Texas A&M leaves Big 12 (officially)

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Vercingetorix said:
But I think there are two reasons they won't go there: A) it would require every school to give up one of their $3-4 million cupcake paydays every year, and B) the coaches will be adamantly opposed to adding an extra conference game and making a national championship run that much tougher. Why would Nick Saban agree to swap Georgia State out for a game against Georgia or South Carolina every year?
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Alabama wouldn't sacrifice Georgia State, we'd sacrifice Penn State. So would every other school.
 
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bamawriter said:
Alabama wouldn't sacrifice Georgia State, we'd sacrifice Penn State. So would every other school.
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Florida can't dump Florida State, Georgia can't dump Georgia Tech, and South Carolina can't dump Clemson. Nine conference games cuts into their budgets.

I hope you guys who are just assuming that the conference will do the right thing are right. I just haven't seen any reason to assume that will be the case.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Florida can't dump Florida State, Georgia can't dump Georgia Tech, and South Carolina can't dump Clemson. Nine conference games cuts into their budgets.

I hope you guys who are just assuming that the conference will do the right thing are right. I just haven't seen any reason to assume that will be the case.
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Agreed. It seems like most are far more concerned with money than everything. Some seem fine with sacrificing any shot at winning, too.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Agreed. It seems like most are far more concerned with money than everything. Some seem fine with sacrificing any shot at winning, too.
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We're already the toughest conference in the country (by far), and it hasn't curbed winning. UT's and UGA's current struggles have nothing to do with the makeup of the conference
 
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bamawriter said:
We're already the toughest conference in the country (by far), and it hasn't curbed winning. UT's and UGA's current struggles have nothing to do with the makeup of the conference
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I wasn't talking about UT/UGA, I'm talking about the idiots at A&M/Arkansas actually thinking they're going to accomplish anything in the SEC.

The Aggies are doing this for the money and because they have a tough time dealing with the fact that they aren't Texas.
 
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It's very conflicting. No doubt that it's going down. It's all of a matter of when the announcement is made. Could be tomorrow or Thursday or it could be early next week. Who knows?
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I don't see how the SEC can move to accept an odd-numbered team in a divisional format without some strong assurances that at least one more is about to follow. Right?

So where is it? The timeline isn't making sense thus far.
 
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i really don't understand why everyone is so bent out of shape.

if a&m sucks and they pose no threat, why is anyone worried about their inclusion?

if people are worried about keeping rivalries, there are numerous ways to do that.

i think you will see a 9 game conference schedule come out of this. if anything, it will kill non-conference scheduling except for those schools that already have a non-conference rival.

it would be interesting to see what would happen to the florida-georgia game because, they might lose a home game every two years.

everyone else in the league should be fine (in terms of getting 7 home games a year)
 
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99gator said:
i really don't understand why everyone is so bent out of shape.

if a&m sucks and they pose no threat, why is anyone worried about their inclusion?

if people are worried about keeping rivalries, there are numerous ways to do that.

i think you will see a 9 game conference schedule come out of this. if anything, it will kill non-conference scheduling except for those schools that already have a non-conference rival.

it would be interesting to see what would happen to the florida-georgia game because, they might lose a home game every two years.

everyone else in the league should be fine (in terms of getting 7 home games a year)
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But wah wah wah uneven home conference games is unfair. /*****ing
 
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99gator said:
i really don't understand why everyone is so bent out of shape.

if a&m sucks and they pose no threat, why is anyone worried about their inclusion?

if people are worried about keeping rivalries, there are numerous ways to do that.

i think you will see a 9 game conference schedule come out of this. if anything, it will kill non-conference scheduling except for those schools that already have a non-conference rival.

it would be interesting to see what would happen to the florida-georgia game because, they might lose a home game every two years.

everyone else in the league should be fine (in terms of getting 7 home games a year)
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You, like everyone else, are just making an assumption based on what you think ought to happen rather than anything we've heard from the conference.

And when the league inevitable expands to 16 teams, a 9-game schedule doesn't solve the problem anymore anyway.

It's perfectly reasonable for fans to think this is annoying. Particularly when it's all to add a team as uninteresting as Texas A&M.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
You, like everyone else, are just making an assumption based on what you think ought to happen rather than anything we've heard from the conference.

And when the league inevitable expands to 16 teams, a 9-game schedule doesn't solve the problem anymore anyway.

It's perfectly reasonable for fans to think this is annoying. Particularly when it's all to add a team as uninteresting as Texas A&M.
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What exactly have you heard? I'll take a link.
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Vercingetorix said:
You, like everyone else, are just making an assumption based on what you think ought to happen rather than anything we've heard from the conference.

And when the league inevitable expands to 16 teams, a 9-game schedule doesn't solve the problem anymore anyway.

It's perfectly reasonable for fans to think this is annoying. Particularly when it's all to add a team as uninteresting as Texas A&M.
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i wouldn't call it an assumption as much as it is a guess. i don't necessarily think it's what should happen either.

if you don't like expansion, that's fine. i get it and that's your opinion.

but, there are things that can be done to preserve rivalries.

in addition, we all need to break out our history books regarding league play.

florida hardly ever played mississippi, tennessee, or alabama before 1992. so, if a league member doesn't play another league member but twice every twelve years or so......that's not breaking new ground.

i believe the real angst some of you have (but won't admit it) is that there may be more competitors being added to the league that would threaten to make life a lot more difficult for tennessee.
 
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99gator said:
i wouldn't call it an assumption as much as it is a guess. i don't necessarily think it's what should happen either.

if you don't like expansion, that's fine. i get it and that's your opinion.

but, there are things that can be done to preserve rivalries.

in addition, we all need to break out our history books regarding league play.

florida hardly ever played mississippi, tennessee, or alabama before 1992. so, if a league member doesn't play another league member but twice every twelve years or so......that's not breaking new ground.

i believe the real angst some of you have (but won't admit it) is that there may be more competitors being added to the league that would threaten to make life a lot more difficult for tennessee.
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Why would aTm scare anyone in the SEC? They are typically a mediocre team in what has tradionally been a top-heavy conference that's isn't on par with the SEC. If they can't really even win the the Big XII, why would we be afraid of them winning in a tougher league.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
Why would aTm scare anyone in the SEC? They are typically a mediocre team in what has tradionally been a top-heavy conference that's isn't on par with the SEC. If they can't really even win the the Big XII, why would we be afraid of them winning in a tougher league.
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They've done more than Tennessee in the past several years.

With that, BleedOrange goes to ignore, as he is a troll.
 
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I see a lot of posts related to not liking change. Change will happen and either the SEC puts itself in a position to pick it's prefered partners or we eat table scraps after other conferences initiate the change. Likely either the cross divisional rival games change or in state rival games that are OOC leave some teams with heavy schedules. Either way someone will be unhappy somewhere. You could actually add some of those in state rivalries to get to 16 and keep the cross divisional rivalries without hurting the schedule but apparently FL and SC don't want that either, presumably because of recruiting. There will be a lot of horse trading between here and 16 and with any real change many people will feel cheated in some way large or small.

IMO the end game is an expanded season and a playoff, not dissimilar from the NFL. More FB for us, more revenue for them.
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Why would aTm scare anyone in the SEC? They are typically a mediocre team in what has tradionally been a top-heavy conference that's isn't on par with the SEC. If they can't really even win the the Big XII, why would we be afraid of them winning in a tougher league.
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It's a fair question given how dreadful we've been during the latter R.C. Slocum years and the Coach Fran disaster. But Mike Sherman returns for his 4th season as head coach...each year better than the last. Somewhat ironic, but last year's Big 12 Championship game pitted Nebraska vs. Oklahoma. A&M beat both of them.

I actually like to hear folks state opinions similar as your own. I think we'll be better...but I would rather we surprise folks than meet expectations.
 
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