Trust me if Isiah played today, where 3's are everything instead of an occasional thing, he would shoot a lot better. I guarantee it and the only players that didn't like him were MJ, Pippen and maybe Malone (that elbow was brutal), but I agree, it might have effed up chemistry on that team.Isiah with his 30% shooting from distance wouldn’t last long in today’s NBA. Leaving him off the Dream Team roster was the right move, too. If nobody wants to play with you, you’re not really a good choice for point guard.
PG - CJ Watson
SG - Dalton Knecht
SF - Tobias Harris
PF - Grant Williams
C - Charles Hathaway
Zakai Zeigler
Chris Lofton
Vincent Yarbrough
Tyler Smith
Marcus Haislip
Wayne Chism
Jarnel Stokes
Ron Slay
Walk-Ons
Jeronne Maymon
JaJuan Smith
Hathaway was the player that made me a UT fan when I saw him play his Freshmen year. He will never not be on on my team.
I also found a loop hole. Jeronne and JuJuan started off as walk-ons, so they can make the team too.
Any list that doesn't include Bernard King was done without education.
King and Maravich were two players that as a kid I watched live that were just so different than anybody else on the court.Almost got a little misty watching that highlight clip, and I've watched it probably a couple of dozen times.
King, Grunfeld AND Mike Jackson were probably the best threesome of our all our best teams. They were also quite the showboats, which melded perfectly with Ray Mears' transformation of the program. Saturday Night in Stokley was a "thing"!
It's not talked about enough as to how Mears converted from a successful half-court team to a run and gun team, averaging 85 pts/game with neither a shot clock nor 3pt line. The guy could coach his ass off.King and Maravich were two players that as a kid I watched live that were just so different than anybody else on the court.
Any list that doesn't include Bernard King was done without education.
You’re prob right, but it’s kind of hard against the 2018-19 teamErnie and Bernie were fantastic, but that '77 team was absolutely loaded. Doubt we ever see that much talent on one roster at UT again. King, Grunfeld, Jackson, Johnson, Darden, Crosby, Bertelkamp...sheese. King, Grunfeld, Johnson and Crosby got drafted. Not the same year obviously, but an incredible team. Still can't believe we didn't go further.
Depth was an issue at times. I remember Mike Jackson having to jump center at the start of the 2nd OT at Tuscaloosa in 1976. We had a couple of good reserves but couldn't replace the scoring of Bernard and Ernest when they would both get in foul trouble. After all, those two averaged 50 between them in their time together on the HillErnie and Bernie were fantastic, but that '77 team was absolutely loaded. Doubt we ever see that much talent on one roster at UT again. King, Grunfeld, Jackson, Johnson, Darden, Crosby, Bertelkamp...sheese. King, Grunfeld, Johnson and Crosby got drafted. Not the same year obviously, but an incredible team. Still can't believe we didn't go further.
Was it Auburn that raised a stink about King's academic eligibility forcing him to sit out a key game costing us a title?Depth was an issue at times. I remember Mike Jackson having to jump center at the start of the 2nd OT at Tuscaloosa in 1976. We had a couple of good reserves but couldn't replace the scoring of Bernard and Ernest when they would both get in foul trouble. After all, those two averaged 50 between them in their time together on the Hill