Tennessee Leadership better pay attention to Coaching Salaries

[JMSqb11]

Heupel should come out of this season making 7.5 million with 2 year extension and increased buyout if he leaves

 

[Sarms58]

No one would sign that though. Maybe Freeze would. Coaches want the security of a guaranteed contract. It’s stupid money but it’s the going rate.

Yea, but I know TAMU is sick for the $/win they paid this year…

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Heupel should come out of this season making 7.5 million with 2 year extension and increased buyout if he leaves

I wouldn’t have an issue with $8 million

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

Saban and Kirby are in a different league.

Everyone one else 5m

5m is a lot of freaking money.

There are 3 coaches in the conference making 5 million or less. Times ain't a changing, they already changed.

 

[DaddyChad]

Yea, but I know TAMU is sick for the $/win they paid this year…

A&M paid crazy money over a crazy amount of time. I think we’re probably going to see a significant increase in coaching salaries even over what we have now soon. Especially with the sec expanding and teams like Texas and Oklahoma coming in and probably will be hiring in a year or so. Bc I don’t see Sark or the coach at OU lasting (name escapes me now ).

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

If you beat South Carolina and go to the CFP then, I could see a bump to 9 mil.

Lyle pi$$ed away 2 sec east titles and was rewarded with a raise and look what that got us.

Not taking anything away from the season. It was a great season. We held on to beat a bad Florida team, beat what would be considered a down Alabama team, beat a good LSU team on the road before they got kinda hot. Lost to Georgia (never really in the game) and got blown out by South Carolina with a clown coach.

CJH hasn’t even won the east and our fan base wants to pay him championship money.

Stop being a coach fan and start be a fan of the university of Tennessee.

Sorry but that’s the way things go now. It’s about revenue. You are looking at it through a fans eyes as well. Look at the bigger picture of what Heupel has accomplished for TN. I would almost guarantee he has made the university a pretty big chunk of money because of what he did this season.

The bottom line is Heupel has the potential to win 11 games for the first time in 21 years at TN. And look around at the coaches salaries. You can’t tell me Heupel doesn’t deserve more than Napier or Stoops. An argument could be made he deserves as much as Kiffin.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Saban and Kirby are in a different league.

Everyone one else 5m

5m is a lot of freaking money.

Well we now know you will never be an AD. You fail to realize how much these coaches make for the university. 5 million isn’t that much in coaches pay.

 

[JMSqb11]

Well we now know you will never be an AD. You fail to realize how much these coaches make for the university. 5 million isn’t that much in coaches pay.

Yup. Saban is underpaid by about 25-30 million dollars. Bama is getting a hell of a deal only paying him 10-12 million.

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

It's a real dilemma. One thing about the portal that Mel Tucker had proven is that you can use it to bring quick improvement but not necessarily continual improvement. At some point you have to develop players.

Heupel has a great offensive system but he needs to learn how to scale it back and manage the game. Sometimes the best thing you can do for your defense when you really need a stop is to give them a breather. You can't always outscore people. If you are just trading scores then it doesn't take many mistakes to get yourself beat. Scoring every 30 seconds is not a reliable prescription.

My personal opinion is that if he never figures that out then the Vols will probably fire him after 6-8 seasons of"underachieving."

You missed the 8 plus play drives this season?

Some of yall are silly. Complaing about scoring . When your defense struggles to get many 3 and outs....thats on them Especially early in the game.

 

[Vanhalo]

Well we now know you will never be an AD. You fail to realize how much these coaches make for the university. 5 million isn’t that much in coaches pay.

He needs to earn it 1st over a few years.

 

[FranklinVFL]

I've been in the corner all season that we needed to slow roll any raise because we have gotten burned in the past from coaching fool's gold thinking we had "the guy" only to learn we had the QB that made the coach look better than he really was...

But, with Stoops' raise, followed by Kiffin's raise, we really are not in the market range....sometimes you have to just stay market-competitive with where you are with your coach and what others are making....I mean, KY is handing out money like they are printing it in the ADs office for a 7-5 record....Football coaching salaries are such that you do have to keep up with the Jones.

so, I have done a 180 on this and feel that we need to give the raise...a signficant raise....we can argue about how much, but it really has to be done in the off season...the question is, do we increase the # of years on the deal, or just a raise with no extension?

Optics would be bad if we sat on it until someone comes interested in him, and then we are 'matching' at that point...afraid we need to be pro-active on this one.

 

[FranklinVFL]

If the AD was the final say on salaries…as I said…I have hope given our recent leadership changes…but past Tennessee leadership (President, Chancellor) were tight and whiny

That is not the problem anymore.....everyone is on the same page now.

 

[FranklinVFL]

Does he? Stoops has sustained success for awhile now. And he’s at a tougher job at UK. I think CJH deserves a raise but i hope they dont go overboard until he shows he can do it for longer.

Stoops got the increase to $8.6M being 7-5.....we are at 10-2.....I would move him to $9M....we also have the Tennessee Stigma to change that we won't pay and are cheap with coaches....we need to change that stigma as well.

 

[FranklinVFL]

Sure, but what Stoops and Kiffin are making is ludicrous. The only way to compete is to abandon all fiscal responsibility

It might be insane, but it is the market, and it is what the market says is the value of being a coach.

 

[wmcovol]

Boyd proved with Barnes he’ll pay for good coaches. I’d say Heup will get a sizable increase to be in top half of SEC. That’s damn good I’d say for 1 outstanding season.

 

[VolPack22]

Hence the reason he said "much tougher job"

And that makes him deserving of a top 5 salary?

 

[Allvols1996]

Just look at the salaries in the SEC. If you want a big time coach you have to pay big time money. We could probably go out and get Dooley again if we want to only pay 3 million. 9 million would still only be barely top 5.

We got Heupel at 4. I’m all for him getting a big raise but not based on the senseless contracts doled out to Stoops and Kiffin.

 

[Allvols1996]

He needs to make more than Stoops IMO.

But really, we need to anticipate what another school might offer. The market sets the rate. Not what we think.

Stoops is the longest tenured coach in the east. He’s still wayyy overpaid. You also have to consider UK isn’t really a destination football job. Tennessee is.

 

[Allvols1996]

6-7 million isn’t cheap for a coach who hasn’t won anything.

A 10 win regular season with a chance at 11 with a bowl win is fantastic, but it’s not championship money worthy.

What happens if the wheels fall off next year? You know how fickle the Tennessee fan base is.

They’d have to to. That’s not a bad schedule. 7 wins looks like a layup. I don’t see another 10 win year considering what we lose.

 

[EZE]

Stoops is the longest tenured coach in the east. He’s still wayyy overpaid. You also have to consider UK isn’t really a destination football job. Tennessee is.

It ain’t a destination job unless it pays like one. You’re fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

If you want to have a Top-4 Playoff program, you can’t pay like a 30th ranked program. That’s just common sense.

 

[EZE]

6-7 million isn’t cheap for a coach who hasn’t won anything.

A 10 win regular season with a chance at 11 with a bowl win is fantastic, but it’s not championship money worthy.

What happens if the wheels fall off next year? You know how fickle the Tennessee fan base is.

You folks spout this stuff without any idea of what coaches are being paid around the country. Tennessee is WAY behind.

 

[VOLnMiami]

I'd say 9 million, He can't make less than Stoops...Talk about a slap in the face.

 

[Allvols1996]

It ain’t a destination job unless it pays like one. You’re fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

If you want to have a Top-4 Playoff program, you can’t pay like a 30th ranked program. That’s just common sense.

Is it either or? Or, is there something fair that doesn’t overly compromise the university?

 

[Other_Guy]

And that makes him deserving of a top 5 salary?

If nick Saban left Bama and went to Vandy and they consistently won 8 games, would he?
If UK thinks he is doing pretty good and they don't want to risk losing him, they'll pay him.

 

[EZE]

Is it either or? Or, is there something fair that doesn’t overly compromise the university?

If other schools can pay it, ours can, too. It would be interesting to know the increased revenue generated by this season alone. This is over a $100+ million product.