Texas A&M and Oklahoma Potentially Moving To SEC? (Rumor)

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Rasputin_Vol said:
I am not talking about the Big 12 adding the Arizona schools. I saying that if TX, Okie and any of the other schools join the PAC-10. That will be a great inconvenience to schools in both conferences... not just a few.
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Neither am I, when the Big 12 schools go to the Pac 10 the schedule would remain just as it did in the Big 12 but add Arizona and ASU every other year, plus one from the the other division. Home and home, so that make it every other year they would have to travel.
 
#27
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Burhead said:
You think Slive swings OU?
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Yes. Unless they give into Texas. They were into the Pac 10 thing but I am not sure how much at this point. Slive can convince them they don't need Texas, remember, they are similar to us, not a lot of instate talent. They get so much from Texas and that is what worries them about leaving the Texas rivalry.
 
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#28
Also, the Orangebloods article says the Big 12 is trying to get current SEC money. I think if they add the teams they want and renegotiate the contracts, the SEC will give each team between 25-35 mil., depending on who it is. This is a reason I think Mizzou might be an option. So, whatever the Big 12 is negotiating, it doesn't make a difference, the SEC will, supposedly be able to offer quite a bit more.
 
#29
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Billy Liucci just tweeted that Pac-10 officials had meetings with the A&M staff this morning but has imposed no timetable to join. Said Ags will act quickly regardless. Also said expect a Monday or Tuesday announcement.
 
#30
#30
Luicci is not a fan of us joining the SEc. Just fyi.
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Burhead said:
Billy Liucci just tweeted that Pac-10 officials had meetings with the A&M staff this morning but has imposed no timetable to join. Said Ags will act quickly regardless. Also said expect a Monday or Tuesday announcement.
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Act quickly to join which conference?
 
#32
#32
I tell you what I've heard frm around town today, its pretty clear that a pissin contest between us and austin, is what this has evolved in to. I won't be shocked at all if and when we do split up, texas comes out looking like the greedy villian.
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#35
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All the talk of travel expenses is pretty much irrelevant concerning non-revenue sports or revenue sports for that matter. The additional travel expenses for all sports across the board would take a nominal amount out of the budget compared to what is gained.

If you are current big twelve program and you come to the SEC your TV money about doubles, which will more than offset the extra travel costs...and that's just from football. The extra money that the SEC schools will get from a new, wider ranging contract with TV affiliates will increase the bottom line and again offset new travel expenses.

Really, how much more does it cost to go to TX A&M that to Arkansas or LSU...not much

Right now the SEC is raking in17-20 mil/school...the big 12 about 10 mil/school

A new super conference in the right markets could easily gross 20-25 mil/school.

idk why people are getting hung up on travel cost....totally irrelevant
 
#36
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TXVOL07 said:
I tell you what I've heard frm around town today, its pretty clear that a pissin contest between us and austin, is what this has evolved in to. I won't be shocked at all if and when we do split up, texas comes out looking like the greedy villian.
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I'm already on board with that line of thinking. From all I've read Texas has really been the bully of the big 12 for some time. In fact, its one of the big reasons Nebraska left flat out.

Texas has the lion's share of revenue and refuses to share equally among the conference, they want their own network (which is estimated to generate 3-5 mil$ they wouldn't have to share). The conference office are in dallas, the next 5 years big twelve championships are scheduled to be in dallas...many schools there, esp in the north are not at all happy with Texas
 
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VolAlumNGatrland said:
Really, how much more does it cost to go to TX A&M that to Arkansas or LSU...not much
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Nobody can really disagree with that.

Now compare that with going from College Station to Pullman or Corvallis... not to mention, the PAC-10 has no tv contract right now are just making promises based off of nothing that they could get SEC type money in some future PAC-10 network...
 
#38
#38
If Oklahoma and Texas want to play each other so bad, and keep their rivalry going. Then they could schedule each other as one of their non-conference game's every year. Examples: Florida vs. Florida State, Georgia vs Georgia Tech, Notre Dame vs. USC. It's not that complex of a problem.
 
#39
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knucklehead_vol said:
Also, the Orangebloods article says the Big 12 is trying to get current SEC money. I think if they add the teams they want and renegotiate the contracts, the SEC will give each team between 25-35 mil., depending on who it is. This is a reason I think Mizzou might be an option. So, whatever the Big 12 is negotiating, it doesn't make a difference, the SEC will, supposedly be able to offer quite a bit more.
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Good lord we're nowhere near that money honestly

I mean I get you're saying "we can get them more money" but we more than likely couldnt get near those numbers until our ESPN contract expires and we renegotiated a new one at that time
 
#40
#40
The PAC wants to do their own TV deal, that is to say, if all goes according to plan. They are saying it would be up and running by 2012. IIRC, it took the Big Ten Network several years to get going, and there was no expansion involved. I guess one could say at least now there is a model, so maybe they can do it faster. I think they are at the same time, looking at FOX so they get prime time games or maybe it's all linked somehow.

Either way, it's not a lot of time to get it up and running. Certainly having the Southwest to sell the package to would be huge. The gamble Texas and the rest are taking is that the west coast fans will too buy the package. Interest will be high the first year maybe, even year two. BUT if Texas and OU end up dominating their new friends up north, if USC can't come to the rescue, Washington, Oregon, UCLA or Stanford will have to carry the weight. Maybe they will...but will the west coast watch it, more importantly, will they buy it?
 
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TrueOrange said:
Good lord we're nowhere near that money honestly

I mean I get you're saying "we can get them more money" but we more than likely couldnt get near those numbers until our ESPN contract expires and we renegotiated a new one at that time
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IDK about $25 million either, but once we add or lose a team in the conference, the contract can be renegotiated again... Doesn't look like we are far from that day approaching.
 
#42
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TheVolunteer said:
If Oklahoma and Texas want to play each other so bad, and keep their rivalry going. Then they could schedule each other as one of their non-conference game's every year. Examples: Florida vs. Florida State, Georgia vs Georgia Tech, Notre Dame vs. USC. It's not that complex of a problem.
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I think a lot of people keep forgetting that Texas & OU have only been in the same conference for 14 years. All previous meetings were non-conference games.
 
#44
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Burhead said:
Per Chip Brown A&M has turned down a Pac-10 invite.
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Either they've got a plan to salvage the Big XII or they're joining us in the SEC. I think the Big XII is pretty much dead and their commish is promising things that probably won't happen in order to keep his job. I guess we can welcome aTm to the SEC...
 
#45
#45
Their is a decent rivalry with Arkansas and Oklahoma, from that standpoint it makes sense. But only if Texas goes, that's the blood rivalry, obviously.

Of course Nebraska had a big rivalry with these teams too, and now they are gone.
 
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TrueOrange said:
Good lord we're nowhere near that money honestly

I mean I get you're saying "we can get them more money" but we more than likely couldnt get near those numbers until our ESPN contract expires and we renegotiated a new one at that time
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last season we were somewhere around $20 mil/ school....a new contract with more schools, more markets, wider national footprint could easily add another 5 million per
 
#48
#48
I have a feeling that OU is negotiating to bring OSU with them. If that were to happen along with A&M then I think we would take those three and Missouri and call it a day.

We would end up with 3 new states and about 6 major media markets.

Kansas City
St. Louis
Dallas
Oklahoma City
Houston
San Antonio

This would also dilute the power of Tejas since the recruits in those areas must consider playing in the Pansy conference or the Mega-SEC. I know that Tejas is powerful now, but I think that they would be hurt in the future. And can you remember what Tejas was like before Mac Brown? He is getting some age on him.
 
#49
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Chip Brown just tweeted that a Big 12 AD just confirmed that A&M turned down a bid to join PAC 10. Meeting was said to be very brief.
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