Tennessee Lady Vol News

[mudcat1973]

wish lady vols could get refs like where calling men's game today. stay out of the game called a fair game. no cheap fouls or wrestling going on just baketball.

 

[NoBackBoard]

wish lady vols could get refs like where calling men's game today. stay out of the game called a fair game. no cheap fouls or wrestling going on just baketball.

Not going to happen. Refs, fans and many coaches are sexist and believe women’s bodies are too fragile for contact.

 

[lvocd]

wish lady vols could get refs like where calling men's game today. stay out of the game called a fair game. no cheap fouls or wrestling going on just baketball.

I've always said that most officials for the women's game aren't quick enough to keep up with the faster players we see now, and that they end up making too many anticipation calls because of it.

But then, that obviously doesn't explain all the horrible calls/no-calls they also are making while standing 6 feet from them. It's mindboggling.

 

[Voluble2]

Not going to happen. Refs, fans and many coaches are sexist and believe women’s bodies are too fragile for contact.

It's just the opposite really. They think they are too uncoordinated to control themselves so they allow a LOT of contact that wouldn't be allowed in the men's game. Just ask Tamari how she liked that ride Rhyne took her on. But they make up for that with anticipatory calls for fouls that never happen.

But the biggest difference is that the men's refs get a much higher percentage of the calls right and are not as obviously biased as the refs on the women's side.

That was a really clean game the men played today so there wasn't much for the refs to do. It probably helped that it was a blowout.

 

[Amb3096]

It's just the opposite really. They think they are too uncoordinated to control themselves so they allow a LOT of contact that wouldn't be allowed in the men's game. Just ask Tamari how she liked that ride Rhyne took her on. But they make up for that with anticipatory calls for fouls that never happen.

But the biggest difference is that the men's refs get a much higher percentage of the calls right and are not as obviously biased as the refs on the women's side.

That was a really clean game the men played today so there wasn't much for the refs to do. It probably helped that it was a blowout.

Men's games have higher skilled refs in general. Like it or not, women's games will continue to get the JV staff until they grow their sport.

 

[Volfaninfl2]

Not going to happen. Refs, fans and many coaches are sexist and believe women’s bodies are too fragile for contact.

That’s funny, I was thinking just the opposite. Sure, there’s blocking going on in the men’s game when a player gets close to the basket, but in our games, players are allowed to totally wrap their arms around Tamari constantly. She has to physically fight to move anywhere whether she has the ball or not. The mens game looks cleaner because that’s not allowed. Tamari was literally pulled off the court onto the floor by Howard, and nothing was called. I have not been seeing the grabbing, holding, hooking arms, and wrapping arms around the players in the mens games.

 

[Real Info]

Men's games have higher skilled refs in general. Like it or not, women's games will continue to get the JV staff until they grow their sport.

Teddy Valentine says hi

 

[LadyOrange]

We get crap refs because they are paid very little, travel a lot. To get good refs, pay them more. Fact.

 

[Amb3096]

Teddy Valentine says hi

And there's probably 3 for every 1 of him in the women's game.

 

[lvocd]

That’s funny, I was thinking just the opposite. Sure, there’s blocking going on in the men’s game when a player gets close to the basket, but in our games, players are allowed to totally wrap their their arms around Tamari constantly. She has to physically fight to move anywhere whether she has the ball or not. The mens game looks cleaner because that’s not allowed. Tamari was literally pulled off the court onto the floor by Howard, and nothing was called. I have not been seeing the grabbing, holding, hooking arms, and wrapping arms around the players in the mens games.

And I believe players are actually being coached to grab, pull, wrap-around, FOUL on every possession because I think many coaches are gambling that it won't be called -- and they are usually right. The way Tamari is mauled on every play cannot just be accidental. Opponents are deliberately holding on to her, banking on assumption they can use that advantage until someone calls it.

Sadly, this tactic has made watching the games a little less enjoyable for me.

 

[Amb3096]

And I believe players are actually being coached to grab, pull, wrap-around, FOUL on every possession because I think many coaches are gambling that it won't be called -- and they are usually right. The way Tamari is mauled on every play cannot just be accidental. Opponents are deliberately holding on to her, banking on assumption they can use that advantage until someone calls it.

Sadly, this tactic has made watching the games a little less enjoyable for me.

It's like the old UK teams under Mitchell, or even UCF. They will force the refs to call the foul and see how much they can get away with before the whistle blows, then adjust accordingly. Unfortunately, the other team has to also adjust their expectations for what will be called.

The other thing that players are coached to do is flop. Honestly, they need to start penalizing floppers. It's gotten to the point that it's not even funny anymore.

 

[Cloudland vol]

Those refs are getting paid $3,000 per game and most of them are officiating a minimum of 2 games per week. Don’t cover up incompetence with an assertion that they are not being paid very much.

 

[Volfaninfl2]

One of our lady Vols is playing in some Arab country women super league and I had no clue they enforced head coverings for foreign women View attachment 439477

Liked her and I hope she’s safe there and making good money, but that looks miserable, gotta be hot.

 

[lvocd]

Those refs are getting paid $3,000 per game and most of them are officiating a minimum of 2 games per week. Don’t cover up incompetence with an assertion that they are not being paid very much.

Interesting. Is that the rate for the NCAA Tournament, or all season? I wonder how many games a year would be an average number for an official to work over the five months of a season.

One more thing I wonder: Why in the hell didn't I go into officiating?

 

[Real Info]

And there's probably 3 for every 1 of him in the women's game.

I can’t argue with that and that’s scary!

 

[LadyOrange]

Those refs are getting paid $3,000 per game and most of them are officiating a minimum of 2 games per week. Don’t cover up incompetence with an assertion that they are not being paid very much.

My source is Maria Cornelius. She’s done her research. It doesn’t matter if we think refs already make enough $. To get the good refs, need more $.

 

[Darth_Vol]

My source is Maria Cornelius.

You should get better sources...

 

[LV renaissance]

My source is Maria Cornelius. She’s done her research. It doesn’t matter if we think refs already make enough $. To get the good refs, need more $.

I don't have a handy reference but I believe in the storm created by the documented inequality between the men's and women's NCAA tournaments last year (it was always there, but just highlighted last year), everything for the tournaments are now equal in terms of travel, hotels, workout equipment, meals, both called March Madness, and I believe equal pay for the refs. Does anyone else remember hearing this about the refs too. If not, I will research this after work tomorrow and verify.

 

[Lucy]

So Jazz tweeted out congrats to JP today on being names a Jordan Brand AA.
Can you say leadership skills.

 

[mudcat1973]

I don't have a handy reference but I believe in the storm created by the documented inequality between the men's and women's NCAA tournaments last year (it was always there, but just highlighted last year), everything for the tournaments are now equal in terms of travel, hotels, workout equipment, meals, both called March Madness, and I believe equal pay for the refs. Does anyone else remember hearing this about the refs too. If not, I will research this after work tomorrow and verify.

same pay during ncaa turnment. but not pre turnment games. if tis the same refs we had most of the season it be bad refs make more money!

 

[Dak1219]

Those refs are getting paid $3,000 per game and most of them are officiating a minimum of 2 games per week. Don’t cover up incompetence with an assertion that they are not being paid very much.

Is that the same as what the mens refs are being paid per game?

 

[LadyOrange]

I don't have a handy reference but I believe in the storm created by the documented inequality between the men's and women's NCAA tournaments last year (it was always there, but just highlighted last year), everything for the tournaments are now equal in terms of travel, hotels, workout equipment, meals, both called March Madness, and I believe equal pay for the refs. Does anyone else remember hearing this about the refs too. If not, I will research this after work tomorrow and verify.

Yes. SEC is another matter.

 

[mudcat1973]

10 seed creighon beat 7 seed colorado refs fair i think colorado got few more calls but not whole more. hope vols get some fair refs. .

 

[mudcat1973]

i do not think tenn is signing ace? where do you think local girl ace will land.

 

[VolBall09]

i do think tenn getting ace who do you think will sign local knoxville girl?

Highly doubt she ends up at Tennessee. If that were going to happen I would suspect it already would have. I can’t find any updated information on her. Have a feeling she’ll end up at a smaller school.

Never know though