tennessee's biggest problem

#26
#26
Only one person fault for this season's poor play. Bruce Pearl is at fault period!!!! If the reason this team is playing badly is the NCAA stuff, that's Pearl's fault. If this team had not been affect by the NCAA stuff and are not as talented as his other teams, That Pearls fault as well. No matter how you slice it. It is Pearl's fault. Is it time for him to go? Only the powers that be will make that decision. Will he ever get the vols back to the level of play before the NCAA stuff? if he does, he will be the first coach to ever do it. Every other coach that has faced this much NCAA issues have never got back to winning at the same level again. Looks like a rough few years for vol basketball.
 
#27
#27
Vols4us said:
The first few posters of this thread nailed it as far as I am concerned. I have always respected 99Gator's posts going back to the GoVolsXtra site days.

It's been a good run with Pearl, but it is time to move on. As I have said before, Urban's offense at UF created havoc for defensive coordinators in the SEC for a few years. In the last couple of years - not. He moved on after accomplishing great things for them. Pearl came in with a style that created havoc for UF, the Cats, etc. for a good 5 year run. That has now ended as they have figured it out, recruiting fell off, and the AA slammed him.

We can do better and hire better. We are not the UT basketball program of old.
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Recruiting fell off? He's got two McDonalds All Americans on team this year.

I don't think it's as much that other teams figured BP out than it is he's not playing the up-tempo press for 40 mins a game like in years past. That's his style of play and he hasn't played that way this year
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Neyland2nd2none said:
Recruiting fell off? He's got two McDonalds All Americans on team this year.

I don't think it's as much that other teams figured BP out than it is he's not playing the up-tempo press for 40 mins a game like in years past. That's his style of play and he hasn't played that way this year
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I have to agree with this completely. This year, the first half of most games, Vols ae firing, running. Then things slow down with all the substitutions, the ball is brought up court to set up an offense-which there is none. Vols get behind, second half comes and its back to half court offense. Tennessee has gotten by the past few years by running and pressing which has rarely been done this year. Bruce's game plan has totally changed this year and the substitutions have many times broke the rhythm of the game and changed the momentum. If you don't have players that can go the whole game, somethings wrong.
 
#29
#29
It is as simple as other teams can make shots and we can't. I don't believe it is lack of effort, sub patterns or anything else. While FL shoots 82% in the second half, we miss 2 uncontested layups and there were many others. We miss half our free throws in the last 8 minutes. Everyone seems to have a good 3 point shooter but us.
 
#30
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Neyland2nd2none said:
Recruiting fell off? He's got two McDonalds All Americans on team this year.

I don't think it's as much that other teams figured BP out than it is he's not playing the up-tempo press for 40 mins a game like in years past. That's his style of play and he hasn't played that way this year
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The minute we switched to a half court game, we started getting past the sweet sixteen. And how many freshmen has Bruce recruited that have become consistent, dependable players? Wheezy, Tobias, maybe BWill, and can you count Scotty as consistent?
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#31
#31
volroadwarrior said:
It is as simple as other teams can make shots and we can't. I don't believe it is lack of effort, sub patterns or anything else. While FL shoots 82% in the second half, we miss 2 uncontested layups and there were many others. We miss half our free throws in the last 8 minutes. Everyone seems to have a good 3 point shooter but us.
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Yup.
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#33
#33
LWSVOL said:
I think the future of this coach at UT has been decided and finalized. just waiting out season.
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I respect your information, but I hope you're out in left field here because I think this is a mistake. How many coaches did UT go through after DeVoe? This school has not had a good history in picking basketball coaches and when we finally get one who turns the program around we get rid of him? Doesn't make sense to me.
 
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oklavol said:
I respect your information, but I hope you're out in left field here because I think this is a mistake. How many coaches did UT go through after DeVoe? This school has not had a good history in picking basketball coaches and when we finally get one who turns the program around we get rid of him? Doesn't make sense to me.
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It makes perfect sense, given the events of the last year.
 
#35
#35
volroadwarrior said:
It is as simple as other teams can make shots and we can't. I don't believe it is lack of effort, sub patterns or anything else. While FL shoots 82% in the second half, we miss 2 uncontested layups and there were many others. We miss half our free throws in the last 8 minutes. Everyone seems to have a good 3 point shooter but us.
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I have to agree with you. Ultimately it comes downs to playing good defense and hitting your shots. UT did not do either well and against a top 20 team you are going to lose.
 
#36
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oklavol said:
I respect your information, but I hope you're out in left field here because I think this is a mistake. How many coaches did UT go through after DeVoe? This school has not had a good history in picking basketball coaches and when we finally get one who turns the program around we get rid of him? Doesn't make sense to me.
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So you're saying keep BP and let the NCAA cripple the program? If we keep him, the NCAA is gonna take that as a slap in their face and penalize us A LOT harder than if we were to cut ties with him.
Trust me, I realize he's been the best thing for UT hoops in a long time. As much as I'd like him to continue to be our coach, the penalties would set the program back much further than if we just part ways with him. It sucks, really bad, how this one minor secondary violation turned into multiple major violations and ending his career here as well as putting the program back years and back to mediocrity.
Hope we can find a diamond in the rough to take the job and get us back on track will dealing with sanctions. Maybe we can find another Dooley out there that will come in, embrace the traditions and be a man of character and integrity so we wouldnt have to worry about him lying to the NCAA.
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#37
#37
Neyland2nd2none said:
So you're saying keep BP and let the NCAA cripple the program? If we keep him, the NCAA is gonna take that as a slap in their face and penalize us A LOT harder than if we were to cut ties with him.
Trust me, I realize he's been the best thing for UT hoops in a long time. As much as I'd like him to continue to be our coach, the penalties would set the program back much further than if we just part ways with him. It sucks, really bad, how this one minor secondary violation turned into multiple major violations and ending his career here as well as putting the program back years and back to mediocrity.
Hope we can find a diamond in the rough to take the job and get us back on track will dealing with sanctions. Maybe we can find another Dooley outthere that will come in, embrace the traditions and be a man of character and integrity so we wouldnt have to worry about him lying to the NCAA.
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Watch OSU won't fire Tressell...... That situation will only help UTs siituation. The Ncaa loves OSU. Everyone does for some reason
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#38
#38
I think if you are going to play 10 to 12 players then you should be pressing and trapping to speed the game up.

if you are going to slow it down on most possessions then you don't have the need to rotate as many players.

I just don't understand why we play this kind of style this season. I feel we have the athletes to speed it up. Why have we not adjusted at any point this season?
 
#39
#39
oklavol said:
I respect your information, but I hope you're out in left field here because I think this is a mistake. How many coaches did UT go through after DeVoe? This school has not had a good history in picking basketball coaches and when we finally get one who turns the program around we get rid of him? Doesn't make sense to me.
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Hes not in left field. This has been moving for a while and was inevitable once the AA's LOA arrived. His agent has even been pushing to cut a deal.
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#40
#40
Biggest thing missing is a true outside treat. Someone who can knock down a shot under pressure consistint
 
#41
#41
jc4vols said:
Biggest thing missing is a true outside treat. Someone who can knock down a shot under pressure consistint
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No. Offensive issues are PG and no post presence whatsoever. Defensive effort / focus and limited mention rebounding kill us because our offensive woes mean we can't let down in those areas.
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#42
#42
BigPapaVol said:
No. Offensive issues are PG and no post presence whatsoever. Defensive effort / focus and limited mention rebounding kill us because our offensive woes mean we can't let down in those areas.
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I'd just add the system in general to the offensive issues.
 
#43
#43
BigPapaVol said:
No. Offensive issues are PG and no post presence whatsoever. Defensive effort / focus and limited mention rebounding kill us because our offensive woes mean we can't let down in those areas.
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Bpv, that's been my point about lack of basketball players in those positions all year. That's why I disagreed with the 'most talent' label. Maybe we agreed, yet worded differently. Its still bp's fault that we are short there, but when you watch other teams play, its obvious that we are.
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#45
#45
pl3 said:
Is it the system, or having the wrong players for his system? It has worked ok for BP prior to this year.
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Not really. His half-court offense is just garbage. His strength is transition offense. He does some nice things with that.
 
#46
#46
Cartervol said:
If they fire him after the NCAA ruling then they should fire everyone in the UTAD and get rid of the make shift president too. That would be it, i may never give another dime to them if it goes down that way. That would be stupid on a epic scale.

If they were going to fire Bruce it should have already been done. What good does it do to keep him around see what the punishment is then fire him? It might have been less punishment if they had already parted ways. That would be stupid on a epic scale. I wouldn't be surprised though, it seems the whole thing is ran by morons anyway.
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I agree and the head moron is Mike Hamilton.
 
#47
#47
BigPapaVol said:
No. Offensive issues are PG and no post presence whatsoever. Defensive effort / focus and limited mention rebounding kill us because our offensive woes mean we can't let down in those areas.
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Yep. In our best line up, we put 2 good players and one serviceable on in Williams on the floor. We are at a disadvantage at the other two spots whenever we play anybody decent. We also do not play our best line up often enough, IMHO.

The guys that should be able to remedy part of that problem--Hall, Tatum, Golden, Maymon, McRae, and Wooldridge--either aren't playing or aren't performing when they do.
 
#48
#48
LawVol13 said:
Not really. His half-court offense is just garbage. His strength is transition offense. He does some nice things with that.
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This + 1. Pearl has not shown any ability to handle a half court offense successfully.

They have a few guys that can play transition just fine. They have one that can play both styles - Harris. You have a few others that are half courters only. The rest I have no idea why they were recruited or which they are best at. That is a recipe for what we got this year - no indentity and much frustration.
 
#49
#49
The problem with the Vols is they have NO shooters! You can't name one person on the roster that you CAN'T leave open on a jump shot. What we have are a bunch of streaky shooters. There's a reason every game we let the other team go on 12-2 runs they go cold and can't make open shots.
 
#50
#50
oklavol said:
I respect your information, but I hope you're out in left field here because I think this is a mistake. How many coaches did UT go through after DeVoe? This school Doug Dickey has not had a good history in picking basketball coaches and when we finally get one who turns the program around we get rid of him? Doesn't make sense to me.
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Fixed your post.
 
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