Tennessee - Sleeper for 2013 tournament

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I don't think the term 'sleeper' is accurate - not after being ranked in the Top 25 by Katz, and close to that mark in a number of other pre-season polls.

The author's point is to identify teams that didn't make the dance this year but have the best chance of doing so next year - and he does so using his 'RPM' metric which is an indicator of experience and what percent of the previous year's offense is returning.

Tennessee Volunteers

RPMs: 80 percent

The Volunteers lose Cameron Tatum to graduation, but just about everyone else will be back next year for coach Cuonzo Martin. Through some combination of luck, merit and weird tiebreakers, the Vols were actually the No. 2 seed in the SEC tournament, and a 2-seed that returns four starters should be an easy pick to make the NCAA tournament, right?

Pretty much, right. For one thing, the Vols should benefit from the continued development of 6-8 sophomore-to-be Jarnell Stokes, who played just 17 games after becoming eligible midseason as a freshman. Stokes shot just 57 percent at the free throw line and, what was worse for UT fans, drew a lot of fouls. But in just about every other way, Stokes displayed a good deal of promise as a freshman. He made 55 percent of his 2s (meaning he came very close to shooting better from the field than he did at the line), and he was a capable rebounder at both ends of the floor.

Stokes will team with Jeronne Maymon to give Martin what projects to be an outstanding frontcourt. Maymon started his college career at Marquette before transferring to Knoxville, and in his first season as a Volunteer, he quickly displayed a remarkable ability to draw fouls. (Though, like Stokes, he wasn't always able to turn those fouls into points: Maymon shot 66 percent at the line.) But the 6-7 Maymon is a reliable scorer in the paint, and in particular, I expect that he and Stokes will be able to crash the offensive glass, if Martin will let them.

In the backcourt, leading scorer Trae Golden suffers from the oldest perceptual affliction in basketball. It is said the 6-1 combo guard is not a "true" point guard, whatever that is. I'll grant that he can commit an occasional turnover. In particular, Golden had a late February to forget -- he committed six turnovers in a game on three separate occasions. But if we define a point guard as someone who records assists and makes baskets, then I submit to you that Golden is, all in all, a pretty fair point guard. His contribution to the offense has been underrated simply because some of his best work is done in the dullest way possible. Golden shoots 83 percent at the line and draws about five fouls per 40 minutes.

The only thing holding this team back is its own turnovers. The defense is already outstanding in Knoxville, but the Volunteers gave the ball away on 23 percent of their SEC possessions last season. If Golden and his teammates can take better care of the ball next season -- and chances are very good that they will, if for no other reason than the law of averages -- you'll be hearing an awful lot about how "Martin's done a great job with this team to get them back to the NCAA tournament." Wait and see.
Arizona Wildcats, Tennessee Volunteers have makings of tournament teams - NCB - ESPN
 
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Agreed on the turnover bit. Reducing those is the easiest way to improve significantly. In fact, according to Ken Pom stats, outside of FG%, TOs are often one of the most highly correlated stats to Offensive and Defensive efficiency.
 
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Agree with the article and we will be tons better on offense this year. Martin laid the groundwork for stressing defense last year and limited the offense so they could get it. Scouting Tennessee is going to be a lot more difficult this season because I think were going to see a ton of new looks. Golden has a year under his belt leading the team, Stokes aint fresh out of highschool, and youth no longer being a problem is going to help Maymon a ton, making him more efficient.
 
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We might see some variations of that, but I doubt anyone will take his starting PG spot. It's clear they're hoping Richardson can run the point at times, and Moore is supposedly a combo-guard capable of doing so, but who knows what he will be able to bring.
 
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Agree with the article and we will be tons better on offense this year. Martin laid the groundwork for stressing defense last year and limited the offense so they could get it. Scouting Tennessee is going to be a lot more difficult this season because I think were going to see a ton of new looks. Golden has a year under his belt leading the team, Stokes aint fresh out of highschool, and youth no longer being a problem is going to help Maymon a ton, making him more efficient.

I agree. Very versatile lineup, IMO
 
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Need someone to run the point and let Golden play the 2

Looking at the boards and seeing how there is no chance we land a talented PG that more than likely contributes effectively form the get-go, I'll settle for Golden running the point full time because he's improved a lot and I'd hate to mess up team chemistry when we have a chance to do something special next season.
 
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I cracked up when I read the part about golden, and how the guy said he's not a true PG, whatever that is. That's what many on here have been saying its as if he almost pulled that right off VN.

Great great write up though, very good information. I didn't realize I guess that the turnovers were still such an issue late in the season. Going off Missouri states numbers under CCM he likes his teams to be around 10 to a game, so I'd definitely expect thistle improve. I think our high number was a few things; Goldens 1st at PG, playing a HS PF, and playing a lot of guys major minutes who just plain and simple never played those minutes before at the D1 level.

I would have liked to seen a fast PG added, but not because I feel trae isn't good at PG. I would've liked to because I feel we're a better team with another PG, and trae at the 2 over any other person(skylar or josh). We probably aren't gonna land one though, so let's all hope trae takes that next step, which I think that he will.
 
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Need someone to run the point and let Golden play the 2

As the writer said in his article, trae was actually a good PG considering it was his first year. I'd have liked to seen us add a PG, not because I think traes inadequate, but simply because I feel the 2 spot is our weakest and trae would be an upgrade IMO.

It looks like we probably wont be landing that PG though, and I'm ok with that. I think PG will be a strong spot next year with trae hopefully continuing to progress, an my biggest question is that 2 spot. To me that's the biggest concern/weakness right now on this team, the 2 guard position.
 
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As the writer said in his article, trae was actually a good PG considering it was his first year. I'd have liked to seen us add a PG, not because I think traes inadequate, but simply because I feel the 2 spot is our weakest and trae would be an upgrade IMO.

It looks like we probably wont be landing that PG though, and I'm ok with that. I think PG will be a strong spot next year with trae hopefully continuing to progress, an my biggest question is that 2 spot. To me that's the biggest concern/weakness right now on this team, the 2 guard position.

I agree. Tatum had ups and downs during the season but he brought a lot to the team. Experience will be the one of his most difficult attributes to replace at that spot. I believe Richardson can fill the spot, and I look forward to seeing his improvement under CM during the offseason.
 
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Indeed. Can't believe there are so many Golden haters. The guy stepped up in a major way. He was extremely rocky in the beginning but I'm guessing he realized this is his team and success and failure most of the time lies on his shoulders. IMO, he responded to that and played with a lot of heart and passion and did about a good of a job as you could hope for closing out the season. He's not a John Wall or Derrick Rose type of player but he is very good and has shown the ability to get even better. AND last year was the first time he did that. Compare the improvements throughout the season and then think about another summer / spring with Martin leading up to November. AND then realize how Martin held back a lot offensively last year in preperation. We are fine at point guard!
 
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I know it's early, but I see us anywhere from a 5-10 seed right now. If the players (McRae) can understand that the offense needs to go inside-out, I think we could be very dangerous.
 
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I know it's early, but I see us anywhere from a 5-10 seed right now. If the players (McRae) can understand that the offense needs to go inside-out, I think we could be very dangerous.

That's a pretty wide range, and most likely spot on haha.

Thats basically saying between the 20-40 best team in the country which is probably about right.
 
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I see us winning 22-24 games next season. THe SEC should be down a little bit with Vandy and Miss. St suffering multiple losses. WIth Stokes and Maymon in addition to Mac and Hall, we should not, I repeat, should not ever be outrebounded next year. In addition, we should be hard to stop inside the paint.
 
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I see us winning 22-24 games next season. THe SEC should be down a little bit with Vandy and Miss. St suffering multiple losses. WIth Stokes and Maymon in addition to Mac and Hall, we should not, I repeat, should not ever be outrebounded next year. In addition, we should be hard to stop inside the paint.

The question becomes will our guards learn to run the offense through our bigs. I'd like to see maymon and stokes getting 12 shots each a game on average.

Last year we averaged 54 fg attempts a game. 67% of our fg attempts last year came from our guards, that's 36 fg attempts per game from the guards. If jeronne and jarnell each get 12, and you figure yemi and kenny averaging around 6 combined fg attempts a game that's 30 of our 54 fg attempts coming from the post, 56%.

The biggest cut IMO should be from trae. He took the most shots on the team, around 10 a game. I'd like to see that number drop to around 4-5 a game. Also around 10 fgs a game from renaldo and cameron will be gone so there's the difference of 15 fg attempts a game. Obviously Edwards will get some but that may come at the expense of skylar, josh, or Jordy.

Whole point being, I'd like to see the offense ran through the post and jeronne and jarnell to get 12-15 fg attempts a game AND for our posts to take more shots than our guards this year.
 
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The question becomes will our guards learn to run the offense through our bigs. I'd like to see maymon and stokes getting 12 shots each a game on average.

Last year we averaged 54 fg attempts a game. 67% of our fg attempts last year came from our guards, that's 36 fg attempts per game from the guards. If jeronne and jarnell each get 12, and you figure yemi and kenny averaging around 6 combined fg attempts a game that's 30 of our 54 fg attempts coming from the post, 56%.

The biggest cut IMO should be from trae. He took the most shots on the team, around 10 a game. I'd like to see that number drop to around 4-5 a game. Also around 10 fgs a game from renaldo and cameron will be gone so there's the difference of 15 fg attempts a game. Obviously Edwards will get some but that may come at the expense of skylar, josh, or Jordy.

Whole point being, I'd like to see the offense ran through the post and jeronne and jarnell to get 12-15 fg attempts a game AND for our posts to take more shots than our guards this year.

Jordan shoots more per minute than anyone else on the team. So if you're looking for people to give up shot attempts he'd be a great place to start. Also cutting the turnover number in half from 23 to 12 would mean 11 or so more shots a game.

Trae shooting 10 times a game is not to bad considering the minutes he played.
 
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"But the 6-7 Maymon is a reliable scorer in the paint, and in particular, I expect that he and Stokes will be able to crash the offensive glass, if Martin will let them."

Can someone tell me what that last part is supposed to mean? Is Cuonzo going to forbid offensive rebounding? Not sure what this guy was going for here.
 
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Jordan shoots more per minute than anyone else on the team. So if you're looking for people to give up shot attempts he'd be a great place to start. Also cutting the turnover number in half from 23 to 12 would mean 11 or so more shots a game.

Trae shooting 10 times a game is not to bad considering the minutes he played.

This is true, but I feel jordy needs to shoot jmo though on that. Hes a 2 or 3, and I feel he has true ability to average 12-15 a night so I'm ok with his fg attempts being somewhere around 10-12 a night. I feel he may actually have the ability to be the best scorer on this team. As I said though, Edwards could take shots from him so well see but I'm ok with his fg attempts as long as they're in the offense and after a post got a look.

The turnovers are definitely a big key for next year as well. Although I'm not sure where you're getting 23, we averaged 14 turnovers a game. 10 or 11 is the goal so that's 3 or for more fg attempts a game.

Trae definitely can score and is good at it, but I don't want it to be his go to this year. I think well be much better if he becomes better at picking and choosing his spots and not trying to score as much. I think trying to score so much really gases him and probably hurt his handles and defense towards the ends of games last year. I'd much rather see a stat line of:
10pts 6ast 4rb 2to 2stl 3-6 fg 1-2 3pt 3-4ft
Than
14pts 4ast 3rb 3to 4-10fg 2-5 3pg 4-5ft

I'd like to see him distribute first, instead of thinking score first. If he can do that I think everyone around him becomes better and as a team we are better.
 

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