Tennessee trying to upgrade dormant pass rush

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terrypedigo said:
The last 2 years we played pretty good D on first and second down, but on third and long we could not get off the field.
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Exactly! Time and time again the D came out hot, stuffed the Offense and pinned them deep in there own territory to just allow the long conversion and kill their spirits.
 
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terrypedigo said:
All I heard for 2 years was how good the OL was, all I every seen on 3rd and 1 was the punt team running on the field on 4th down.:unsure:
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When you have an offensive line thats supposed to be that good. Your QB should just be able to fall forward and get 1 yard.
 
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VeryBest said:
Similar to how I feel about 3rd and 15+. More confident in UT stopping 5 or less.
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With our defense the past few years on third and long, the only question was whether the other team would get a first down or touchdown.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Why didn't he beat out our nfl draft pick linemen last year?
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Nobody was going to be allowed to "beat out" any of those five guys. They knew their status as starters was untouchable and that is why they played like sh#t.

Besides, it would not have been politically correct.
 
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MikeVol44 said:
Don't misunderstand me--I think the LOB are physical and great....but the key here is TIME.

Watch the tape of the game and Manning had players open on many plays--but the front 7 kept pressure in his face and disrupted his timing with his receivers.

It was definitely a JOINT effort--but the Seahawks' gameplan was obvious--they weren't gonna sit back in coverage and wait for Manning to pick them apart! PRESSURE on MANNING was key to their victory.

It was the same thing a few years ago when the Giants beat Brady and the Pats.....Giants PRESSURED Brady and got him out of rhythm an timing....
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I looked back as noticed you said in the Super Bowl. I agree the front 7 was beastly in the Super Bowl, I was more referencing the year. My bad.
 
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kamoshika said:
When Tennessee coach Butch Jones discusses his team's need for playmakers, he isn't merely referring to running backs or wide receivers.

"When you think of playmakers, automatically our minds go to offense," Jones said. "But defensively, who is going to be able to rush and generate our pass rush when we need it?"

For the last few years, Tennessee's struggled to find anyone to fill that role.

Tennessee has posted the fewest sacks in the Southeastern Conference each of the last two years and has averaged only 17 sacks over the last three seasons. Now the Volunteers must replace all four starting defensive linemen from last year's team.
KNOXVILLE, Tenn.: Tennessee trying to upgrade dormant pass rush | College Football | Macon.com
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Getting back on topic...

I think as far as the D Line goes, as DE Vereen will be a force - and the addition of Maggitt will add a ton of speed, as well. DT's I really think we'll be better. Owen Williams is turning heads - and we've yet to see what the remaining incoming freshmen can do.

Also, I've heard talk on other threads about Weatherd being able to play end and backer similar to how they will use Curt. Have you all heard anymore about that?
 
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Dormant, suggest that the pass rush has been in hibernation, but is still alive.....one can only hope!
 
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JRVFL said:
Getting back on topic...

I think as far as the D Line goes, as DE Vereen will be a force - and the addition of Maggitt will add a ton of speed, as well. DT's I really think we'll be better. Owen Williams is turning heads - and we've yet to see what the remaining incoming freshmen can do.

Also, I've heard talk on other threads about Weatherd being able to play end and backer similar to how they will use Curt. Have you all heard anymore about that?
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I think most assume that about Weatherd because in his tape most of his big plays come when he has his hand in the dirt. Vereen was similar coming out of highschool.
 
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Is there any statement yet from the coaches suggesting that Maggitt will play DE? I saw one where they said he would move around... but he's still working with the LB's in practice, right?
 
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sjt18 said:
Is there any statement yet from the coaches suggesting that Maggitt will play DE? I saw one where they said he would move around... but he's still working with the LB's in practice, right?
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I'm not sure about quotes from coaches other than saying they are gonna experiment with him there, but on TSR they are totally convinced it's a done deal and he's been playing mostly there in practice. Apparently JuWuan James (I think - one of last year's OL) basically told one of 'em that DE is where Curt's gonna make his money at the next level, too.
 
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sjt18 said:
Is there any statement yet from the coaches suggesting that Maggitt will play DE? I saw one where they said he would move around... but he's still working with the LB's in practice, right?
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@DanielNooga: Saw Curt Maggitt get some reps at DE in the nickel. He said he's been doing that a lot.

@FootballTimeMag: Curt Maggitt says he's going to be rushing off the edge "a lot." http://t.co/jv9kBTYY8c
 
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majic73 said:
This is such a mis-judgement of the issue. The offensive line was good and will be missed much more than you an others are giving them credit . What made them look bad was the lack of a short , intermediate , and deep passing game . Wht I just said was that their was no passing game . The D's were free to key the gaps as their first read , the ends would actually rush inside in the running lanes ...with no fear of the pasing game . That is 8-9 guys at the point of attack on every play ...there are 5 Olinemen

When the QB starts punishing defenses for this , the safeties will make the run their second or third read and likewise the linebackers. Who knows, the D may move from 8 yards off the ball to 15 ..when we scare them deep . Then we can all sing the praises of the O line when they have balanced matchups.
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Yes they were very good, especially on pass protection, but they weren't optimized for the read option offense. Especially Tiny as it set him back from his JR season.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
That you think a new coach worth a flip would come in and bench a sr laden line is typical of your limited ability to think outside of your zone. The same line that had been through another coaching change and system but had been thru it together and was the only position to rely on last year. Same line that set a ypc avg that is top 5 in UT history. You'd go in with your management for dummies examples, piss off the upperclassmen, and build a split in your team from the minute you opened your mouth and benched a leader who has helped hold the team together through all this junk.
To boot, Crowder played a bit. As did Kerbyson. And played well. Other 3 starters this fall weren't on the team or eligible last year.

There's also a slight chance that being in a system for the 2nd year in a row with the same coaches, playbook and strength coach makes a difference.
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Marcus Jackson could have played, maybe started but they wanted him for this year. Wise move, that is one position I'm not worried too much about.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
That you think a new coach worth a flip would come in and bench a sr laden line is typical of your limited ability to think outside of your zone. The same line that had been through another coaching change and system but had been thru it together and was the only position to rely on last year. Same line that set a ypc avg that is top 5 in UT history. You'd go in with your management for dummies examples, piss off the upperclassmen, and build a split in your team from the minute you opened your mouth and benched a leader who has helped hold the team together through all this junk.
To boot, Crowder played a bit. As did Kerbyson. And played well. Other 3 starters this fall weren't on the team or eligible last year.

There's also a slight chance that being in a system for the 2nd year in a row with the same coaches, playbook and strength coach makes a difference.
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