Texas fires Chris Beard

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esarmstrong said:
Look at Nebraska, too. A program that fired a coach in Frank Solich because he was winning, just not winning enough. They have yet to restore themselves to relevance in football and it is looking more and more like they may never come back. Nebraska also reminds me of the Minnesota Gophers in many ways. They were a national power in football until the early 1960's and then they went the way of the Dodo, never to seen or heard from again.
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Nebraska has a model that they have to fit to win…option football. And I don’t think it’s a coincidence that they were dominant at a time when steroid use was at its highest in American sports. Walk-on linemen growing into studs who dominate future NFL players was extremely suspicious. Especially when many of them didn’t even go to the NFL themselves.

They had a blueprint and part of that blueprint may not be possible anymore. And since they’re in a recruiting wasteland, operating outside of that blueprint is almost impossible. Also, leaving the Big 12 and the connections to Texas recruiting was dumb.
 
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esarmstrong said:
Look at Nebraska, too. A program that fired a coach in Frank Solich because he was winning, just not winning enough. They have yet to restore themselves to relevance in football and it is looking more and more like they may never come back. Nebraska also reminds me of the Minnesota Gophers in many ways. They were a national power in football until the early 1960's and then they went the way of the Dodo, never to seen or heard from again.
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sounds vaguely familiar. His name started with a P, trying to remember the rest...................
 
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GreveHaller said:
sounds vaguely familiar. His name started with a P, trying to remember the rest...................
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Doesn’t sound familiar at all. Solich never had a losing season and was coming off of a 9-3 year when he was fired. The guy that you’re referencing was in the midst of another losing season, his second in the past four years.
 
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Okie said:
If biting were a crime when I was a kid, I would be in for life.

It will be interesting how this plays out, though. His attorney says that they will sue because the "investigation" that the school did never talked to Beard or his fiancé, and that the charges are going to be dropped soon. I don't remember the details, but Mike Leach sued Texas Tech when they fired him and the courts ruled that he couldn't sue the university. Either way, Beard is out of a job, probably pretty mad at the fiancé, too.
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His contract states the he can be “fired for cause” if simply CHARGED with a felony. The outcome has nothing to do with it. I could see them floating another year’s salary to go away but they have some stout legal minds on retainer. Fun for the rest of us in any case.
 
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Boston Vol said:
Doesn’t sound familiar at all. Solich never had a losing season and was coming off of a 9-3 year when he was fired. The guy that you’re referencing was in the midst of another losing season, his second in the past four years.
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coming off a season going to the SECCG. your "another losing season" started when the AD's knee jerked. You sure are a big near sighted in your view. BTW, how did that firing work out?
 
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GreveHaller said:
coming off a season going to the SECCG. your "another losing season" started when the AD's knee jerked. You sure are a big near sighted in your view. BTW, how did that firing work out?
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Worked out fine. He was rightfully held responsible for the results that he was producing.
 
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GreveHaller said:
Lane Kiffin
Derek Dooley
Butch Jones
Jeremy Pruitt

12 seasons
73-75

If that's you're view of "work out fine" you have some serious mental problems
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Fulmer was held responsible for the results that he produced. Just because the subsequent hires didn’t work out, doesn’t mean it was a mistake to fire him. It means that mistakes were made in who was hired to replace him.
 
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The game had passed Fulmer by. He didn't have an answer to Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, and even Mark Richt was giving him fits.
 
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walkenvol said:
That proven guilt doesn’t matter any longer in this country. Only matters that you were accused
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No - what matters is what's in his contract.

His contract stipulates that he can be fired if charged with a felony or committed other behavior unbecoming of his position or that reflected poorly on the university.
 
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esarmstrong said:
Look at Nebraska, too. A program that fired a coach in Frank Solich because he was winning, just not winning enough. They have yet to restore themselves to relevance in football and it is looking more and more like they may never come back. Nebraska also reminds me of the Minnesota Gophers in many ways. They were a national power in football until the early 1960's and then they went the way of the Dodo, never to seen or heard from again.
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Nebraska managed to do it twice. Pelini never had a losing season either. But, he also never lost less than than 3 or more than 4.
 
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GregAmsler said:
Nebraska has a model that they have to fit to win…option football. And I don’t think it’s a coincidence that they were dominant at a time when steroid use was at its highest in American sports. Walk-on linemen growing into studs who dominate future NFL players was extremely suspicious. Especially when many of them didn’t even go to the NFL themselves.

They had a blueprint and part of that blueprint may not be possible anymore. And since they’re in a recruiting wasteland, operating outside of that blueprint is almost impossible. Also, leaving the Big 12 and the connections to Texas recruiting was dumb.
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Yeah those "corn fed" lineman at Nebraska were definitely massive in those Tom Osburne days.
 
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GregAmsler said:
Nebraska has a model that they have to fit to win…option football. And I don’t think it’s a coincidence that they were dominant at a time when steroid use was at its highest in American sports. Walk-on linemen growing into studs who dominate future NFL players was extremely suspicious. Especially when many of them didn’t even go to the NFL themselves.

They had a blueprint and part of that blueprint may not be possible anymore. And since they’re in a recruiting wasteland, operating outside of that blueprint is almost impossible. Also, leaving the Big 12 and the connections to Texas recruiting was dumb.
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I was surprised when I looked this up myself a while ago, but in their glory days Nebraska actually nowhere near as many guys from Texas as you'd think. It wasn't like they had a super strong pipeline into the state and got a ton of players from there. They recruited nationally, plus I think got lucky because some of their top players (Scott Frost, Grant Wistrom, Ahman Green, etc.) actually came from the recruiting wasteland that surrounds the school.

IMO, Nebraska only seems to be successful when they're doing something unconventional. It is hard for them to compete against the top programs in the country toe-to-toe. The triple option offense they ran, the S&C/steroids program they had, the walk-on program they had were all unconventional, outside the box things they were doing. What is the 2023 equivalent of those things? I'm not sure.
 
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GregAmsler said:
Nebraska has a model that they have to fit to win…option football. And I don’t think it’s a coincidence that they were dominant at a time when steroid use was at its highest in American sports. Walk-on linemen growing into studs who dominate future NFL players was extremely suspicious. Especially when many of them didn’t even go to the NFL themselves.

They had a blueprint and part of that blueprint may not be possible anymore. And since they’re in a recruiting wasteland, operating outside of that blueprint is almost impossible. Also, leaving the Big 12 and the connections to Texas recruiting was dumb.
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These were all very good points about steroid abuse, and how it's tacit approval benefitted Nebraska football in the 80's and 90's. I would also point out how the game was officiated back then worked to their advantage as well. Chop blocking and leg whipping were blocking techniques that were legal until 1991 ... and the rules which banned them, didn't become a point of emphasis for enforcement until 2000. Leonard Little and Shaun Ellis were chop blocked all night long in the '98 Orange Bowl. If I remember correctly, Nebraska was called for it once.
 
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