Tennessee Vols Basketball Recruiting

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johnfnkelly said:
Key's numbers are somewhat promising but his film is.. not. "old man ymca" is a good way to describe his game.

Undersized, not a real explosive athlete and not a strong ball handler either.

A lot of his buckets come from bullying smaller guards in his conference. That's not gonna fly in the SEC. He's giving me guard version Anosike vibes.

If the alternative is to take another Tamba type prospect then I guess a one year rental of Key off the bench isn't the worst, assuming we bring in another lead guard.
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If he can hit his free throws he can help us end game with our 3 guard lineup at worst. Again he comes in as a veteran than can be a leader, and be your 2nd or 3rd guy off the bench. I think he can fit the role he will be asked to do if it comes to that. Also team chemistry is big and he will only help that.
 
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johnfnkelly said:
Key's numbers are somewhat promising but his film is.. not. "old man ymca" is a good way to describe his game.

Undersized, not a real explosive athlete and not a strong ball handler either.

A lot of his buckets come from bullying smaller guards in his conference. That's not gonna fly in the SEC. He's giving me guard version Anosike vibes.

If the alternative is to take another Tamba type prospect then I guess a one year rental of Key off the bench isn't the worst, assuming we bring in another lead guard.
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Put up 18/4/3 against Purdue last year:
36mins 18pts 8-14fg 6-9fg2pt 2-5fg3pt


His sophomore/junior/season year he played against 12 P5 teams including Loyola Chicago as one, his averages…

33.5mpg 13.7ppg 4.3rpg 2.0apg 50.3%fg 57.3-%2ptfg 38.2%3ptfg 89.5%ft
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Staff wants the spot
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Fair enough. As times are changing with the portal, guess it makes sense that the coaching philosophy adjusts some too. Asking players who are bought in and working hard doing what you're asking to leave hasn't struck me as RB and staff's M.O. the last few years but I understand they have to do what's both best for the program and the player, in that order sometimes.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Put up 18/4/3 against Purdue last year:
36mins 18pts 8-14fg 6-9fg2pt 2-5fg3pt


His sophomore/junior/season year he played against 12 P5 teams including Loyola Chicago as one, his averages…

33.5mpg 13.7ppg 4.3rpg 2.0apg 50.3%fg 57.3-%2ptfg 38.2%3ptfg 89.5%ft
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Anosike had some solid outings against P5 teams as well. It's just a different grind when it's every night.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Could be, as could Mashack, or Phillips assuming he’s not a one and done…or Justin Edwards who the staff feels good about.
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All could be good options, though Mashack has a ways to go it seems. Phillips isn't around long enough to be the replacement is my thought.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
It’s 2 years in a row they’ve tried to add him, I’m guessing there’s something Barnes sees as a fit/is attracted to
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Anyone we pursue Barnes sees as a fit, so it’s not like that can preclude any conversation about the players. The guy can score and was their go-to. Known for that more so than his defense. We see what happens w players under Barnes who can’t defend at a high level. He’d have a very different role here. That’s why I think it would be an interesting fit.
 
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JelloPuddinPup said:
Fair enough. As times are changing with the portal, guess it makes sense that the coaching philosophy adjusts some too. Asking players who are bought in and working hard doing what you're asking to leave hasn't struck me as RB and staff's M.O. the last few years but I understand they have to do what's both best for the program and the player, in that order sometimes.
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It’s not without a landing spot and without Diboundje being on board, it’s not running him out of town type deal…Schwartz was his recruiter and the coach who knew him best so it’s a good situation for all parties.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
It’s not without a landing spot and without Diboundje being on board, it’s not running him out of town type deal…Schwartz was his recruiter and the coach who knew him best so it’s a good situation for all parties.
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Makes sense. I see it's not exactly a negative situation, but it doesn't feel entirely positive either. Just my opinion though. Wish him the best and I trust Barnes and his team nonetheless.
 
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johnfnkelly said:
Anosike had some solid outings against P5 teams as well. It's just a different grind when it's every night.
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I don’t disagree, won’t know till it happens, guys have panned out and others have flopped…Texas Tech & Purdue are interested in him as well, so much like Anosike it isn’t just Barnes and staff interested at this level. Again what I would reiterate is that it will be nice that he likely won’t relied on in a major way, if he pans out great, if not it’s not a huge deal.
 
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johnfnkelly said:
Key's numbers are somewhat promising but his film is.. not. "old man ymca" is a good way to describe his game.

Undersized, not a real explosive athlete and not a strong ball handler either.

A lot of his buckets come from bullying smaller guards in his conference. That's not gonna fly in the SEC. He's giving me guard version Anosike vibes.

If the alternative is to take another Tamba type prospect then I guess a one year rental of Key off the bench isn't the worst, assuming we bring in another lead guard.
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That's kind of where I'm at.
 
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Here's why I'm okay with Key, if he ends up being the guy (assuming Murray picks Georgetown).

Returning: ZZ, Santi, JJJ, Mashack, Powell good experience, talent, size, depth variety in this group

You add BJE. So you'll have 2 young PG type players in ZZ/BJE and if you are able to add Yuri you have that 1 spot pretty well locked down. JJJ is more of a 3 and plays better in that role, seems Mashack and even Powell (given his size) could also flourish in that 3 spot.

So that leaves you with Santi at your 2...Key would be at that point a great option there as a backup/bench guy. Similar size, similar game, similar abilities (may be a bit better driving and finishing at rim than Santi even).

So if that's where the chips fall you basically get clear positional diversity

PGs - Yuri, ZZ, BJE
SGs - Santi, Key
SFs - JJJ, Mashack, Powell

Of course there is always flexibility there, but these would be what I'd consider their "ideal" spots. Powell to me hasn't shown the quickness to perimeter guard the 1/2 so that's why with his size to me at least he'd seem better at that SF role. Mashack seems athletic enough that he could be a 1 or 2 as well as a 3. But his offensive limitations (thus far) would be why I'd favor him at the SF.

If ya land Phillips ya got some flexibility there as well as him being an option at SF but also at the PF spot. The real question is do we continue to see Barnes roll with Uros at the 5 or will one of BHH/Aidoo overtake him. Cause if healthy I'd assume ON is your starting 4 to begin with.
 
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As some have also alluded to, good luck attracting a top tier transfer or recruit if you Phillips & Yuri to what currently exists…I highly doubt you are finding anyone willing to come here better than Key and that doesn’t cause a stink if they aren’t getting big minutes.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
As some have also alluded to, good luck attracting a top tier transfer or recruit if you Phillips & Yuri to what currently exists…I highly doubt you are finding anyone willing to come here better than Key and that doesn’t cause a stink if they aren’t getting big minutes.
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Very fair...

Santi, JJJ both are going to be starting and getting north of 28 MPG. ZZ you expect to see getting 20+ as well. If ON is a 20+ guy and then you add Yuri that 1-4 minute rotation is pretty slim pickings.

160 minutes total available...

Santi - 30
JJJ - 28
ZZ - 22
Yuri - 30 (about what KC was getting)
ON - 20

130 or so minutes, not much meat left for a big time transfer...and if Phillips is here there is far, far less.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Very fair...

Santi, JJJ both are going to be starting and getting north of 28 MPG. ZZ you expect to see getting 20+ as well. If ON is a 20+ guy and then you add Yuri that 1-4 minute rotation is pretty slim pickings.

160 minutes total available...

Santi - 30
JJJ - 28
ZZ - 22
Yuri - 30 (about what KC was getting)
ON - 20

130 or so minutes, not much meat left for a big time transfer...and if Phillips is here there is far, far less.
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I believe it’s 200 total minutes (5x40 mins per game)
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Very fair...

Santi, JJJ both are going to be starting and getting north of 28 MPG. ZZ you expect to see getting 20+ as well. If ON is a 20+ guy and then you add Yuri that 1-4 minute rotation is pretty slim pickings.

160 minutes total available...

Santi - 30
JJJ - 28
ZZ - 22
Yuri - 30 (about what KC was getting)
ON - 20

130 or so minutes, not much meat left for a big time transfer...and if Phillips is here there is far, far less.
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200 minutes available in a game, but yea, still slim pickings if you’re talking about adding Yuri & Phillips to the mix already.
 
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RyanWalkerPGH said:
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RB dishing a lot here on potential QD transfer, where he expects him to go, and expected coaching hires:

"I think he will end up going to East Carolina with Coach Schwartz, because coach is going to hire a great friend of ours from France that really helped us in recruiting Quentin and some other guys. "
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
As some have also alluded to, good luck attracting a top tier transfer or recruit if you Phillips & Yuri to what currently exists…I highly doubt you are finding anyone willing to come here better than Key and that doesn’t cause a stink if they aren’t getting big minutes.
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Any new nuggets of info on when a Phillips announcement might come?
 
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JelloPuddinPup said:
Fair enough. As times are changing with the portal, guess it makes sense that the coaching philosophy adjusts some too. Asking players who are bought in and working hard doing what you're asking to leave hasn't struck me as RB and staff's M.O. the last few years but I understand they have to do what's both best for the program and the player, in that order sometimes.
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All staffs do this but the good ones support the kid and help them with finding the right fit somewhere else.
 
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