Tennessee Softball 2023

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DeerPark12 said:
On the contrary, parents that were paying attention would respect the fact that she didn’t put a pitcher that wasn’t 100% with a history of overuse injuries out there on shorter rest than she had all season. Parents heard her postgame comments about not putting out someone that wasn’t 100%. If those comments chase someone off, then fine. But I’d rather play for a coach that won’t sacrifice a player’s health and future availability to try and win one game.
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Show me the quote in which Weekly said Rogers wasn't 100 percent after pitching 4 innings in the first national title tourney game. I've not seen it.

Here is a KTown News Sentinel story specifically on Weekly's decision to pitch Pickens and not Rogers--or Gottshall! Weekly is quoted extensively and she doesn't say a word about Rogers not being healthy enough to pitch. Not...a...word. Beyond the insanity of not pitching Rogers, she of course could have pitched Gotshall--but didn't do that either. It might be the most absurd decision in the history of Tennessee coaching--all sports, all time. She basically gave up on the game--and the team--before the first pitch.

Why Ashley Rogers, Payton Gottshall didn't pitch for Tennessee softball
 
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DeerPark12 said:
On the contrary, parents that were paying attention would respect the fact that she didn’t put a pitcher that wasn’t 100% with a history of overuse injuries out there on shorter rest than she had all season. Parents heard her postgame comments about not putting out someone that wasn’t 100%. If those comments chase someone off, then fine. But I’d rather play for a coach that won’t sacrifice a player’s health and future availability to try and win one game.
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turbovol said:
Show me the quote in which Weekly said Rogers wasn't 100 percent after pitching 4 innings in the first national title tourney game. I've not seen it.

Here is a KTown News Sentinel story specifically on Weekly's decision to pitch Pickens and not Rogers--or Gottshall! Weekly is quoted extensively and she doesn't say a word about Rogers not being healthy enough to pitch. Not...a...word. Beyond the insanity of not pitching Rogers, she of course could have pitched Gotshall--but didn't do that either. It might be the most absurd decision in the history of Tennessee coaching--all sports, all time. She basically gave up on the game--and the team--before the first pitch.

Why Ashley Rogers, Payton Gottshall didn't pitch for Tennessee softball
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Okay but let’s be honest no one was gonna beat OU. No matter if Ashley pitched or not. I think KP was the best option considering speed (over 70 mph) was your best chance at containing that lineup. All I gotta say is if FSU & Clemson, who had really good #1s on their respective staffs, couldn’t contain OU no one in the country was going to.
 
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turbovol said:
Show me the quote in which Weekly said Rogers wasn't 100 percent after pitching 4 innings in the first national title tourney game. I've not seen it.

Here is a KTown News Sentinel story specifically on Weekly's decision to pitch Pickens and not Rogers--or Gottshall! Weekly is quoted extensively and she doesn't say a word about Rogers not being healthy enough to pitch. Not...a...word. Beyond the insanity of not pitching Rogers, she of course could have pitched Gotshall--but didn't do that either. It might be the most absurd decision in the history of Tennessee coaching--all sports, all time. She basically gave up on the game--and the team--before the first pitch.

Why Ashley Rogers, Payton Gottshall didn't pitch for Tennessee softball
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Why does she need to say a word? It’s no secret Ashley has had multiple days off to recover after throwing 140 pitches. She also as the coach needed to show trust in throwing Pickens SEC Freshman of The Year. It’s not your kid, so throw her.

Did you notice Ashley in discomfort in the OK State game..her shaking her arm out and rotating her shoulders forward. Spoke for itself .
 
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Majors said:
Deal would go back to South Carolina where she was committed to before. Now that Smith isn’t in the hot seat it makes that earlier decision more ideal. I’m surprised SJ stayed around and not heading back to a Texas school.
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Deal committed to South Carolina because that was her only P5 offer at the time and Oklahoma went after her very late in the game because they weren’t happy where SJ was in her development. Trust me if she would ever leave Oklahoma, Tennessee would be tops on her list.
 
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Lady Vols Fan said:
Deal committed to South Carolina because that was her only P5 offer at the time and Oklahoma went after her very late in the game because they weren’t happy where SJ was in her development. Trust me if she would ever leave Oklahoma, Tennessee would be tops on her list.
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Might have been her only offer at the time playing for Carolina Elite…once she switched over and played with Mojo Fisher she was on everyone’s radar after her blowup summer. I don’t disagree about SJ which surprised me she stayed.
 
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turbovol said:
Show me the quote in which Weekly said Rogers wasn't 100 percent after pitching 4 innings in the first national title tourney game. I've not seen it.

Here is a KTown News Sentinel story specifically on Weekly's decision to pitch Pickens and not Rogers--or Gottshall! Weekly is quoted extensively and she doesn't say a word about Rogers not being healthy enough to pitch. Not...a...word. Beyond the insanity of not pitching Rogers, she of course could have pitched Gotshall--but didn't do that either. It might be the most absurd decision in the history of Tennessee coaching--all sports, all time. She basically gave up on the game--and the team--before the first pitch.

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I got to agree 💯
If Karen really had that much trust in Pickens why didn’t she pitch her in the Texas Series and save Ashley? At the WCWS why have the quick hook?

It came down to Karen trying to out think Oklahoma after she seen what Stanford’s Freshman Candy did to Oklahoma. Just a FYI Candy and Pickens aren’t in the same league.

Not a Pickens hater but y’all crazies think she the best thing ever but she’s still got a lot to improve on. I think there’s a lot of old creepy men on here that like her for her looks and not her performance. With her god given talents she should have been able to come in and do what Fouts did her freshman year.

Everyone loved Hoo & G early in the season while we played a weak early schedule and once we started to see competition they couldn’t hit the better competition and everyone has called for their replacements. But y’all keep Pickens on the pedestal even though she excelled against the weaker competition early and struggled down the stretch against the better competition. Can’t have the double standards!!! If everyone are so satisfied with Pickens why is everyone wanting 1 or 2 more pitchers? FSU would’ve loved to have 2 Aces. 2 Aces and complementary staff is plenty with this special offense we are going to have but y’all know we still need that 2nd Ace.
 
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Lady Vols Fan said:
I got to agree 💯
If Karen really had that much trust in Pickens why didn’t she pitch her in the Texas Series and save Ashley? At the WCWS why have the quick hook?

It came down to Karen trying to out think Oklahoma after she seen what Stanford’s Freshman Candy did to Oklahoma. Just a FYI Candy and Pickens aren’t in the same league.

Not a Pickens hater but y’all crazies think she the best thing ever but she’s still got a lot to improve on. I think there’s a lot of old creepy men on here that like her for her looks and not her performance. With her god given talents she should have been able to come in and do what Fouts did her freshman year.

Everyone loved Hoo & G early in the season while we played a weak early schedule and once we started to see competition they couldn’t hit the better competition and everyone has called for their replacements. But y’all keep Pickens on the pedestal even though she excelled against the weaker competition early and struggled down the stretch against the better competition. Can’t have the double standards!!! If everyone are so satisfied with Pickens why is everyone wanting 1 or 2 more pitchers? FSU would’ve loved to have 2 Aces. 2 Aces and complementary staff is plenty with this special offense we are going to have but y’all know we still need that 2nd Ace.
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Clemson was weak competition?
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Clemson was weak competition?
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Please give me another big win outside of Clemson…. One game isn’t enough to give a player credibility. If thats the case we got beat by Cal State Fullerton and nobody is going after that pitcher. If you can only say Clemson maybe that was fools gold.
 
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turbovol said:
Show me the quote in which Weekly said Rogers wasn't 100 percent after pitching 4 innings in the first national title tourney game. I've not seen it.

Here is a KTown News Sentinel story specifically on Weekly's decision to pitch Pickens and not Rogers--or Gottshall! Weekly is quoted extensively and she doesn't say a word about Rogers not being healthy enough to pitch. Not...a...word. Beyond the insanity of not pitching Rogers, she of course could have pitched Gotshall--but didn't do that either. It might be the most absurd decision in the history of Tennessee coaching--all sports, all time. She basically gave up on the game--and the team--before the first pitch.

Why Ashley Rogers, Payton Gottshall didn't pitch for Tennessee softball
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Really doesn't matter the hitters didn't show up so the pitcher is a mute point. Learn the game before popping off and showing you're stupidity.
 
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Majors said:
If they bring in two and one is a #5 that gets 5-15 innings is it a mistake? Believe they are going quality or quantity.
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Not going to matter no difference makers left to pull. UT has 2 pitchers and a prayer. 50/50 making it to Supers next season.
 
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volman128 said:
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Are you one of the old creepy men I offended about having the hots for Pickens??? That list was a joke, you forgot to circle all the portal spots in the batting order. You can only tell someone how good a person is for so long with nothing to back it up. I would definitely take Pickens on my pitching staff but nothing higher than the 3 spot on the staff.
 
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Lady Vols Fan said:
Please give me another big win outside of Clemson…. One game isn’t enough to give a player credibility. If thats the case we got beat by Cal State Fullerton and nobody is going after that pitcher. If you can only say Clemson maybe that was fools gold.
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Clemson, Illinois, LSU, Ole Miss, Texas A and M
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Clemson, Illinois, LSU, Ole Miss, Texas A and M
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Thank you, you just proven my point!!!! White or Simpson could’ve beat Illinois, Ole Miss and A&M. They say the truth hurts, but when you’re right, it’s more like a victory lap with Ricky Bobby…Beating lesser of competition earlier in the season isn’t how to judge a player it should be based on the entire season. Love the passion on this board but to praise her over G, Hoo, Katie and y’all can’t wait until there all replaced this fall is all we are reading. Honestly they brought move value to the team individually than Pickens did for the season as a whole. And Karen also proven that point because they played against Texas and Pickens didn’t and those were must win to go to the WCWS.
 
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Lady Vols Fan said:
Thank you, you just proven my point!!!! White or Simpson could’ve beat Illinois, Ole Miss and A&M. They say the truth hurts, but when you’re right, it’s more like a victory lap with Ricky Bobby…Beating lesser of competition earlier in the season isn’t how to judge a player it should be based on the entire season. Love the passion on this board but to praise her over G, Hoo, Katie and y’all can’t wait until there all replaced this fall is all we are reading. Honestly they brought move value to the team individually than Pickens did for the season as a whole. And Karen also proven that point because they played against Texas and Pickens didn’t and those were must win to go to the WCWS.
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Lol, your posts make you sound like you have something against Pickens. Are you sure you're not the jealous one?

There were only 2 games in that Texas series. When was she going to pitch? Payton and Ashley were always going G1 and G2.
 
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Lady Vols Fan said:
Thank you, you just proven my point!!!! White or Simpson could’ve beat Illinois, Ole Miss and A&M. They say the truth hurts, but when you’re right, it’s more like a victory lap with Ricky Bobby…Beating lesser of competition earlier in the season isn’t how to judge a player it should be based on the entire season. Love the passion on this board but to praise her over G, Hoo, Katie and y’all can’t wait until they’re all replaced this fall is all we are reading. Honestly they brought move value to the team individually than Pickens did for the season as a whole. And Karen also proven that point because they played against Texas and Pickens didn’t and those were must win to go to the WCWS.
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What was your personal expectation for Pickens her Freshman year 16-0? You keep mentioning the Fouts comparison in 2019 who was 21-6 and the teams #1. Tennessee didn’t need KP to be #1 this past year with Ashley back and addition of PG. Making comparisons of what past pitchers Barnhill, Fouts and even Bahl is a stretch as all things aren’t equal. I don’t disagree on Canady, probably the best pitcher/player in the 2022 class over Deal, Taylor and Berzon.

Well before you arrived it was discussed to give Pickens time and don’t have the over excitement as she will have highs and lows.
 
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