Tennessee has turned the corner.

#51
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Grand Vol said:
My lack of objectivity? Really? Don't keep up with my posts much do you?

Perhaps you missed the largest improvement over ANY Dooley team this year. And that's the fact this team has some HEART. For the first time in four years, those young men out there haven't quit. The defense didn't stop pummeling the other team. Worley got right back up after getting beat up time and time again and kept coming back for more.

I'm not objective? Try looking in the mirror sport. All you see if negativity and everything that's wrong with this team. Try looking for the huge neon sign that this team has some life in it for the first time in four years. Butch is leading them out of the doom and gloom culture and giving them hope they can achieve as long as they don't quit.
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After the 2010 season, we went to a bowl game, and sort of beat N.C. in regulation. We go into the next season, coaching staff intact, with high hopes. We start out with 2 dominant wins. We have Jim Chaney, Charlie Baggett, Harry Hiestand, Eric Russell, Darin Hinshaw, Eric Russell, Terry Joseph, Lance Thompson, Peter Sirmon, and Justin Wilcox on staff.

We have Tyler Bray , Da'Rick, Justin Hunter, Taurean Poole, Zach Rogers, etc. returning. We have a stingy defense, not a whole lot of stars, but well coached. We showed improvement on the field, just as we have now. The difference is that Bray and some others were frontrunners. As long as things were going well, they stayed in the game and played hard, and had fun. When the going got tough, they folded their hand and went home with their tail between their legs.

I do believe that we are on a better course now, and have players with more character, and a better head coach. I don't know if the assistants are any better or not, but they have familiarity of working together for a while. I hope and believe that we will get back to near or at the top, but I really thought that when Kiffin came in and when Dooley started his second year. Ther you have it, "sport."
 
#52
#52
Grand Vol said:
My lack of objectivity? Really? Don't keep up with my posts much do you?

Perhaps you missed the largest improvement over ANY Dooley team this year. And that's the fact this team has some HEART. For the first time in four years, those young men out there haven't quit. The defense didn't stop pummeling the other team. Worley got right back up after getting beat up time and time again and kept coming back for more.

I'm not objective? Try looking in the mirror sport. All you see if negativity and everything that's wrong with this team. Try looking for the huge neon sign that this team has some life in it for the first time in four years. Butch is leading them out of the doom and gloom culture and giving them hope they can achieve as long as they don't quit.
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Preach it Grand Vol! :toast:
 
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#53
Grand Vol said:
My lack of objectivity? Really? Don't keep up with my posts much do you?

Perhaps you missed the largest improvement over ANY Dooley team this year. And that's the fact this team has some HEART. For the first time in four years, those young men out there haven't quit. The defense didn't stop pummeling the other team. Worley got right back up after getting beat up time and time again and kept coming back for more.

I'm not objective? Try looking in the mirror sport. All you see if negativity and everything that's wrong with this team. Try looking for the huge neon sign that this team has some life in it for the first time in four years. Butch is leading them out of the doom and gloom culture and giving them hope they can achieve as long as they don't quit.
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You're reaching. Go back to 2012. UT was down by double digits multiple times against UGA and was driving at the end of the game. Similar against USC.

And that was with Sunseri coaching the D. I'm sure you're just looking for others to jump on the anti-Dooley bandwagon (which Dooley sucked) but there were times when the 2012 team showed grit.

Losing takes its toll. Look at last season. Go listen to the Auburn postgame with Fuad Reveiz. He called out the team for quitting.

UT is getting better, no doubt, but you're reaching as to why. UT actually needs to win a road game (UK doesn't count) before you can say the team has turned the corner.
 
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Boca Vol said:
You're reaching. Go back to 2012. UT was down by double digits multiple times against UGA and was driving at the end of the game. Similar against USC.

And that was with Sunseri coaching the D. I'm sure you're just looking for others to jump on the anti-Dooley bandwagon (which Dooley sucked) but there were times when the 2012 team showed grit.

Losing takes its toll. Look at last season. Go listen to the Auburn postgame with Fuad Reveiz. He called out the team for quitting.

UT is getting better, no doubt, but you're reaching as to why. UT actually needs to win a road game (UK doesn't count) before you can say the team has turned the corner.
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No. There's way too many people on here reaching for reasons why we aren't capable of at least going 6-6 or better and going to a bowl.

Nobody realistically expected us to win on the road at OU. And three weeks ago nobody thought we could put up a good fight in the SEC East. But we've seen Georgia can be beat. USCe can be beat. Florida doesn't have the high powered offense everyone raved about after they curb stomped East Michigan but went 4 OT with Kentucky. We have a chance at winning any of those games.

Try thinking more positively for a change. You'll live longer.
 
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Grand Vol said:
No. There's way too many people on here reaching for reasons why we aren't capable of at least going 6-6 or better and going to a bowl.

Nobody realistically expected us to win on the road at OU. And three weeks ago nobody thought we could put up a good fight in the SEC East. But we've seen Georgia can be beat. USCe can be beat. Florida doesn't have the high powered offense everyone raved about after they curb stomped East Michigan but went 4 OT with Kentucky. We have a chance at winning any of those games.

Try thinking more positively for a change. You'll live longer.
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You're missing the point that was made. There have been other times under kiffin and Dooley that we felt the same way at times. The fact is, this team hasn't done anything yet. Vandy was a basement dweller for years who "almost" beat ranked teams on the road. Until you start winning- nobody cares.
 
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crazyguy said:
You're missing the point that was made. There have been other times under kiffin and Dooley that we felt the same way at times. The fact is, this team hasn't done anything yet. Vandy was a basement dweller for years who "almost" beat ranked teams on the road. Until you start winning- nobody cares.
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No I did get the point. And cannot agree with it in any way, shape or form. But you and others miss the point that in any of those teams, the QB would have laid down and quit has they taken the beating Worley took. You think our defense would have blocked a kick that late in the game when it was out of reach like it was in those other years?

It's called heart and desire. Something that's been missing for the past four years no matter how much you want to say the seasons started the same. I saw the Vols walking out of the OU stadium the other night after the game. And not a one of them had their head hung low. And not a single fan went out the same way. Sure losing sucks, but when was the last time a team got beat by 20+ points and had the fans chanting "it's great to be a Tennessee Vol" to the team as they went to the locker room?

Why can't you realize a turn has been made in this program? The Vols already knocked off a ranked opponent last year. And that feat can easily be accomplished this year as well since the players have bought into the message fully and are out there playing with some passion for the first time in years. No matter how you twist it, those previous teams never played for Dooley with passion.
 
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Boca Vol said:
You're reaching. Go back to 2012. UT was down by double digits multiple times against UGA and was driving at the end of the game. Similar against USC.

And that was with Sunseri coaching the D. I'm sure you're just looking for others to jump on the anti-Dooley bandwagon (which Dooley sucked) but there were times when the 2012 team showed grit.

Losing takes its toll. Look at last season. Go listen to the Auburn postgame with Fuad Reveiz. He called out the team for quitting.

UT is getting better, no doubt, but you're reaching as to why. UT actually needs to win a road game (UK doesn't count) before you can say the team has turned the corner.
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Bingo..........
 
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Grand Vol said:
So Butch = Dooley? Is this what you're saying? We're at the same point in Butch Year 2 as we were in Dooley Year 2?

And I could give a damn if he's been burned in the past. We ALL have been burned in the past. And there is no call for saying what was said.
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Some are beginning to should like Georgia fans. I lived in Georgia for 40 years and I heard their fans say the same things every year. I am really encourage by the performance against Oklahoma and believe we are a vastly improved team and will get better during the season. However, I try to maintain a reasonable prospective on the rest of the season. We play a ton of teams ranked in he top 10-15. If we continue to improve and can avoid injuries, i expect we will win 7-8 games. However, I also realize that most of teams we will play have also recruited well and do not have 47 freshmen and redshirt freshmen on their teams. I saw my first Tennessee game in 1946 and have seen the ups and the downs. We are recovering from one of the worst down eras of Tennessee football and I look forward to the next 10-15 years of football with CBJ as our coach. I also realize that it does take time to rebuild after any program has called to where we were four years ago. I expect to see us contend for a NCAA Championship within the next three years and am willing to celebrate and boast when that happens.

Georgia fans look like idiots and I , for one, choose to celebrate after the win rather than eat crow after a loss.
 
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Turned a corner? I'm not so sure, ask again in two weeks, but I do feel good about many aspects of this team. That said, youth and inexperience on the Oline will cost us a game or two down the road at least. I am excited for the future though, going to be some great highs and terrible lows, but that is the life of a fan.
 
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HuntlandVolinColo said:
The one thing that has changed about this season in regards to the schedule is the lack of a path of least resistance with SECw teams. We used to be screwed playing bama every year. This year not so much.

I think the three best in the West are aTm, Auburn and Ole Miss. The worst?...depends on matchups. ARK looks real good so far and MissSt/bama for two games of three games. LSU is young, resiliant and improving but QB is still an issue.
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No Alabama? I'm still not sold on how good OleMiss is.
 
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Grand Vol said:
No. There's way too many people on here reaching for reasons why we aren't capable of at least going 6-6 or better and going to a bowl.

Nobody realistically expected us to win on the road at OU. And three weeks ago nobody thought we could put up a good fight in the SEC East. But we've seen Georgia can be beat. USCe can be beat. Florida doesn't have the high powered offense everyone raved about after they curb stomped East Michigan but went 4 OT with Kentucky. We have a chance at winning any of those games.

Try thinking more positively for a change. You'll live longer.
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I said at the beginning of the season that UT should go 6-6 or 7-5 this season. The performance against Oklahoma didn't change that outlook for me.

Regarding having a chance against UGA, USCjr, and UF you're correct, UT has a chance in all of those. They just need to go win 1 or 2 of them. Competing in big games is the 1st step....now they need to go get it done on the field.
 
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#62
Jumping the gun a bit on the "turning a corner". I think we are in a great position and have great potential to turn that corner, but until we put some good wins together we are not really any better off than two years ago IMO
 
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I think these guys showed a lot of fight and grit. That part has certainly improved from the Dooley era. I don't think anyone can honestly say how the year plays out. There are winnable games, but those same games could go the other way if the mistakes aren't cleaned up. I like to stay positive and expect a bowl, but part of me is worried it won't happen.
 
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JohnMcA60 said:
I've talked to numerous OU fans who were impressed by our play and felt with a better o line this game was heading to a great finish. We got some bad breaks in the end zone twice. I think we showed we are heading in the right direction.
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I had a plethora of text messages from various conference fans who all said they were impressed by the performance.
 
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Simply put, we were an offensive line away from possibly winning that game. I think the line gels in 2-3 weeks and we upset some teams.
 
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onecrazytj said:
You sir are a good man. Takes a bit of grit to post that rather than hide like most negavols. :good!:
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Ya all those negavols who whined and moaned and wouldn't give fulmer a chance to get his team turned around. We have a very impatient fan base. It reared its ugly head with the way fulmer was treated and unjustly fired. the irony is that Tennessee got way worse after firing coach fulmer. we keep fulmer and we have a top five team, probably would have beat ou and have a nice shot at the playoffs. now butch has to slowly rebuild the team from the hiring disasters that were lane kitten Derek doofus. butch is a great coach and has put in place a great staff, but will the fans be patient enough to give him time to rebuild the program?? I highly doubt it. he will need at least a couple more years before the pieces are in place. one thing is certain, we can't keep firing coaches every couple years.
 
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boxerpupsrcool said:
Ya all those negavols who whined and moaned and wouldn't give fulmer a chance to get his team turned around. We have a very impatient fan base. It reared its ugly head with the way fulmer was treated and unjustly fired. the irony is that Tennessee got way worse after firing coach fulmer. we keep fulmer and we have a top five team, probably would have beat ou and have a nice shot at the playoffs. now butch has to slowly rebuild the team from the hiring disasters that were lane kitten Derek doofus. butch is a great coach and has put in place a great staff, but will the fans be patient enough to give him time to rebuild the program?? I highly doubt it. he will need at least a couple more years before the pieces are in place. one thing is certain, we can't keep firing coaches every couple years.
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Dear God, not Fulmer talk again
 
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I agree that the 6-6 preseason talk was right on track. The OL / DL and Kickers were my biggest concerns. After 3 weeks it's clear to me that 6 wins is the low end of the projections and 8 wins is the upper side. The OL has improved every week, the DL is just simply better than i thought and the Kickers have been serviceable. The coaching has been an A+, and I don't normally say that. I believe we've turned the corner, cast stones if you wish, but in 4a few weeks when we are sitting at 4-2 going into Ole Miss, or 5-2 going into Bama, you'll all want to be on the bandwagon. I'm just making an early reservation. As of Saturday Night....I BELIEVE.

EDIT: of course i should add that SECeast ain't scaring anybody either.
 
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With 22 true freshmen seeing action and being relied on to contribute heavily is anyone but me concerned about the freshman "wall"? That's one of the things I can see later on that might counteract the progress our young guys are making now. The other concern is injuries/depth.
 
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#75
Brianchevy said:
After last year's mediocre results, I have been holding back on CBJ, waiting to see how our Vols did in the 2nd half against OU and worried about a repeat performance of Oregon last year. IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

Some of you here called that, some of you said things had changed on Rocky Top and the best was ahead of us. YOU WERE RIGHT. I was wrong to be skeptical.

The first half was tough to watch, but I didn't quit -- i cheered and watched thru it all. I believe that it all turned the corner exactly during the halftime interview with Heather Cox of ABC/ESPN. When Coach Jones smiled to her ******* question and said "That's between us".

Very proud of you CBJ, that's a CLASSY way to handle it. THEN the team came out in the 2nd half and played toe-to-toe against the #3 team in the country.

I'm sold -- i'm on the CBJ bandwagon. Can I get a seat before we beat Florida and there are 100,000 more on the bandwagon?

To the loyal sunshine pumpers, make room for 1 more.

To those loyal #NegaVols, it's time -- you should watch the replay and put down the stick. it's time to get on board....

Oh, and I am revising my season prediction from 6-6 to 8-4
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Ahhh yes, the proverbial "corner". So the deed is done?:zeitung_lesen:
 
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