Texas A&M and Oklahoma Potentially Moving To SEC? (Rumor)

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Well the rumors are blazing again, all this expansion talk has had me glued to the T.V and searching the web like never before. For a while nobody thought the SEC would do anything expansion wise and the Pac-10 would do as they please. Well they were wrong the SEC is now trying and just might be exceding in leaving the Pac-10 dumbfounded.

Everyone knows now that the SEC and Texas A&M are talking and some believe that the SEC may steal A&M. That was a bombshell since everyone thought they were going to the Pac-10. Well prepare for an even bigger bombshell, Orangebloods.com — the Rivals site for the University of Texas — reports that Texas A&M is already on the verge of joining the SEC and Oklahoma might be next.

Rumors yes but most of what the Texas Rivals website has come true. If this is true the Pac-10 would be crushed losing a huge piece of the Big 12. Now as you may already know the Pac-10 commissioner has had talks with Oklahoma and Oklahoma State with the Sooners deciding their fate Wednesday.

Here is what you may not know the SEC commissioner was in College Station today meeting with the Oklahoma AD. Yesterday an unknown but high ranking source said the SEC would love to take Oklahoma or Texas with A&M. Does this mean Oklahoma said no or does this mean Slive was dealing in the dark the entire time and there is already a deal with OU, A&M and the SEC?

More news this morning from orangeblood.com

"According to sources, SEC commissioner Mike Slive and A&M are working feverishly to convince Oklahoma to join the SEC with the Aggies rather than follow Texas to the Pac-10.

There is speculation among a few schools in the Big 12 that if OU had to choose between the Pac-10 and SEC, it would choose the SEC. But sources close to OU say, up to this point, the Sooners have made a decision to go with Texas and not break up one of college football's most unique rivalries.

Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione was quoted in the Tulsa World last week saying the Sooners are committed to going where Texas goes.

Sources close to the SEC/Texas A&M talks say Oklahoma is still listening to proposals from the SEC. But the sources said the SEC is not interested in Oklahoma State."

More to come as this story unravels.

-Per BR
 
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I don't look for either team to join the SEC. A&M is doing its best to not appear a texas lapdog, but in the end I think politics will basically force them to go the the Sushi 16.
 
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I have a hard time imagining Oklahoma would split with both Texas and OK State.
 
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Orangebloods is reporting that the A&M board of regents are 6-3 in favor of the SEC. The 3 are opposed because they do not want to break the tradition and rivalry with Texas. The PAC 10 commissioner was scheduled to be in College Station today after being in Norman yesterday.

Slive is supposedly meeting with OU officials today. Orangebloods was saying that many in the conference believe that OU really would prefer the SEC because they feel its a better fit, but seem to be headed with Texas at this moment.

Also, the current Big 12 commish is trying like hell to save his butt. He is lobbying to the schools that if they stay, he can get them "SEC" money from a new TV deal, plus they can have their own networks if they so choose. This is all with staying at the remaining 10 institutions and not adding anyone else. It is said that the some of the schools prefer this....umm of course they do bc they will have not home otherwise. Anyways, it appears Texas is at least listening.

It seems like Slive has done one of two things. His pursuit will either 1) pull in A&M or A&M/OU or 2) slow the pace of the PAC 10 which has allowed for the possibility that the Big 12 may not disband.

I am guessing that if Slive can turn OU, then it will be more likely that the Big 12 stays together. I do not see Texas heading West with out both OU and A&M. And I do not see Texas having a change of heart in regards to the SEC.
 
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GoVols2003 said:
Orangebloods is reporting that the A&M board of regents are 6-3 in favor of the SEC. The 3 are opposed because they do not want to break the tradition and rivalry with Texas. The PAC 10 commissioner was scheduled to be in College Station today after being in Norman yesterday.

Slive is supposedly meeting with OU officials today. Orangebloods was saying that many in the conference believe that OU really would prefer the SEC because they feel its a better fit, but seem to be headed with Texas at this moment.

Also, the current Big 12 commish is trying like hell to save his butt. He is lobbying to the schools that if they stay, he can get them "SEC" money from a new TV deal, plus they can have their own networks if they so choose. This is all with staying at the remaining 10 institutions and not adding anyone else. It is said that the some of the schools prefer this....umm of course they do bc they will have not home otherwise. Anyways, it appears Texas is at least listening.

It seems like Slive has done one of two things. His pursuit will either 1) pull in A&M or A&M/OU or 2) slow the pace of the PAC 10 which has allowed for the possibility that the Big 12 may not disband.

I am guessing that if Slive can turn OU, then it will be more likely that the Big 12 stays together. I do not see Texas heading West with out both OU and A&M. And I do not see Texas having a change of heart in regards to the SEC.
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The Big 12 is dead, I don't see it being kept. Sure there are rumors going out today that the Big 12 Commish is promising "SEC type money" but its just to save face. I wouldn't bet on the Big 12 staying in existence.
 
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GoVols2003 said:
Orangebloods is reporting
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Orangebloods.com - New proposal to save Big 12 with 10 teams being considered by UT

Hold on folks. This is about to get interesting. The key in all of this is that Texas appears to be at least reconsidering its position on going to the Pac-10 and will listen to the Beebe proposal and to the idea of remaining in the Big 12.

Nothing is done. It is fluid. But the Beebe Plan to hold the Big 12 together is definitely in play right now.

As Orangebloods.com was told by a top source in the day's developments: "The winds to keep the Big 12 together with 10 teams are getting stronger."
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Burhead said:
The Big 12 is dead, I don't see it being kept. Sure there are rumors going out today that the Big 12 Commish is promising "SEC type money" but its just to save face. I wouldn't bet on the Big 12 staying in existence.
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I agree that it is most likely dead, but it seems more likely today that it could survive than it did yesterday. I just think that if OU stays on the PAC 10 train, then all will be dead, but if they jump ship, i think Texas will halt this thing.
 
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I don't why you guys would ever think the big12 would continue after last week. This thing is in shambles.
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I don't understand why so many people are just discounting the effects travel expenses will have on non-revenue sports...

The PAC-10 is not going to help that...
 
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If we took TAMU, Oklahoma, and VTech, would we then all be required to include some version of dark red in our uniforms?
TAMU, Oklahoma, VTech, USC, MSU, Ark, Bama
 
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PrimeTime said:
Non-revenue sports have absolutely nothing to do with this.
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They do for the departments paying the bills.

If the Big 12/10 can come up with an offer that is close to what the PAC 10 has, I guarantee those decision makers are going to start factoring in things like distance.
 
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Velo Vol said:
They do for the departments paying the bills.

If the Big 12/10 can come up with an offer that is close to what the PAC 10 has, I guarantee those decision makers are going to start factoring in things like distance.
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So you think Women's Volleyball expenses are gonna stop this?
 
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Velo Vol said:
They do for the departments paying the bills.

If the Big 12/10 can come up with an offer that is close to what the PAC 10 has, I guarantee those decision makers are going to start factoring in things like distance.
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Exactly... You already have some schools that are walking a tight rope between being in the red or in the black in "revenue" sports like football. Now add in the extra travel expenses of going from mid-Texas to Pullman or Corvalis...
 
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PrimeTime said:
So you think Women's Volleyball expenses are gonna stop this?
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I think that if you have two options (keeping the existing conference or making a new one that spans 1/2 the country) that are fairly close in potential revenue, that the distance of the latter will be a negative factor.

It's not just the team travel--also consider the fans.

How many away or visitor football tickets do you think OSU will sell at a game versus Baylor versus a game against Oregon State?
 
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Velo Vol said:
It's not just the team travel--also consider the fans.

How many away or visitor football tickets do you think OSU will sell at a game versus Baylor versus an away game at Oregon State?
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Another good point that has been brought up before...
 
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Velo Vol said:
Orangebloods.com - New proposal to save Big 12 with 10 teams being considered by UT
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Those guys are full of crap, if anything we get A&M, done deal, OU, and two others. The rest go to Pac 10, with Texas maybe looking at the Big 10 again. I think the other schools have realized they don't have to be Texas' biotch anymore and that Texas is the one who is scared now. A&M opens up a territory for constant SEC viewing, and A&M will benefit the most, bust so will the rest of the SEC. Can't see OU benefiting if they go the Pac 10.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Another good point that has been brought up before...
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I think the model they had wouldn't be so much different than the Big 12 South, with adding Arizona and ASU, plus one from out of their division. Only problem is the other division isn't great, USC is going to be bad for quite a few years since there are losing 30 scholarships, minimum of 8-10 years to recover, the other school is Oregon, but with the off field problems they have, they may not be as good either. But if Texas does go into the Pac 10 and they start throwing there weight around, hence the break up of the last two conferences they have been in, the Pac 10 will be dissolved in 12-15 years also. So to get back to my point, it really wouldn't be that much more traveling than the Big 12 south. It has more to do with Texas telling other schools what to do, i.e. Nebraska's reason for leaving in the first place.
 
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knucklehead_vol said:
I think the model they had wouldn't be so much different than the Big 12 South, with adding Arizona and ASU, plus one from out of their division. Only problem is the other division isn't great, USC is going to be bad for quite a few years since there are losing 30 scholarships, minimum of 8-10 years to recover, the other school is Oregon, but with the off field problems they have, they may not be as good either. But if Texas does go into the Pac 10 and they start throwing there weight around, hence the break up of the last two conferences they have been in, the Pac 10 will be dissolved in 12-15 years also. So to get back to my point, it really wouldn't be that much more traveling than the Big 12 south. It has more to do with Texas telling other schools what to do, i.e. Nebraska's reason for leaving in the first place.
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I am not talking about the Big 12 adding the Arizona schools. I saying that if TX, Okie and any of the other schools join the PAC-10. That will be a great inconvenience to schools in both conferences... not just a few.
 
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knucklehead_vol said:
Those guys are full of crap, if anything we get A&M, done deal, OU, and two others. The rest go to Pac 10, with Texas maybe looking at the Big 10 again. I think the other schools have realized they don't have to be Texas' biotch anymore and that Texas is the one who is scared now. A&M opens up a territory for constant SEC viewing, and A&M will benefit the most, bust so will the rest of the SEC. Can't see OU benefiting if they go the Pac 10.
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You think Slive swings OU?
 
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